Thread: Comrade Sanders collusion with Russians exposed

Muleman1994 - 2/26/2018 at 09:57 PM

Bernie Sanders struggles to address Russian support after Mueller indictment
www.foxnews.com

Sen. Bernie Sanders has seemingly struggled to address recent allegations that Russia's campaign to interfere in the 2016 presidential election included a plan to boost his Democratic primary campaign.

For well over a year, it was alleged that Moscow's meddling mainly was meant to boost now-President Trump and harm then-Democratic rival Hillary Clinton.

A bombshell Feb. 16 indictment filed against 13 Russian nationals in Robert Mueller's Russia probe bolstered those allegations, in stunning detail -- but also said the Russians sought to help Sanders.
Russian nationals, the indictment said, “engaged in operations primarily intended to communicate derogatory information about Hillary Clinton, to denigrate other candidates such as Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, and to support Bernie Sanders and then-candidate Donald Trump.”

The details create an awkward situation for the Vermont senator, as he is seen to be positioning himself for a potential 2020 White House run.

Special Counsel Robert Mueller's team indicted 13 Russian nationals on Feb. 16, 2018 for interfering in the 2016 presidential election. (Reuters)

Sanders, however, has yet to give a clear response on whether he and his campaign were aware of, or took action to address, the interference -- like Russian bot social media accounts allegedly supporting his campaign. Instead, Sanders, I-Vt., has tried to shift the scrutiny toward Clinton’s campaign for not doing more to prevent Russian meddling.

“The real question to be asked is what was the Clinton campaign [doing about Russian interference]? They had more information about this than we did,” Sanders said in an interview last week with Vermont Public Radio. “They were supporting my campaign? No. They were attacking Hillary Clinton’s campaign and using my supporters against Hillary Clinton.”

One episode in the indictment involved Russian nationals allegedly circulating in February 2016 an internal “outline of themes for future content to be posted to organization-controlled social media accounts.”

13 RUSSIAN NATIONALS INDICTED FOR INTERERING IN US ELECTIONS

“Specialists were instructed to post content that focused on ‘politics in the USA’ and to ‘use any opportunity to criticize Hillary and the rest (except Sanders and Trump –we support them),” the documents said.

Sanders claimed in the radio interview, and again on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” that a campaign aide shared information with the Clinton campaign about suspected anti-Clinton Russian trolls on a campaign Facebook page.

“A guy who was on my staff … checked it out and he went to the Clinton campaign, and he said, ‘You know what? I think these guys are Russians,’” Sanders said. His former campaign manager Jeff Weaver said the senator’s comments were based on news reports, specifically one by NBC’s San Diego affiliate that suggested a campaign volunteer brought the findings to the Clinton team.

Politico, however, reported that the 'staffer' Sanders was referring to, John Mattes from San Diego, was just a volunteer -- and did not receive any direction from Sanders or campaign staff, but rather communicated on his own with a Clinton-backing super PAC.

The Clinton campaign denied receiving information from the Sanders campaign on the issue of Russian influence. (AP)

The Clinton campaign itself denied receiving information from Sanders' campaign on the issue, telling Politico that no one from Sanders’ campaign reached out.

Weaver later told Politico that Sanders did not have any firsthand knowledge that that happened.
A spokesperson for Sanders did not respond to Fox News’ request for comment.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/26/bernie-sanders-struggles-to-addr ess-russian-support-after-mueller-indictment.html


Bernie Sanders promoted false story on reporting Russian trolls

The Vermont senator’s claim of sharing suspicious activity with the Clinton campaign never happened.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/24/bernie-sanders-russian-trolls-fal se-story-423413


2112 - 2/26/2018 at 11:36 PM

Interesting that you call the "help anyone but Hillary" attitude the Russians had as collusion by Sanders, yet you are constantly denying Trump colluded with the Russians when they were clearly helping Trump as well. Hypocrisy much?


BrerRabbit - 2/26/2018 at 11:57 PM

Starting to look to me like the Russians may have simply been trying to start a national argument over whether they interfered, with their goal being to divide, distract, and disrupt, if so they have succeeded. The real interference is all the continuing bullcrap over this.

It is shady for anyone in US politics to work with Russians, however, my feeling since this thing started has been if you are dumb enough to allow Russians to sway your vote via social media then your vote isn't worth a damn anyway. If the Russians were playing both sides then it was an equal handicap and not worth the noise.

No Russian propaganda influenced my decisions, or those of anyone paying attention to the world outside of Facefook.




Muleman1994 - 2/27/2018 at 12:29 AM

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Interesting that you call the "help anyone but Hillary" attitude the Russians had as collusion by Sanders, yet you are constantly denying Trump colluded with the Russians when they were clearly helping Trump as well. Hypocrisy much?


"Interesting that you call the "help anyone but Hillary" attitude"

That is your assumption, not mine.

The Russians "helping" Donald Trump is the fake narrative by the Democrats and the corrupt liberal media No evidence, no documents and no witnesses exist to support that lie.

The Russians were also organizing rallies against Donald Trump. That idiot Michael Moore attended one in NYC.


2112 - 2/27/2018 at 12:55 AM

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Interesting that you call the "help anyone but Hillary" attitude the Russians had as collusion by Sanders, yet you are constantly denying Trump colluded with the Russians when they were clearly helping Trump as well. Hypocrisy much?


"Interesting that you call the "help anyone but Hillary" attitude"

That is your assumption, not mine.

The Russians "helping" Donald Trump is the fake narrative by the Democrats and the corrupt liberal media No evidence, no documents and no witnesses exist to support that lie.

The Russians were also organizing rallies against Donald Trump. That idiot Michael Moore attended one in NYC.




It's the narrative of the Fox News article you posted.



"For well over a year, it was alleged that Moscow's meddling mainly was meant to boost now-President Trump and harm then-Democratic rival Hillary Clinton. 

A bombshell Feb. 16 indictment filed against 13 Russian nationals in Robert Mueller's Russia probe bolstered those allegations, in stunning detail -- but also said the Russians sought to help Sanders." 


