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  posted on 12/11/2007 at 02:50 PM
This morning I was listening to the MJ from the Ludlow Garage gig and got to wondering. Is there a generally-accepted best Duane-era version? What's your favorite? If you say why, you get extra points. And if you claim it's the two-hour version from 6/26/71, you deserve to be banished to a lifetime of listening to Britney Spears with the volume set to 11 -- for not sharing.

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  posted on 12/11/2007 at 02:51 PM
my fav is the one on the atlanta international pop festival. just love that one
 

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  posted on 12/11/2007 at 03:01 PM
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my fav is the one on the atlanta international pop festival. just love that one


Disc 2 with the smoking bass solo. Yep, that's a dandy.

 

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  posted on 12/11/2007 at 03:13 PM
I'm going to pick the version I have heard the most from "Eat A Peach". The pub I once hung out in (Billies 1890, mid 80's) had "EAP" on the juke box. I would drive people crazy by constantly playing "Mountain Jam" all 33 minutes of it.

 

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  posted on 12/11/2007 at 03:16 PM
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I'm going to pick the version I have heard the most from "Eat A Peach". The pub I once hung out in (Billies 1890, mid 80's) had "EAP" on the juke box. I would drive people crazy by constantly playing "Mountain Jam" all 33 minutes of it.

lol, i have done that with m.j. and liz reed. i have seen more than one person leave. what also work's is the live zep.......

 

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  posted on 12/11/2007 at 03:19 PM
Maybe because it was burned into my brain all those years before I discovered trading shows and Instant Lives, but the EAP version is my favorite.

The music coming out of the drum/bass solos is about the most beautiful I've ever heard....

 
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  posted on 12/11/2007 at 03:23 PM
Of the recent versions with Derek and Warren I like the Gilford NH 06 Instant Live version. gret guitar and not too much JaBuMa

 

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  posted on 12/11/2007 at 03:37 PM
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I'm going to pick the version I have heard the most from "Eat A Peach". The pub I once hung out in (Billies 1890, mid 80's) had "EAP" on the juke box. I would drive people crazy by constantly playing "Mountain Jam" all 33 minutes of it.



Ha I used to do that all of the time. $2 for 5 plays was worth it.

I don't know if I can pick one, it's such a mammoth song that each version has it's own unique vibe, goes into a different place. I am a big fan of the Ludlow version, it's so raw and Berry's solo is the most melodic thing I have ever heard from a bass. Same goes for the drum solo. I am not a big fan of JaBuMa of late, I feel like their solos are kind aimless, but I am a big fan of those drum solos from 69-71. They are quite lyrical themselves, it's amazing the interplay between Butch and Jaimoe, very melodic at times. What amazes me is how far this piece had come since the February Fillmore show, which never stood out in my mind. Still great music, but definitely a diamond in the rough. Atlanta Pop versions never stood out for me, though. The Nassau '73 version with Chuck is pretty amazing, especially Chuck's riffing on Herbie Hancock's "Fat Mama." Still, without the guitar harmony it feels like it is missing something, comparatively speaking. The versions from the Fox are mighty pretty, too.

The Eat A Peach version, however, I probably prefer to all others. It just never misses. Dickey's solo builds perfectly, Gregg's organ swells perfectly, the drum and bass solos transition beautifully, Duane's slide take on "Third Stone From the Sun" is absolutely beautiful, almost it's own song. And of course, there's "Will the Circle be Unbroken" which is..well..perfect. The whole damned thing is perfect. Having Tom Dowd capture it probably doesn't hurt it either.

So I guess Eat A Peach version gets my vote, with Ludlow a very close 2nd.

 

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  posted on 12/11/2007 at 05:46 PM
For me the "Eat A Peach" version is the
Holy Grail of MJ's!

 

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  posted on 12/11/2007 at 06:57 PM
EAP Version, is the standard for that the rest are just attempting, The part after the drum/bass solo may be best ten minutes of all music to my ears holy cow when it slows alittle I stop like the guy in Seinfeld when he hears desperado

 

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  posted on 12/12/2007 at 02:02 AM
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Maybe because it was burned into my brain all those years before I discovered trading shows and Instant Lives, but the EAP version is my favorite.

The music coming out of the drum/bass solos is about the most beautiful I've ever heard....


That's my favorite part also, to me it just screams Allman Brothers!

 

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  posted on 12/12/2007 at 02:23 AM

The last time I saw Duane Allman play was 7-17-71. There were two shows that day, one in the afternoon and one that night at the Atlanta Municipal Auditorium.

I was there for both.

After the matinee show, I swore that the Mountain Jam was the best I ever heard. The evening show was better.

Sorry, but neither one made it onto a tradable tape. They exist only in my memory and in those of my friends who were there ...




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  posted on 12/12/2007 at 06:02 AM
Definatley hard to pick one- I prefer the Ludlow Garage version ever so slightly over the EAP version. It is always cued up in my changer.

