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  posted on 7/31/2014 at 01:02 AM
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  posted on 7/31/2014 at 05:37 PM
Guns don't kill people. Attorneys for gun owners kill people.
 

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  posted on 7/31/2014 at 06:12 PM
Not to nitpick, but it's the ammo that actually kills you.
 

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  posted on 7/31/2014 at 07:04 PM
While the gun control liberals scream for more gun control legislation, the murders in Chicago continue as well as many other areas.
Chicago already some of the toughest gun control legislation in the country. Not working very well are they?

When the left hollers for more, ask them to show you their legislation. Generally it doesn’t exist. Read the few that do. Their bills are designed to take guns away from law abiding citizens who have a constitutional right to bear arms.

If the liberals want to change The Constitution; go for it. Good luck.

When a criminal breaks into your house to rob you and rape your daughter, what are you lefties going to do, tell him the gun in his hand is illegal and you are going to call the police?
You will be dead before the 911 operator answers the phone (if they do at all).
Trust me, if you come into my house with ill intent I will blow your head clean off.

Ever notice that those screaming the loudest for more gun control laws are they themselves surrounded by security personnel carrying automatic weapons?



 

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  posted on 8/1/2014 at 05:09 PM
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While the gun control liberals scream for more gun control legislation, the murders in Chicago continue as well as many other areas.
Chicago already some of the toughest gun control legislation in the country. Not working very well are they?


Funny that with all of the right wing talk about crime in Chicago, you would think that it would be the most dangerous city in the country, yet the statistics don't even put it in even the top 25 most dangerous cities in America.

http://www.businessinsider.com/most-dangerous-cities-in-america-2013-6#

I wonder how many of the actual most dangerous cities in the country have strict gun control laws?

 

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While the gun control liberals scream for more gun control legislation, the murders in Chicago continue as well as many other areas.
Chicago already some of the toughest gun control legislation in the country. Not working very well are they?


Right! More guns in Chicago! More guns in Chicago! We want more guns in Chicago!

 

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  posted on 8/2/2014 at 12:40 PM
When one gun-toting Chicago thug shoots another gun-toting Chicago thug the city just got safer.
 

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Unless you get caught in the crossfire.

 

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  posted on 8/2/2014 at 03:06 PM
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While the gun control liberals scream for more gun control legislation, the murders in Chicago continue as well as many other areas.
Chicago already some of the toughest gun control legislation in the country. Not working very well are they?


Right! More guns in Chicago! More guns in Chicago! We want more guns in Chicago!

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Sarcasm?

Typical response from the left-wingers.

You completely missed the point.
Strict gun control laws do nothing to prevent or even reduce crime. They do however result in more innocent people getting killed or maimed.



 

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Strict gun control laws do nothing to prevent or even reduce crime. They do however result in more innocent people getting killed or maimed.



Nothing?

Do you also contend that strict murder laws do nothing to prevent murder?

 

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Strict gun control laws do nothing to prevent or even reduce crime. They do however result in more innocent people getting killed or maimed.



Nothing?

Do you also contend that strict murder laws do nothing to prevent murder?

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I do have a problem with murder as in Holder and Obama running guns to Mexican drug cartels which resulted in hundreds of murders including U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.



 

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Strict gun control laws do nothing to prevent or even reduce crime. They do however result in more innocent people getting killed or maimed.



Nothing?

Do you also contend that strict murder laws do nothing to prevent murder?

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I do have a problem with murder as in Holder and Obama running guns to Mexican drug cartels which resulted in hundreds of murders including U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.



Obama found out about that when he saw it on the news.

It was all Bush's fault. You didn't know?

 

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[Edited on 8/3/2014 by BillyBlastoff]

 

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  posted on 8/3/2014 at 01:40 PM
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Strict gun control laws do nothing to prevent or even reduce crime. They do however result in more innocent people getting killed or maimed.


You don't say?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-boehlert/why-fox-news-lost-interes_b_455 5588.html


Why Fox News Lost Interest in Chicago Murders (Hint: Crime Rate Is Way Down)

Someone alert Bill O'Reilly, Matt Drudge, Michelle Malkin and the rest of the right-wing media team that spent last year alternately belittling and hysterically hyping Chicago crime: Their argument just fell apart.