Key words - BUT ALSO

that means the Russians were not only helping Trump BUT ALSO Sanders.

Russians wanted anyone but Hillary. They tied to help Trump and also Sanders. But yet you claim, without a shred of evidence, that Sanders colluded with the Russians, yet you keep insisting that Trump had no collusion.

I don't know if Trump colluded with Russia or not, but their sure seems to be an awful lot of Trump/Russia connections, and he sure appeared to be obstructing justice to hide something.


BrerRabbit - 2/27/2018 at 01:11 AM

Boosting Sanders would divide the dems and hurt Clinton. So this fits neatly with a pro-Trump agenda. If it occurred at all and isn't just bread and circuses.

The whole show is a sham.


OriginalGoober - 2/27/2018 at 01:31 AM

So the Russians tried to align/ infiltrate a Socialists campaign? Not a stretch to me.


Bhawk - 2/27/2018 at 12:43 PM

No matter who the Russians tried to help or not, why won’t the President do anything about it? Does he care if there is foreign influence on future elections? We already know his supporters don’t care.


Muleman1994 - 2/27/2018 at 03:26 PM

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So the Russians tried to align/ infiltrate a Socialists campaign? Not a stretch to me.



Our friends on the left are spinning so fast they are falling off the point.
The Russians, as they have been doing for decades, meddle in elections world-wide.

The Bern-outs try so hard to twist the discussion back to the fake Russia/Trump narrative.

Oh well. They still have nothing yet are desperate to keep the scam alive.

Notice the Bernie is all of a sudden not available to the media?



BrerRabbit - 2/27/2018 at 06:34 PM

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. . .desperate to keep the scam alive.


This thread is a transparent attempt to keep this scam alive. You focus on this issue more than anyone else here. You are desperate to keep this scam alive. Why?

You posted an article from a rightwingnut news source that is desperate to keep this scam alive. The article is grasping at straws, based on hearsay from a campaign volunteer, and you seize on it as if it is proof that Bernie Sanders was in cahoots with the Russians, who by the way aren't communist at all, they are run by pure capitalist mob thugs.

If you aren't a Russian troll, you certainly do seem to be easily programmed by them.


jkeller - 2/27/2018 at 06:56 PM

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. . .desperate to keep the scam alive.


This thread is a transparent attempt to keep this scam alive. You focus on this issue more than anyone else here. You are desperate to keep this scam alive. Why?

You posted an article from a rightwingnut news source that is desperate to keep this scam alive. The article is grasping at straws, based on hearsay from a campaign volunteer, and you seize on it as if it is proof that Bernie Sanders was in cahoots with the Russians, who by the way aren't communist at all, they are run by pure capitalist mob thugs.

If you aren't a Russian troll, you certainly do seem to be easily programmed by them.




The beauty of the claim of "Sanders collude, Trump didn't" is that 4 people from the Trump campaign have been indicted with some of the charges concerning crimes committed while working on the campaign. Nobody from Sanders campaign has been indicted for anything.


BoytonBrother - 2/27/2018 at 07:36 PM

It enrages Muleman that Obama, a black man, is way smarter, way richer, and can speak better than he can. Obama makes Mule feel like the bottom rung of the American social ladder and that scares the sh*t out of him. Instead of working harder, he blames others for his shortcomings. Sad!


BrerRabbit - 2/27/2018 at 08:43 PM

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It enrages Muleman that Obama, a black man, is way smarter, way richer, and can speak better than he can.


Are you saying that you think Mukeski is a white man? Isn't that a blatantly racist assumption, if you have never seen him in person?


BoytonBrother - 2/27/2018 at 09:31 PM

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Are you saying that you think Mukeski is a white man?


Yes.

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Isn't that a blatantly racist assumption, if you have never seen him in person?


What is your definition of blatant racism? If a white person wants to date/marry within their own race, that is blatant racism, is it not? On the racism scale from 1-100, with 100 being the KKK and 1 being someone choosing to marry within their own race, I’ll give my post a 2 on the racism scale.


BrerRabbit - 2/27/2018 at 11:52 PM

Touché. This racism scale is a sound thought experiment. It assumes racism as a given - which is overwhelmingly the case, unless you were raised in the town of Blissville, Hippytopia - then challenges us to gauge our thoughts and actions within a context of racist behavioral parameters.

This is a difficult if not impossible task for the racist who is so ignorant that he claims not to be racist. These types generally mount the biggest defense that they are not racist, while lesser racists tend to be able to recognize racist programming in themselves.

As to your rating of 2, it would seem more fitting that identifying someone's race based on political comments would merit a score somewhat higher, not drastically so, but more like around a 9 - 12ish .

A score of 2 is more on the order of finding yourself surprised when you are talking to an African-American acquaintance and discover he is a huge fan of 80's white hair bands like Poison, which happened to me last week, and I had to pause and check my racism scale, which was a 2. I was somewhat taken aback to hear him tell me that Rikki Rocket kicks ass. While here I am totally into reggae, african music, blues, jazz and hip-hop.

May America always keep us guessing!


BoytonBrother - 2/28/2018 at 12:16 AM

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As to your rating of 2, it would seem more fitting that identifying someone's race based on political comments would merit a score somewhat higher, not drastically so, but more like around a 9 - 12ish .


Well, it’s based on a lot more than his political beliefs. But let’s meet in the middle and give my post a 5?

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A score of 2 is more on the order of finding yourself surprised when you are talking to an African-American acquaintance and discover he is a huge fan of 80's white hair bands like Poison, which happened to me last week, and I had to pause and check my racism scale, which was a 2. I was somewhat taken aback to hear him tell me that Rikki Rocket kicks ass. While here I am totally into reggae, african music, blues, jazz and hip-hop.


LOL, yes, I think any American would be shocked to hear a black guy analyzing the guitar work of Rikki Rocket. I had a moment like this too. In college, we went off campus to a bar in the city. On stage was a black guy wearing a tight pink t-shirt, a cowboy hat, singing country. And this was in the mid 90s. My buddy and I looked at each other and said, “Now I’ve seen everything.”

