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  posted on 2/12/2018 at 08:49 PM
Listened to Seve Turns for the first time tonight.

It was fine, not as good as I thought itíd be. The only one that really caught me was Gamblerís Roll. Iíd heard it live before but didnít realize where it came from. I could really take or leave the rest.

Maybe itíd be different if that was the Ďcomebackí album for me, but BWIAB was the first Allmans I heard in my life, then I worked way back, and never got to Seven Turns until some 20+ years down the road. BWIAB has been in my regular rotation for all that time. Not sure how many more spins Iíll give Seven Turns.

Anyway, I guess this post doesnít really have a point.

 
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  posted on 2/12/2018 at 09:31 PM
Then I says to myself, what the hell, letís try another random one of a guy really I like but somehow never listened to the album.

Clapton ó Behind The Sun.

Surprising the hell out of me. I really. Really. Like it. (Canít say the same about August, which I gave a first spin last summer and couldnít stand it.)

 

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  posted on 2/12/2018 at 10:06 PM
Give 7 Turns some time. It is not a groundbreaking release per se but more like an embrace from an old pal. The music feels good.

If you REALLY want to appreciate it, mind you, listen to the 2 Arista albums and THEN put on 7 Turns.

 

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  posted on 2/13/2018 at 07:26 AM
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If you REALLY want to appreciate it, mind you, listen to the 2 Arista albums and THEN put on 7 Turns.


HA!! Good one!

Its been awhile since I listened to the whole thing, maybe I will get it out this week. Its always nice to revisit a recording you have not listened to in some time. You might hear it with different ears, a new appreciation and perspective. This is the one that REALLY got me into the world of the ABB.
I was always just familiar with the songs they played on FM, but this kicked the door down to discovery. I think I could tell you about where I was and what I was doing when I heard it almost 28yrs ago.

I enjoy the whole recording for the most part. True Gravity never really clicker with me though.
"It Ain't Over Yet" is one of my favs from that one. Nice vocal performance from Gregg.

https://youtu.be/UcGrzbxRaxs

 

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  posted on 2/13/2018 at 07:38 AM
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Then I says to myself, what the hell, letís try another random one of a guy really I like but somehow never listened to the album.

Clapton ó Behind The Sun.

Surprising the hell out of me. I really. Really. Like it. (Canít say the same about August, which I gave a first spin last summer and couldnít stand it.)


Both of those are okay. I think they kinda suffer through time with the slick 80's production and the Phil Collins influence. It would be nice to hear a more raw production with both of those, less keyboards.


Forever Man with Steve Winwood live is cool.
https://youtu.be/TOK7alO6hNY


A couple of songs I like form August is Tearing Us Apart and Miss You. Tearing Us has some nice Guitar work. Both I would like to hear a little stripped . In my head I hear a slow burning blues version of Miss You with EC killing it.

 

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  posted on 2/13/2018 at 08:55 AM
I haven't spun Seven Turns in a while, but I also got into the band during the Where It All Begins period and worked my way back. I quite like most of Seven Turns, it's pretty remarkable it came out and the band still played cuts off of it up until the end. I bet the album grows on you after a while, give it a few more spins.

"Seven Turns" itself is a great tune, and pretty unlike anything Dickey had written. Loved hearing Oteil sing it. "Low Down Dirty Mean" is my favorite tune on the album, one of the dirtiest blues tunes the Allmans had done and they tore than song up on stage. Really loved hearing Derek play it when they dusted it off. I always really liked "Let Me Ride" - and it was interesting to hear that it started as more of a country folk song. "Gambler's Roll" is pretty epic, but never grabbed me. "True Gravity" is fine, but a little too fusion for my tastes. "It Ain't Over" and "Shine It On" both sound like they could have been on a Steve Windwood 1980s album - they're enjoyable and solid, but not necessarily pure Allman Brothers songs.

"Loaded Dice" is kind of silly song, and not sure why they would have 2 gambling songs - it's kind of a lazy metaphor. Speaking of lazy, "Good Clean Fun" is one of the dumbest Allman Brothers songs. Never understood why they shined a spot light on it and made it the single.

 

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  posted on 2/13/2018 at 09:23 AM
I feel like Seven Turns gets overlooked a lot because of the expectations people had for it when was released as the "come back" album and because looking back over all the band has done since the expectation placed on it as the album that started the run through the end.

I agree that I feel like the Warren/Woody lineup was really hitting their stride and had fully found their own identity on BWIAB. I do tend to think that is a better album the Seven Turns. (Hope they release the Ricking Horse outtake someday even as incomplete as it may be!)

Still, I love Seven Turns. Favorites include: Let Me Ride, Low Down Dirty & Mean, Gamblers Roll, Shine It On, It Ain't Over Yet and True Gravity. I like and don't mind Seven Turns, Good Clean Fun (better lyrics would help) and Loaded Dice but the other songs are the ones I listen to frequently.

It Ain't Over Yet is a very underrated and overlooked song imo. True Gravity is also fantastic especially Johnny Neel's piano.

First ABB show was Jones Beach from that tour. Miss those days.

 

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  posted on 2/13/2018 at 09:31 AM
It's not AFE but it's still a good and fun listen. After all, it's the ABB!

Shine It On is my favorite. For a while, that always got cranked Friday mornings on the way to work.

 

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  posted on 2/13/2018 at 10:14 AM
Good for you for going back and giving this album a full spin.

Admittedly, I still haven't listened to the Arista albums all the way thru --- and not feeling compelled to do so in any way just yet.

I think Seven Turns was perfect in the way it bridged 2 competing eras of the band --- kind of closing the door on the more commercial sounds of the 80's and opening and returning it to the edgier, more soulful and exploratory sounds of what would follow.

 

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  posted on 2/13/2018 at 05:00 PM
I really enjoyed Seven Turns when it came out and I think it has stood the test of time to me. The title track is a classic Allman country song (MTV Unplugged version even better). True Gravity is a great instrumental that was a monster live.. I too have always liked Shine It On. It Ain't Over Yet is a great laid back tune that sounds like it would have it in next to Come & Go Blues (not quite the caliber but really good). Good Clean Fun is a crisp rocker that kicked in the door as the first radio song after those two tepid Arista records 9 years before (it's not their finest hour in the lyric dept but I've always liked it including Johnny Neels piano and harp on that one).

Give it another listen is my advice.

 

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  posted on 2/13/2018 at 11:28 PM
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I haven't spun Seven Turns in a while, but I also got into the band during the Where It All Begins period and worked my way back. I quite like most of Seven Turns, it's pretty remarkable it came out and the band still played cuts off of it up until the end. I bet the album grows on you after a while, give it a few more spins.


I had not listened in a while either....I go back to '72 and "worked my way up" to Seven Turns....

I remember rushing out to buy this and thinking after about two weeks of constant play that the record was just OK. A few good tunes, ( Good Clean Fun, Low down dirty mean & Shine it on ) a couple of obligatory pieces ( True Gravity & Gambler's Roll ) and some filler; it wasn't until JN left and the Brothers released "Shades of two Worlds" that I sat up and paid attention.

 

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