Conservatives, led by O'Reilly, Drudge, and Malkin, callously used Chicago crime to attack President Obama and push back against his support for stronger gun laws. Pointing out that Obama's hometown is Chicago and his former chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, is the city's mayor, they frequently highlighted the fact that the city struggled with well-publicized gang shootings despite some of the tightest laws in the country. The right tagged Chicago as a gun control test case and deemed it a miserable failure. (Fox contributor Katie Pavlich: "Slaughter in Gun Control Chicago")

O'Reilly has alternately compared Chicago's murder rate to "many Holocausts," and "Afghanistan." The Drudge Report linked to 134 "CHICAGOLAND" crime headlines last year, all meant to convey the image of a lawless city on the verge of bloody collapse. And Malkin let loose with her usual invective, denouncing Chicago as one of many Democratic-run "hellholes"; urban centers teeming with "juvenile delinquency, organized crime, ruinous government dependency, corruption and out-of-control spending."

Conservative conspiracists such as Rush Limbaugh even claimed Democratic politicians want the city's murder rate to remain high so they can use the killings to advocate for stronger gun laws. It's all part of a larger conservative media movement to portray Obama's former hometown as being driven under by murder and violence. They seem to want the city to become a symbol of doom and "urban decay," just as conservative pundits have enjoyed mocking Detroit's tough times.

It was also part of a larger, racially-tinged and hollow attempt in the wake of the Trayvon Martin trial to accuse Obama of ignoring crime, which according to the conservative media telling is raging out of control. (It's not; it remains on a steady decline.)

But suddenly the Chicago taunts have gone quiet. Suddenly the claims that strict gun laws are useless and that Democratic mayors oversee killings zones have disappeared. No more "CHICAGO LAND" links or cries of "Holocaust," and Malkin has for now stopped referring to Chicago as "America's Bloody City."

Why? Because even world-class misinformers like those would have a tough time making a case against "Obama's Chicago," given the fact that the murder rate there last year fell to its lowest level since Lyndon Johnson was president while the booming metropolis welcomed a record number of 46 million tourists last year.

That's right, despite the endless right-wing attacks on Chicago and the permanent conservative depiction of the Second City as a hell hole, Chicago last year experienced the fewest murders since 1965: 413 in 2013. (Context: Chicago at its worst tallied 943 murders in 1992.) The city's overall crime rate in last year fell to a level not seen since 1972, and every one of the Chicago's 22 police districts registered a decrease in crime last year.

"The drop is legitimately stunning," noted The Atlantic's Philip Bump.

Chicago's rapidly falling murder and crime rate stands as part of a larger pattern, with major urban centers such as New York, Los Angeles, Philadelphia and Detroit all posting sharp reductions last year. It's a trend that completely undercuts right-wing spin about urban crime under Obama, as well as the alleged futility of gun laws.

Indeed, the fact that New York crime has fallen to once unimaginable levels (i.e. the lowest in recorded city history) while governed by Mayor Michael Bloomberg has given the right-wing media fits. Seen as one of the most famous and powerful anti-gun violence advocates in America, the conservative press has tried its best to undermine his gun efforts and portray him as a hypocrite.

In Chicago, the police have been focusing on seizing illegal guns, confiscating more than 6,500 last year. The fact that getting guns off the streets in Chicago has helped decrease murders also frightens pro-gun ideologues. "Conservative critics," of course, insist gun law efforts don't effect the crime rate.

For years, Obama's critics have wanted to use Chicago as the centerpiece for a debate about guns and crime in America. With its crime and murder rate down dramatically, do O'Reilly, Drudge and Malkin still want to have that debate?

Their silence suggests the answer is no.

 

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  posted on 8/3/2014 at 03:49 PM
Low info voters like mule man and alloakie will probably still disagree.

 

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  posted on 8/3/2014 at 06:14 PM
You don't say?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-boehlert/why-fox-news-lost-interes_b_455 5588.html


Why Fox News Lost Interest in Chicago Murders (Hint: Crime Rate Is Way Down)
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From The Huffington Post?
No wonder you are so ill-informed.