In all seriousness, I learned a while back that most things exist at a degree on a large scale, especially racism. The term “that’s racist”, can mean a million different things. We don’t realize it, but our criminal justice system applies this logic in every case. Every detail of the crime is weighed to decide the verdict and sentence. Two people can be convicted of the same exact crime, in the same town, but receive much different sentences because of how the judge weighs the degree of the crime. It’s a necessary task in order to make sane, rational, and fair decisions .


BrerRabbit - 2/28/2018 at 12:47 AM

What about Charlie Pride, 1970s, black C&W megastar RCA's top artist since Elvis? "Is Anybody Going to San Antone" fantastic, enduring country classic!

https://youtu.be/XzHHvxNh4PY

9 - 12 was kinda high. I'm good with 5.


dutchoneill - 2/28/2018 at 11:40 AM

Hilary was a terrible candidate.
Russia, Russia, Russia.

Start thinking Iran and China. They are the real threats.


2112 - 3/1/2018 at 09:06 PM

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Hilary was a terrible candidate.
Russia, Russia, Russia.

Start thinking Iran and China. They are the real threats.


Did China and Iran meddle in our election? I must have missed that.


dutchoneill - 3/1/2018 at 09:22 PM

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Hilary was a terrible candidate.
Russia, Russia, Russia.

Start thinking Iran and China. They are the real threats.


Did China and Iran meddle in our election? I must have missed that.


Ill go back to my first line
Hillary was a terrible candidate
Nothing will come of the Russia waste of time and money.


2112 - 3/1/2018 at 10:20 PM

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Hilary was a terrible candidate.
Russia, Russia, Russia.

Start thinking Iran and China. They are the real threats.


Did China and Iran meddle in our election? I must have missed that.


Ill go back to my first line
Hillary was a terrible candidate
Nothing will come of the Russia waste of time and money.


I wouldn't consider indictments or guilty pleas so far of 19 individuals and 3 companies "nothing will come of the Russia waste of time and money." That is so far. More will be coming.

If you want to talk about wastes of time and money you should be talking about all those Benghazi investigations that lead to not a single indictment.


Muleman1994 - 3/2/2018 at 07:56 PM

Bernie Sanders promoted false story on reporting Russian trolls
The Vermont senator’s claim of sharing suspicious activity with the Clinton campaign never happened.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/24/bernie-sanders-russian-trolls-fal se-story-423413



2112 - 3/3/2018 at 01:54 AM

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Bernie Sanders promoted false story on reporting Russian trolls
The Vermont senator’s claim of sharing suspicious activity with the Clinton campaign never happened.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/24/bernie-sanders-russian-trolls-fal se-story-423413



Promoting false stories on Russian trolls - Who know Trump and Sanders were so much alike? Not really, Trump is 1,000 times the liar that Sanders is.


Muleman1994 - 3/3/2018 at 03:09 AM

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Bernie Sanders promoted false story on reporting Russian trolls
The Vermont senator’s claim of sharing suspicious activity with the Clinton campaign never happened.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/24/bernie-sanders-russian-trolls-fal se-story-423413



Promoting false stories on Russian trolls - Who know Trump and Sanders were so much alike? Not really, Trump is 1,000 times the liar that Sanders is.



Donald Trump is President and Bernie Sanders is a joke.


IPowrie - 3/3/2018 at 06:33 AM

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Bernie Sanders promoted false story on reporting Russian trolls
The Vermont senator’s claim of sharing suspicious activity with the Clinton campaign never happened.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/24/bernie-sanders-russian-trolls-fal se-story-423413



Promoting false stories on Russian trolls - Who know Trump and Sanders were so much alike? Not really, Trump is 1,000 times the liar that Sanders is.



Donald Trump is President and Bernie Sanders is a Senator from Vermont




Fixed that for you. In other Russia news Trump is too scared to call out Putin for his boasting of potential new nuclear capabilities.


BrerRabbit - 3/3/2018 at 07:15 AM

I doubt he is scared, more like ecstatic, doubling down on stock futures in Russian nukes, courtesy of Putin.


Muleman1994 - 3/3/2018 at 09:47 PM

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Bernie Sanders promoted false story on reporting Russian trolls
The Vermont senator’s claim of sharing suspicious activity with the Clinton campaign never happened.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/24/bernie-sanders-russian-trolls-fal se-story-423413



Promoting false stories on Russian trolls - Who know Trump and Sanders were so much alike? Not really, Trump is 1,000 times the liar that Sanders is.



Donald Trump is President and Bernie Sanders is a Senator from Vermont




Fixed that for you. In other Russia news Trump is too scared to call out Putin for his boasting of potential new nuclear capabilities.


"potential" - with nothing to prove Putin's bragging.
The only effect is the Putin played the lefties yet again.

Suckers.


BoytonBrother - 3/4/2018 at 02:38 AM

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The only effect is the Putin played the lefties yet again.


Keep praising him, Benedict.


BrerRabbit - 3/4/2018 at 04:41 AM

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The only effect is the Putin played the lefties yet again


Go eat some more borscht Comrade Muleski.


Muleman1994 - 3/4/2018 at 08:30 PM

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The only effect is the Putin played the lefties yet again.


Keep praising him, Benedict.




Putin played the lefties and the lefties lost the lection.


BoytonBrother - 3/5/2018 at 04:19 AM

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Putin played the lefties and the lefties lost the election


I think the media and lefties are playing you, getting you all upset all the time.


2112 - 3/5/2018 at 04:42 AM

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The only effect is the Putin played the lefties yet again.


Keep praising him, Benedict.




Putin played the lefties and the lefties lost the lection.



Everybody lost the election. It you were smarter you'd realize that.


Muleman1994 - 3/5/2018 at 04:04 PM

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The only effect is the Putin played the lefties yet again.


Keep praising him, Benedict.




Putin played the lefties and the lefties lost the lection.



Everybody lost the election. It you were smarter you'd realize that.