Of the new era, I loved the 3/25/06 version from the Beacon- mainly because I was there... and secondly because of what Butch had to say about it after the fact. This is a portion of his interview with Mike Greenhaus before this past years run (2007), discussing the previous (2006) run...


Butch Trucks: Beacon Bound
Mike Greenhaus
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MG- How did last year’s Beacon run compare with your previous residencies?

BT- I’ll also say that I have never been through an experience like last year. You play a group of shows and, normally, out of 10 or 12 shows maybe 3 or 4 click and just really hit the note---everybody is right there. And the rest of them are good, and you can’t just really nail it. Last year we had 15 in a row, I’m talking every single one of them. For instance, one night we started with “Mountain Jam.” It was in such a powerful pocket that I was just playing my body was just doing it and I wasn’t thinking at all. And it was just right in the pocket. We finished a song, and I cut off the timpani and I just broke down and started crying, it was so powerful. And, I sat down my drum, with tears running down my cheeks, and I looked up at Marc [Quinones] and said, “Now what the **** do we do?” It was the first song of the night. And he said, “I guess we go home.” And it was like that all 15 shows. Every single night was just, just hitting the note. I’ve never ever had a musical experience like that in my life.

The fact of the matter is the way things are it is very, very seldom that you can get a bunch of shows in a row that click. No matter what you do, if you’re a painter, you can’t go in every day and paint and really get it no matter what you do. Some days it just comes easy and you don’t have to try, and other days you can’t hit a bull in the butt with a bass fiddle, and it’s just human nature. I don’t expect to do 15 shows in a row like last year, but who knows, it would be nice. Last year I was almost scared to get onstage because I thought we wouldn’t be able to do it again.

 

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  posted on 12/12/2007 at 08:48 AM
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Yeah, that's how I feel about it even though Butch posted years ago that there were better versions of it the EAP version is the one that I listened to the most and frankly all I need to listen to. The re-mastered cds are great considering I listened to MJ on turntables for years.

 

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  posted on 12/12/2007 at 10:33 PM
eap. a friend of mine once described it as 'a symphony'. i tell my mom that listening to mountain jam is for me what listening to a mozart concerto is to her. there are other great versions, but they don't approach perfection quite like this one does. just hearing those opening notes makes my heart beat a little faster. mountain jam always sounds fresh. only truly great music can do that.
 

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  posted on 12/13/2007 at 06:15 AM
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Sorry, but neither one made it onto a tradable tape. They exist only in my memory and in those of my friends who were there ...

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Maybe you could hum a few bars for us??

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  posted on 12/13/2007 at 06:22 AM
EAP for me.
Especially when Duane counts the band back in after Berry's solo.

On the remastered Fillmore Concerts version, at the end, after Duane introduces the band members, someone says "Remember Elivs / Elvin"??

Was that a reference to Elvin Bishop or The King? Anyone know what or why?

 

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  posted on 12/13/2007 at 11:22 AM
The MJ from EAP set the bar....and it seems to me none have quite reached that mark.
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  posted on 12/13/2007 at 11:23 AM
I'd have to say EAP too, or, more accurately, the version from the Deluxe Edition of LAFE. That way, I can listen to the uninterrupted Whipping Post > Mtn Jam that is about an hour long...


"BERRY OAKLEY, Dickey Betts, Butch Trucks, Jai Johanny Johanson, Gregg Allman, I'm Duane Allman, thank you"


Besides that one, Ludlow is great too (I haven't had a chance to get the Atl Pop discs yet)


As far as recent ones go, every single version I have seen live has been outstanding (10/02/05 Charlotte, 3/18/06 Beacon, 3/24/07 Beacon, Wanee 07 - sandwich, and 8/11/07 Raleigh). To me, it's the song that absolutely no one can pull off live like the Allman Brothers Band - when those twin guitars play the lead melody so loud that your ears hurt, and the drums and bass are just pounding away at your chest, you know that there's no where else you could possibly be in the world than at an Allman Brothers concert. I love that feeling...

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  posted on 12/14/2007 at 07:12 AM
" the song that absolutely no one can pull off live like the Allman Brothers Band - when those twin guitars play the lead melody so loud that your ears hurt, and the drums and bass are just pounding away at your chest, you know that there's no where else you could possibly be in the world than at an Almman Brothers concert. I love that feeling."

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  posted on 1/3/2008 at 06:51 AM
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i too enjoy the one from disc 2 of the atlanta pops festival

 





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  posted on 1/3/2008 at 07:03 AM
Looks like I'm stuck with Brittney..nothing will ever compare to 6/26/71.


But for recorded versions...EAP....no question

 

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  posted on 1/3/2008 at 07:46 AM
Fillmore East Or Ludlow Garage

But It will probably change later today.

 

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  posted on 1/3/2008 at 11:24 AM
This is kind of like looking at a display case of precious jewels and deciding which is the most brilliant example of the art. They are all "best" in their own light.
So, I'll say: The next time they play it.

 

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  posted on 1/3/2008 at 11:27 AM
I have to agree, the EAP version set the standard for me. It just....flows....for lack of a better description.

 

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