That rag is a left-wing Obama loving load of carp. They will write anything that props-up the failed Obama presidency.

Compare the crime statistic issued by The Justice Department vs. The ILL. States Attorney.
The real crime and murder rates in Chicago are way up.





 

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You don't say?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-boehlert/why-fox-news-lost-interes_b_455 5588.html


Why Fox News Lost Interest in Chicago Murders (Hint: Crime Rate Is Way Down)
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From The Huffington Post?
No wonder you are so ill-informed.

That rag is a left-wing Obama loving load of carp. They will write anything that props-up the failed Obama presidency.

Compare the crime statistic issued by The Justice Department vs. The ILL. States Attorney.
The real crime and murder rates in Chicago are way up.





You are wrong. where is the proof?.

 

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You don't say?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-boehlert/why-fox-news-lost-interes_b_455 5588.html


Why Fox News Lost Interest in Chicago Murders (Hint: Crime Rate Is Way Down)
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From The Huffington Post?
No wonder you are so ill-informed.
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Do you really need a how to do research tutorial?
Oh man, I would waste my time on you.
Learn to read.



That rag is a left-wing Obama loving load of carp. They will write anything that props-up the failed Obama presidency.

Compare the crime statistic issued by The Justice Department vs. The ILL. States Attorney.
The real crime and murder rates in Chicago are way up.





You are wrong. where is the proof?.

 

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  posted on 8/3/2014 at 10:07 PM
Guess I should have known that if it's not reported on Fox News you wouldn't believe it, so here is Fox News reporting it:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/01/01/chicago-police-say-2013-saw-dramatic-d rop-in-homicides-and-other-violent-crime/

CHICAGO – Following a year when Chicago led the nation in homicides with more than 500, the city's Police Department said Wednesday that in 2013 the city recorded the fewest killings since 1965 and saw its overall crime rate fall to level not seen since 1972.

The city, which ended the year with a 16 percent drop in crime, saw the numbers of violent crimes, including robbery, aggravated battery and criminal sexual assault drop significantly — some by double digits — as well as drops in burglary and motor vehicle theft.

But it has been the city's homicide rate, especially the toll on young people, that has captured national attention.

The year did not start promisingly, with more than 40 homicides recorded in January, including that of 15-year-old honor student Hadiya Pendleton, who was gunned down a mile from President Barack Obama's South Side home. But the rate slowed considerably after that, and by the end of the year the city had recorded 415 homicides, 88 fewer than in 2012 and 20 fewer than in 2011.

"We are making significant progress by putting additional officers in high-crime areas, using intelligence to prevent retaliatory shootings, moving officers from administrative positions back to the streets," Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy said in a statement.

One reason Chicago has been in the national spotlight is that in recent years it has recorded more homicides than larger cities like New York City and Los Angeles. That was again true in 2013, with New York recording 333 homicides, the lowest number since comparable record-keeping began in 1963. And, according to the Los Angeles Times, as of Dec. 28, there were 250 homicides in LA, compared with 298 the year before.

In Chicago, the police also said the number of shootings fell 24 percent from 2,448 to 1,864 between 2012 and 2013, and the number of shooting victims dropped from 3,066 to 2,328 for the same period. Further, the department said every police district in the city saw a reduction in crime and all but four of the city's 22 police districts saw the number of homicides either fall or remain the same as the year before.

The department and other city officials have pointed out that the drop in homicides, shootings and other violent crimes coincides with changes in police strategies, including tactics targeting violent street gangs that are responsible for the vast majority of the city's gun crimes and, significantly, about $100 million in overtime pay for hundreds of officers deployed nightly to high crime areas.

Mayor Rahm Emanuel has said that besides putting more officers on the street, various programs for young people have played a role in bringing the numbers of violent crime down. At a recent news conference, for example, the mayor said that a record 20,000 young people were involved in the city's summer jobs program.

"Not one of those kids was affected by gun violence this summer, and I don't believe for a minute that if they didn't have jobs they would be safe," he said.

 

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  posted on 8/4/2014 at 09:27 AM
Mayor Rahm Emanuel has said… oh there is a good source for information. He and Obama are well known for misrepresenting data and outright lying. Note the below article.