Donald Trump won the election and The Russians had no effect (*)

(*) verified by the intelligence community, Obama's FBI and the top Democrats.



pops42 - 3/5/2018 at 05:48 PM

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The only effect is the Putin played the lefties yet again.


Keep praising him, Benedict.




Putin played the lefties and the lefties lost the lection.



Everybody lost the election. It you were smarter you'd realize that.



Donald Trump won the election and The Russians had no effect (*)

(*) verified by the intelligence community, Obama's FBI and the top Democrats.



Really?, moron. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/07/06/8-times-u-s-intel ligence-chiefs-have-unequivocally-said-russia-meddled-in-the-u-s-election/? utm_term=.e23412c584cb


Muleman1994 - 3/6/2018 at 02:31 PM

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The only effect is the Putin played the lefties yet again.


Keep praising him, Benedict.




Putin played the lefties and the lefties lost the lection.



Everybody lost the election. It you were smarter you'd realize that.



Donald Trump won the election and The Russians had no effect (*)

(*) verified by the intelligence community, Obama's FBI and the top Democrats.



Really?, moron. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/07/06/8-times-u-s-intel ligence-chiefs-have-unequivocally-said-russia-meddled-in-the-u-s-election/? utm_term=.e23412c584cb



So pops goes to an opinion piece in the far-left WAPO.

No one is saying that the Russians did not meddle. They did but no one with any creditability says that the Russians had any effect.

You clowns on the left lost the election because your candidate was corrupt, a criminal and a habitual liar.

The Russian meddling was well known going back to 2014 and Obama was often told so. Obama failed to do anything other than telling Putin to cut it out. Putin of course did what he always did to Obama and laughed in his face.



nebish - 3/6/2018 at 02:52 PM

It is extremely difficult to measure, probably impossible, to say if any disinformation or negative information that came from foreign Russian sources impacted individual votes and swayed the election. The main angle would be that discouraged Bernie Sanders voters stayed home as Hillary Clinton smears only added to their reluctance to support her. How do you quantify that? There is just no way to ever know. The Mueller investigation will tell us alot, but I don't think it can tell us that and by memory of the hearings I believe that Comey and Brennan have also said they can't know the potential impact any meddling had.


BoytonBrother - 3/6/2018 at 05:49 PM

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The Russian meddling was well known going back to 2014 and Obama was often told so. Obama failed to do anything other than telling Putin to cut it out. Putin of course did what he always did to Obama and laughed in his face.


I guess you are forgetting the wiretaps that Obama requested that led to Mueller’s investigation, that led to a dozen Russian indictments for meddling. But go ahead and slander a U.S. President in order to praise a foreign leader guilty of meddling in our elections, if it makes you feel better comrade.







[Edited on 3/6/2018 by BoytonBrother]


Sang - 3/6/2018 at 06:58 PM

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You clowns on the left lost the election because your candidate was corrupt, a criminal and a habitual liar.





So was yours......................


IPowrie - 3/6/2018 at 09:10 PM

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Bernie Sanders promoted false story on reporting Russian trolls
The Vermont senator’s claim of sharing suspicious activity with the Clinton campaign never happened.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/24/bernie-sanders-russian-trolls-fal se-story-423413



Promoting false stories on Russian trolls - Who know Trump and Sanders were so much alike? Not really, Trump is 1,000 times the liar that Sanders is.



Donald Trump is President and Bernie Sanders is a Senator from Vermont




Fixed that for you. In other Russia news Trump is too scared to call out Putin for his boasting of potential new nuclear capabilities.


"potential" - with nothing to prove Putin's bragging.
The only effect is the Putin played the lefties yet again.

Suckers.



Just like we had no proof that North Korea could actually do anything and yet Trump went on a twitter rant about Kim Jong Un. But then again Trump is a wuss.


2112 - 3/6/2018 at 11:47 PM

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It is extremely difficult to measure, probably impossible, to say if any disinformation or negative information that came from foreign Russian sources impacted individual votes and swayed the election. The main angle would be that discouraged Bernie Sanders voters stayed home as Hillary Clinton smears only added to their reluctance to support her. How do you quantify that? There is just no way to ever know. The Mueller investigation will tell us alot, but I don't think it can tell us that and by memory of the hearings I believe that Comey and Brennan have also said they can't know the potential impact any meddling had.



You're correct, there is no way to know. And your correct that the biggest impact was to disenfranchise Bernie voters so that they would stay home and not vote for Hillary. In such a close election that henge on just a few votes in just a few states, it may have made the difference, but without interviewing every voter in America, it's all speculation.

That said, why isn't Trump punishing Russia for meddling? Congress overwelmingly voted to sanction Russia, and Trump has failed to follow through. For somebody who a very large portion of America think is colluding with Russia, his reluctance to follow through on Russian sanctions certainly seems suspicious. Russia clearly attacked America's democratic system, yet Trump and his supporters don't seem to care. Is it that because they liked the outcome, and because of that they don't care that someone tried to mess with our democratic system? I have a feeling that if Russia was trying to help Hillary we might seem a little more alarm from these same people.

And yes, the US has meddled with other countries elections in the past, and their is a lot of lingering anger and mistrust toward the US in some of these countries decades later and most politicians in those countries make an effort to not appear to be a puppet to the US. Yet here we are, with Trump saying over and over that he didn't collude with Russia, yet does nothing to deture Russia from doing it again.


nebish - 3/7/2018 at 01:09 AM

Trump's behavior and inaction towards Russia is very very very suspicious. I have said, he must be trying to hide some skeleton in his past, something in his closet he doesn't want out. And ofcourse that is concerning. I can't think of any other explanation he would act and say the things he does. I just don't know myself. I am hoping that Mueller investigation will shed light on everything there is or isn't to be found.


Muleman1994 - 3/7/2018 at 04:09 PM

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It is extremely difficult to measure, probably impossible, to say if any disinformation or negative information that came from foreign Russian sources impacted individual votes and swayed the election. The main angle would be that discouraged Bernie Sanders voters stayed home as Hillary Clinton smears only added to their reluctance to support her. How do you quantify that? There is just no way to ever know. The Mueller investigation will tell us alot, but I don't think it can tell us that and by memory of the hearings I believe that Comey and Brennan have also said they can't know the potential impact any meddling had.



You're correct, there is no way to know. And your correct that the biggest impact was to disenfranchise Bernie voters so that they would stay home and not vote for Hillary. In such a close election that henge on just a few votes in just a few states, it may have made the difference, but without interviewing every voter in America, it's all speculation.

That said, why isn't Trump punishing Russia for meddling? Congress overwelmingly voted to sanction Russia, and Trump has failed to follow through. For somebody who a very large portion of America think is colluding with Russia, his reluctance to follow through on Russian sanctions certainly seems suspicious. Russia clearly attacked America's democratic system, yet Trump and his supporters don't seem to care. Is it that because they liked the outcome, and because of that they don't care that someone tried to mess with our democratic system? I have a feeling that if Russia was trying to help Hillary we might seem a little more alarm from these same people.

And yes, the US has meddled with other countries elections in the past, and their is a lot of lingering anger and mistrust toward the US in some of these countries decades later and most politicians in those countries make an effort to not appear to be a puppet to the US. Yet here we are, with Trump saying over and over that he didn't collude with Russia, yet does nothing to deture Russia from doing it again.



"Congress overwelmingly voted to sanction Russia" - not for meddling. Try to get your facts right son.

The Trump administration is taking actions to prevent Russia from meddling in our elections. Try paying attention to actual news.

The was no collusion by Donald Trump with the Russians. No documents, no evidence and no witnesses exist.

There is however substantial evidence of Hillary Clinton colluding with the Russians to meddle with the election and for her to personally profit from selling The State Department.


Sang - 3/7/2018 at 06:14 PM

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There is however substantial evidence of Hillary Clinton colluding with the Russians to meddle with the election and for her to personally profit from selling The State Department.

The Trump administration is taking actions to prevent Russia from meddling in our elections. Try paying attention to actual news.





Repeating lies over and over don't make them true..........


2112 - 3/7/2018 at 09:24 PM

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The Trump administration is taking actions to prevent Russia from meddling in our elections. Try paying attention to actual news.


I'd be interested in hearing what actions the Trump administration are taking to prevent Russia from meddling in out elections. Please enlighten us. Thanks.


Chain - 3/7/2018 at 10:08 PM

Trump's refusal to defend the nation against the Russian attack and carry out the additional sanctions as passed by Congress is an act of TREASON. He is not carrying out his responsibility to defend the nation and should be impeached for his inaction. It's that simple...

If a Democrat were acting in this manner the Republicans, Fake news, Rush Limburger, etc.. would have demanded an impeachment effort months ago.


BrerRabbit - 3/7/2018 at 11:17 PM

Meddle About

I'm your wicked Uncle Vladski,
I'm glad you won't see or hear me,
As I meddle about
Meddle about
Meddle about

You're country's deaf and dumb and blind now,
So I'm doing what I want to
Meddling about
Meddling about
Meddle about

Down with your Hillary
Up with your Donald
Meddle about
Meddle about
Meddle about

You won't shout as I meddle about
Meddle....meddle....meddle....meddle....





Muleman1994 - 3/8/2018 at 03:53 AM

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The Trump administration is taking actions to prevent Russia from meddling in our elections. Try paying attention to actual news.


I'd be interested in hearing what actions the Trump administration are taking to prevent Russia from meddling in out elections. Please enlighten us. Thanks.



Well covered by legitimate news organizations and even WAPO.
Congress is currently working on new sanctions and the appropriate intelligence agencies are making changes to thwart Russian meddling.

Since the corrupt liberal media owns you the facts are unknown to you.


2112 - 3/8/2018 at 08:55 AM

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The Trump administration is taking actions to prevent Russia from meddling in our elections. Try paying attention to actual news.


I'd be interested in hearing what actions the Trump administration are taking to prevent Russia from meddling in out elections. Please enlighten us. Thanks.



Well covered by legitimate news organizations and even WAPO.
Congress is currently working on new sanctions and the appropriate intelligence agencies are making changes to thwart Russian meddling.

Since the corrupt liberal media owns you the facts are unknown to you.



The Trump administration hasn't enforced the last set of sanctions congress passed overwhelmingly, nor have they spent a dime of the $120 million congress set aside to prevent a repeat.

Your answer is a joke. Clearly Trump doesn't care about the Russian meddling, and his supporters don't care either. American democracy has been attacked, and you and Trump don't seem to care.


Muleman1994 - 3/8/2018 at 05:31 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
The Trump administration is taking actions to prevent Russia from meddling in our elections. Try paying attention to actual news.


I'd be interested in hearing what actions the Trump administration are taking to prevent Russia from meddling in out elections. Please enlighten us. Thanks.



Well covered by legitimate news organizations and even WAPO.
Congress is currently working on new sanctions and the appropriate intelligence agencies are making changes to thwart Russian meddling.

Since the corrupt liberal media owns you the facts are unknown to you.



The Trump administration hasn't enforced the last set of sanctions congress passed overwhelmingly, nor have they spent a dime of the $120 million congress set aside to prevent a repeat.

Your answer is a joke. Clearly Trump doesn't care about the Russian meddling, and his supporters don't care either. American democracy has been attacked, and you and Trump don't seem to care.



"American democracy has been attacked"

Liar.

The Russian meddling in the 2016 election was minor at best and something they have been doing for decades.

No legitimate person has said that the Russian meddling had any effect except to send the lefties into a political temper-tantrum.

One of your leading idiots Michael Moore was suckered into attending an anti-Trump rally in NYC sponsored by Russians on the same day a pro-Trump rally, sponsored by the Russians, was held in NYC.

Solid measures to curtail foreign meddling on our elections since President Trump started.
Informed people know this.
Informed is something you are not.





BoytonBrother - 3/8/2018 at 06:26 PM

quote:
Informed people know this.