Aldermen Question McCarthy on Crime Statistics
Several aldermen in the self-described "Progressive Caucus" questioned the timing of Friday's hearing
By BJ Lutz and Mary Ann Ahern
8/1/2014: Several aldermen in the self-described "Progressive Caucus" questioned the timing of Friday's hearing.
Chicago Police Supt. Garry McCarthy was on the hot seat Friday, answering questions before a City Council committee about how the department collects and reports crime statistics.
A department spokesman early Friday morning said the city closed the first seven months of the year with the fewest number of homicides since 1963 and said overall crime in the city was down 14 percent year-over-year.
Ald. Bob Fioretti (2nd) questioned those numbers, inquiring how the department can say crime is down when the number of shootings has increased.
"The administration says, 'Oh yeah, crime is down,'" he said. "Well crime is down compared to what? We have just seen the worst month of shootings in this city. We've had almost 350 people shot, over 40 killed, and what are we talking about?"
In a two-part series, Chicago Magazine earlier this year reported the department sometimes counts multiple incidents as a single event, adding that there is pressure to under-report crime. Those are allegations McCarthy vehemently denied.
"The allegations in the article are false," McCarthy told the 12 of the city 50 aldermen who attended the hearing.
Police spokesman Martin Maloney earlier in the morning released data indicating there were 66 more shooting incidents in the first seven months of 2014 than in the first seven months of 2013. Additionally, there were 127 more shooting victims in the first seven months of 2014 than in the first seven months of 2013.
• July 1: McCarthy: City Death Toll at Lowest Rate Since 1963
Still, there were 17 fewer homicides in the city in the first seven months of the year compared to the same time in 2013, and 92 fewer homicides than were recorded between January and July of 2012, the department said.
"We're pleased with it. It's progress, not success, like I always say. At the end of the day there's a lot of things that police can do about reducing crime but it takes a whole bunch of other things," McCarthy told NBC Chicago during a television appearance Friday morning in advance of the City Council hearing. "The mayor is obviously very, very active in this, putting together programs to get kids off the street while at the same time having intelligent crime initiatives."
The city's top cop continued his drumbeat that the flow of illegal guns in the city and the lack of legislation to record the transfer and sale of firearms remain the city's greatest crime-related threats.
"My greatest source of frustration is the fact that I can see with such clarity what we need to do to turn this issue around in the State of Illinois and the City of Chicago," he said. "Coming from a place like New York, where there are more strict gun laws that restrict the number of guns coming in and gives punishment on the back end when people are arrested with those guns. The single most important thing that happens here is that we recover more guns than anyplace else in the country every single year. [It was] seven to one compared to New York last year."
Several aldermen in the self-described "Progressive Caucus" questioned the timing of Friday's hearing. They assumed they were done with business after Wednesday's City Council meeting, as is tradition.
Friday's hearing appeared on the schedule at the last minute on Thursday, leading some to argue that Mayor Rahm Emanuel deliberately called the meeting on a Friday, when public attention would be diverted by the weekend and Lollapalooza.

Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/chicago-crime-statistics-26954704 1.html#ixzz39QqpDIIM
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[Edited on 8/4/2014 by Muleman1994]

 

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Strict gun control laws do nothing to prevent or even reduce crime. They do however result in more innocent people getting killed or maimed.


Nothing?

Do you also contend that strict murder laws do nothing to prevent murder?

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I do have a problem with murder as in Holder and Obama running guns to Mexican drug cartels which resulted in hundreds of murders including U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.



What does that even mean?

Do you contend that all laws have nothing to do with reducing crime or just strict gun laws?

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Strict gun control laws do nothing to prevent or even reduce crime. They do however result in more innocent people getting killed or maimed.


That statement is moronic.

 

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Do you contend that all laws have nothing to do with reducing crime or just strict gun laws?
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Amazing that some people really are stupid.

What good do gun control laws do when the Obama administration runs guns to drug cartels, those guns are used to murder Americans and Holder is not in jail?


 

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So Obama and Holder jumped in a truck and ran guns down to Mexico so the cartels would have weapons to kill American citizens.

Wow.