Informed people know that Obama’s proactive work led to a dozen Russian official indictments.


2112 - 3/8/2018 at 06:52 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
The Trump administration is taking actions to prevent Russia from meddling in our elections. Try paying attention to actual news.


I'd be interested in hearing what actions the Trump administration are taking to prevent Russia from meddling in out elections. Please enlighten us. Thanks.



Well covered by legitimate news organizations and even WAPO.
Congress is currently working on new sanctions and the appropriate intelligence agencies are making changes to thwart Russian meddling.

Since the corrupt liberal media owns you the facts are unknown to you.



The Trump administration hasn't enforced the last set of sanctions congress passed overwhelmingly, nor have they spent a dime of the $120 million congress set aside to prevent a repeat.

Your answer is a joke. Clearly Trump doesn't care about the Russian meddling, and his supporters don't care either. American democracy has been attacked, and you and Trump don't seem to care.



"American democracy has been attacked"

Liar.

The Russian meddling in the 2016 election was minor at best and something they have been doing for decades.

No legitimate person has said that the Russian meddling had any effect except to send the lefties into a political temper-tantrum.

One of your leading idiots Michael Moore was suckered into attending an anti-Trump rally in NYC sponsored by Russians on the same day a pro-Trump rally, sponsored by the Russians, was held in NYC.

Solid measures to curtail foreign meddling on our elections since President Trump started.
Informed people know this.
Informed is something you are not.







Why would congress bother with new sanctions when the Trump administration wouldn't follow through enforcing the old ones. Trump is just thumbing his nose up at congress and the American people. Instead of enforcing sanctions on Russia he provides them with top secret intelligence. Trump is nothing if not bold. It's obvious to anyone with a brain that Russia has something on him. You just can't see it due to your unconditional love for the man.


Muleman1994 - 3/8/2018 at 06:54 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
The Trump administration is taking actions to prevent Russia from meddling in our elections. Try paying attention to actual news.


I'd be interested in hearing what actions the Trump administration are taking to prevent Russia from meddling in out elections. Please enlighten us. Thanks.



Well covered by legitimate news organizations and even WAPO.
Congress is currently working on new sanctions and the appropriate intelligence agencies are making changes to thwart Russian meddling.

Since the corrupt liberal media owns you the facts are unknown to you.



The Trump administration hasn't enforced the last set of sanctions congress passed overwhelmingly, nor have they spent a dime of the $120 million congress set aside to prevent a repeat.

Your answer is a joke. Clearly Trump doesn't care about the Russian meddling, and his supporters don't care either. American democracy has been attacked, and you and Trump don't seem to care.



"American democracy has been attacked"

Liar.

The Russian meddling in the 2016 election was minor at best and something they have been doing for decades.

No legitimate person has said that the Russian meddling had any effect except to send the lefties into a political temper-tantrum.

One of your leading idiots Michael Moore was suckered into attending an anti-Trump rally in NYC sponsored by Russians on the same day a pro-Trump rally, sponsored by the Russians, was held in NYC.

Solid measures to curtail foreign meddling on our elections since President Trump started.
Informed people know this.
Informed is something you are not.







Why would congress bother with new sanctions when the Trump administration wouldn't follow through enforcing the old ones. Trump is just thumbing his nose up at congress and the American people. Instead of enforcing sanctions on Russia he provides them with top secret intelligence. Trump is nothing if not bold. It's obvious to anyone with a brain that Russia has something on him. You just can't see it due to your unconditional love for the man.



Your " Trump administration wouldn't follow through enforcing the old ones." is a lie.


2112 - 3/8/2018 at 07:09 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
The Trump administration is taking actions to prevent Russia from meddling in our elections. Try paying attention to actual news.


I'd be interested in hearing what actions the Trump administration are taking to prevent Russia from meddling in out elections. Please enlighten us. Thanks.



Well covered by legitimate news organizations and even WAPO.
Congress is currently working on new sanctions and the appropriate intelligence agencies are making changes to thwart Russian meddling.

Since the corrupt liberal media owns you the facts are unknown to you.



The Trump administration hasn't enforced the last set of sanctions congress passed overwhelmingly, nor have they spent a dime of the $120 million congress set aside to prevent a repeat.

Your answer is a joke. Clearly Trump doesn't care about the Russian meddling, and his supporters don't care either. American democracy has been attacked, and you and Trump don't seem to care.



"American democracy has been attacked"

Liar.

The Russian meddling in the 2016 election was minor at best and something they have been doing for decades.

No legitimate person has said that the Russian meddling had any effect except to send the lefties into a political temper-tantrum.

One of your leading idiots Michael Moore was suckered into attending an anti-Trump rally in NYC sponsored by Russians on the same day a pro-Trump rally, sponsored by the Russians, was held in NYC.

Solid measures to curtail foreign meddling on our elections since President Trump started.
Informed people know this.
Informed is something you are not.







Why would congress bother with new sanctions when the Trump administration wouldn't follow through enforcing the old ones. Trump is just thumbing his nose up at congress and the American people. Instead of enforcing sanctions on Russia he provides them with top secret intelligence. Trump is nothing if not bold. It's obvious to anyone with a brain that Russia has something on him. You just can't see it due to your unconditional love for the man.



Your " Trump administration wouldn't follow through enforcing the old ones." is a lie.



No it's not.


Muleman1994 - 3/8/2018 at 11:23 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
The Trump administration is taking actions to prevent Russia from meddling in our elections. Try paying attention to actual news.


I'd be interested in hearing what actions the Trump administration are taking to prevent Russia from meddling in out elections. Please enlighten us. Thanks.



Well covered by legitimate news organizations and even WAPO.
Congress is currently working on new sanctions and the appropriate intelligence agencies are making changes to thwart Russian meddling.

Since the corrupt liberal media owns you the facts are unknown to you.



The Trump administration hasn't enforced the last set of sanctions congress passed overwhelmingly, nor have they spent a dime of the $120 million congress set aside to prevent a repeat.

Your answer is a joke. Clearly Trump doesn't care about the Russian meddling, and his supporters don't care either. American democracy has been attacked, and you and Trump don't seem to care.



"American democracy has been attacked"

Liar.

The Russian meddling in the 2016 election was minor at best and something they have been doing for decades.

No legitimate person has said that the Russian meddling had any effect except to send the lefties into a political temper-tantrum.

One of your leading idiots Michael Moore was suckered into attending an anti-Trump rally in NYC sponsored by Russians on the same day a pro-Trump rally, sponsored by the Russians, was held in NYC.

Solid measures to curtail foreign meddling on our elections since President Trump started.
Informed people know this.
Informed is something you are not.







Why would congress bother with new sanctions when the Trump administration wouldn't follow through enforcing the old ones. Trump is just thumbing his nose up at congress and the American people. Instead of enforcing sanctions on Russia he provides them with top secret intelligence. Trump is nothing if not bold. It's obvious to anyone with a brain that Russia has something on him. You just can't see it due to your unconditional love for the man.



Your " Trump administration wouldn't follow through enforcing the old ones." is a lie.



No it's not.



Fact son.

And it was Obama who was repeatedly told by the intelligence agencies that Russia was trying to meddle in the election back in 2014 and did nothing.

Your candidate Hillary Clinton colluded with the Russians to personally profit and win the election.


Sang - 3/8/2018 at 11:58 PM

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Your candidate Hillary Clinton colluded with the Russians to personally profit and win the election.





Repeating a lie over and over doesn't make it true..... except in Trump's book.....


2112 - 3/9/2018 at 12:45 AM

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Your candidate Hillary Clinton colluded with the Russians to personally profit and win the election.





Repeating a lie over and over doesn't make it true..... except in Trump's book.....


It works among the Trump supporters. Tell them any stupid lie and next thing you know Hillary is operating a pedophile ring in a pizza restaurant. No lie is stupid enough for them to believe. Trumpanzees fall for every lie in the book, and Trump is the King of Lies. Mule is rather unique in that he both falls for all of the lies AND he makes up his own.


BoytonBrother - 3/9/2018 at 01:19 AM

I can't believe Trump isn't doing anything about being illegally wiretapped by Obama. You'd think he'd do something.


Muleman1994 - 3/9/2018 at 01:25 AM

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I can't believe Trump isn't doing anything about being illegally wiretapped by Obama. You'd think he'd do something.


That investigation has been ongoing and will be part of the DOJs IG report.
You should try to keep up with actual news.


jkeller - 3/9/2018 at 03:00 AM

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quote:
I can't believe Trump isn't doing anything about being illegally wiretapped by Obama. You'd think he'd do something.


That investigation has been ongoing and will be part of the DOJs IG report.
You should try to keep up with actual news.



There is no investigation. There was no wiretapping. Trump is a liar.


Muleman1994 - 3/9/2018 at 07:04 PM

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quote:
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I can't believe Trump isn't doing anything about being illegally wiretapped by Obama. You'd think he'd do something.


That investigation has been ongoing and will be part of the DOJs IG report.
You should try to keep up with actual news.



There is no investigation. There was no wiretapping. Trump is a liar.



Remain ignorant.

You have repeatedly proven you are incapable of sourcing factual data and we see you are maintaining that status.


Sang - 3/9/2018 at 07:26 PM

quote:
quote:
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Your candidate Hillary Clinton colluded with the Russians to personally profit and win the election.





Repeating a lie over and over doesn't make it true..... except in Trump's book.....


It works among the Trump supporters. Tell them any stupid lie and next thing you know Hillary is operating a pedophile ring in a pizza restaurant. No lie is stupid enough for them to believe. Trumpanzees fall for every lie in the book, and Trump is the King of Lies. Mule is rather unique in that he both falls for all of the lies AND he makes up his own.




You're giving him too much credit - I'm sure they come from a troll farm somewhere......


BrerRabbit - 3/9/2018 at 07:31 PM

Really seems like we have our very own russian troll. Probably doesn't get scared when he poops red, that always happens when you eat borscht.

Or maybe he's a Moonie.


Muleman1994 - 3/9/2018 at 11:08 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:

Your candidate Hillary Clinton colluded with the Russians to personally profit and win the election.





Repeating a lie over and over doesn't make it true..... except in Trump's book.....


It works among the Trump supporters. Tell them any stupid lie and next thing you know Hillary is operating a pedophile ring in a pizza restaurant. No lie is stupid enough for them to believe. Trumpanzees fall for every lie in the book, and Trump is the King of Lies. Mule is rather unique in that he both falls for all of the lies AND he makes up his own.




You're giving him too much credit - I'm sure they come from a troll farm somewhere......



President Trump is still kicking left wing a$$ and you can't handle it.

"a troll farm somewhere."

Post the link junior. We would love to see the source of you bullsheet.


Sang - 3/9/2018 at 11:34 PM

Sorry, I'm not going to do the work for someone like you. I'm sure with just a little research you can find it.


jkeller - 3/10/2018 at 12:04 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:

Your candidate Hillary Clinton colluded with the Russians to personally profit and win the election.





Repeating a lie over and over doesn't make it true..... except in Trump's book.....


It works among the Trump supporters. Tell them any stupid lie and next thing you know Hillary is operating a pedophile ring in a pizza restaurant. No lie is stupid enough for them to believe. Trumpanzees fall for every lie in the book, and Trump is the King of Lies. Mule is rather unique in that he both falls for all of the lies AND he makes up his own.




You're giving him too much credit - I'm sure they come from a troll farm somewhere......



President Trump is still kicking left wing a$$ and you can't handle it.

"a troll farm somewhere."

Post the link junior. We would love to see the source of you bullsheet.



We aren’t going to do your research for you. Isn’t that what you always say?


Muleman1994 - 3/10/2018 at 01:34 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:

Your candidate Hillary Clinton colluded with the Russians to personally profit and win the election.





Repeating a lie over and over doesn't make it true..... except in Trump's book.....