You win Muleman1994! Laws don't work. I can't wait to live in your society.

"Amazing that some people really are stupid."

Yeah. Amazing.

 

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Here is another study that Muleman1994 will quickly discount because it is inconvenient to his beliefs:

http://www.legalnews.com/detroit/1373577

More Gun Laws = Equal Fewer Deaths, 50-State Study Says

CHICAGO (AP) — States with the most gun control laws have the fewest gun-related deaths, according to a study that suggests sheer quantity of measures might make a difference.

But the research leaves many questions unanswered and won’t settle the debate over how policymakers should respond to recent high-profile acts of gun violence.

In the dozen or so states with the most gun control-related laws, far fewer people were shot to death or killed themselves with guns than in the states with the fewest laws, the study found. Overall, states with the most laws had a 42 percent lower gun death rate than states with the least number of laws.

The results are based on an analysis of 2007-2010 gun-related homicides and suicides from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The researchers also used data on gun control measures in all 50 states compiled by the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, a well-known gun control advocacy group. They compared states by dividing them into four equal-sized groups according to the number of gun laws.

The results were published online Wednesday in the medical journal JAMA Internal Medicine.

More than 30,000 people nationwide die from guns every year nationwide, and there’s evidence that gun-related violent crime rates have increased since 2008, a journal editorial noted.

During the four-years studied, there were nearly 122,000 gun deaths, 60 percent of them suicides.

“Our motivation was really to understand what are the interventions that can be done to reduce firearm mortality,” said Dr. Eric Fleegler, the study’s lead author and an emergency department pediatrician and researcher at Boston Children’s Hospital.

He said his study suggests but doesn’t prove that gun laws — or something else — led to fewer gun deaths.

Fleegler is also among hundreds of doctors who have signed a petition urging President Barack Obama and Congress to pass gun safety legislation, a campaign organized by the advocacy group Doctors for America.

Gun rights advocates have argued that strict gun laws have failed to curb high murder rates in some cities, including Chicago and Washington, D.C. Fleegler said his study didn’t examine city-level laws, while gun control advocates have said local laws aren’t as effective when neighboring states have lax laws.

Previous research on the effectiveness of gun laws has had mixed results, and it’s a “very challenging” area to study, said Dr. Daniel Webster, director of the Johns Hopkins Center For Gun Policy. He was not involved in the current study.

The strongest kind of research would require comparisons between states that have dissimilar gun laws but otherwise are nearly identical, “but there isn’t a super nice twin for New Jersey,” for example, a state with strict gun laws, Webster noted.

Fleegler said his study’s conclusions took into account factors also linked with gun violence, including poverty, education levels and race, which vary among the states.

The average annual gun death rate ranged from almost 3 per 100,000 in Hawaii to 18 per 100,000 in Louisiana. Hawaii had 16 gun laws, and along with New Jersey, New York and Massachusetts was among states with the most laws and fewest deaths. States with the fewest laws and most deaths included Alaska, Kentucky, Louisiana and Oklahoma.

But there were outliers: South Dakota, for example, had just two guns laws but few deaths.

Editorial author Dr. Garen Wintemute, director the Violence Prevention Research Program at the University of California, Davis, said the study doesn’t answer which laws, if any, work.

Wintemute said it’s likely that gun control measures are more readily enacted in states with few gun owners — a factor that might have more influence on gun deaths than the number of laws.

 

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So Obama and Holder jumped in a truck and ran guns down to Mexico so the cartels would have weapons to kill American citizens.

Wow.

You win Muleman1994! Laws don't work. I can't wait to live in your society.

"Amazing that some people really are stupid."

Yeah. Amazing.

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Eric Holder was held in contempt of Congress for twice lying under oath in the Fast & Furious investigation.

U.S. Boarder Agent Brian Terry was murdered by a Mexican using one of the guns provided to him by by that program as well as three other American citizens in Texas.
The Mexican Gov't filed an official complaint with the U.S. State Department for the murder on 300 of their citizens by drug cartel members using guns given to them by the Obama administration.

Your ignorance of the facts is disturbing but typical of a Obama kiss ass liberal.

A human life means nothing to you and your little friends.

However, on judgement day you will get yours.


 
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