It works among the Trump supporters. Tell them any stupid lie and next thing you know Hillary is operating a pedophile ring in a pizza restaurant. No lie is stupid enough for them to believe. Trumpanzees fall for every lie in the book, and Trump is the King of Lies. Mule is rather unique in that he both falls for all of the lies AND he makes up his own.




You're giving him too much credit - I'm sure they come from a troll farm somewhere......



President Trump is still kicking left wing a$$ and you can't handle it.

"a troll farm somewhere."

Post the link junior. We would love to see the source of you bullsheet.



We aren’t going to do your research for you. Isn’t that what you always say?



So you cannot answer the question either.


Sang - 3/10/2018 at 01:39 AM

I didn't see a question......


Muleman1994 - 3/10/2018 at 04:50 PM

Susan Rice reportedly told the White House cyber team to 'knock it off' when they floated options to combat Russian meddling
www.businessinsider.com

• Former President Barack Obama's cyber response team reportedly wanted to strike back hard at Russia when they first learned of its election meddling in the summer of 2016.

• But as they began floating options on how to respond, then-national security adviser Susan Rice allegedly told them to stand down and "knock it off."

• A source familiar with the matter did not contest the characterization, but said the Obama administration "timed its response so as to not provoke the Russians into materially affecting the outcome of the election."

In the summer of 2016, while the US intelligence community was just beginning to grasp the magnitude of Russia's attack on the 2016 election, Obama administration officials were torn over how to respond.

According to investigative reporters Michael Isikoff's and David Corn's new book, "Russian Roulette: The Inside Story of Putin's War on America and the Election of Donald Trump," the White House director of cybersecurity, Michael Daniel, was particularly concerned when he learned in June that Russian actors had infiltrated critical election infrastructure in several US states.

The attacks began occurring so often, an excerpt from the book on Yahoo News said, that a National Security Council staffer began regularly updating Daniel about them.

"Michael, five more states got popped," the staffer once said, according to the book. At one point, Daniel reportedly replied to the staffer, "It's starting to look like every single state has been targeted."

Obama administration officials did not believe the Russians had the technological savvy to manipulate the vote count. Rather, they were more concerned hackers could alter voter rolls, registration files, or other processes that could sow doubt about the legitimacy of the election as a whole.

Bloomberg reported last June that election systems in as many as 39 states could have been attacked, though voting tallies were not believed to have been altered or manipulated in any way.
"In Illinois, investigators found evidence that cyber intruders tried to delete or alter voter data," Bloomberg said. "The hackers accessed software designed to be used by poll workers on Election Day, and in at least one state accessed a campaign finance database."

As evidence of Russian cyberactivity targeting the US election emerged, Daniel and Celeste Wallander, the top Russia analyst on the National Security Council, pushed for the US to strike back at Russia, and hard.

"I wanted to send a signal that we would not tolerate disruptions to our electoral process," Daniel said, according to the book. "The Russians are going to push as hard as they can until we start pushing back."

Daniel and Wallander then laid out a number of aggressive options, including targeting the Russian intelligence community and Russia-linked actors through a string of NSA-backed cyberattacks; leaking classified intelligence revealing the financial activities of Putin and his family members; and announcing a joint US-NATO "cyber exercise" to make clear to Russia that the US and the West was capable of crippling the entire country.

But when then-national security adviser Susan Rice learned of Daniel's plans, she called him into her office and told him to cease his operations.

"Don't get ahead of us," Rice reportedly said, and added that the cyber response team needed to stand down and "knock it off."

When Daniel later went back to his office, the book said, he told his aides, "That was one pissed-off national security adviser."

The staffers on Daniel's cyber response team were baffled when he informed them that they had been told to stand down. When they asked the cybersecurity director why they weren't taking action, Daniel reportedly told them Rice and the homeland security adviser, Lisa Monaco, were concerned that then-President Barack Obama would be "boxed in" if news of their deliberations leaked to the press.

A source familiar with the matter did not contest the characterization, but said the Obama administration "timed its response so as to not provoke the Russians into materially affecting the outcome of the election."

The White House's internal struggle over how to address Russia's election meddling has been well documented. Last year, The Washington Post reported that when they were faced with the question of how best to respond to Russia's meddling, one senior official told the outlet, "I feel like we sort of choked."

Intelligence officials said initially that they could not respond until they had a clearer picture of the scale and scope of Russia's interference. And when it came time to respond, The Post reported, Obama decided to retaliate after the election to avoid appearing as though the White House was putting its thumb on the scale in favor of Hillary Clinton, then the Democratic presidential nominee.

http://www.businessinsider.com/susan-rice-told-white-house-cyber-team-to-kn ock-it-off-on-combatting-russian-meddling-2018-3





BrerRabbit - 3/10/2018 at 06:57 PM

Troll farm m.o. . . . troll farm-serf activates thread, engages attention in trivial hostile banter for a few posts,to focus attention towards troll, then troll posts huge propaganda piece.

He is a pro, folks


BrerRabbit - 3/11/2018 at 03:42 PM

Hahaha, couldn't help noticing you didn't want to touch this thread again, best to let the "russian troll" stuff drop off the page, right? Probably taught you that on day one at troll farm orientation.

At least one of the many questions you never answered is solved, what do you do in agriculture:

You are a Troll Farm Serf, happily working on the grand digital estate of Cyberia.


BoytonBrother - 3/12/2018 at 06:14 PM

I’m just happy that Obama’s decision to wiretap led to the Russian indictments. Great job Obama.


Muleman1994 - 3/12/2018 at 07:36 PM

quote:
Hahaha, couldn't help noticing you didn't want to touch this thread again, best to let the "russian troll" stuff drop off the page, right? Probably taught you that on day one at troll farm orientation.

At least one of the many questions you never answered is solved, what do you do in agriculture:

You are a Troll Farm Serf, happily working on the grand digital estate of Cyberia.




I see you, a racist, is still controlled by your hate.
Maybe it is time for you to contact the California Klan Grand Wizard that endorsed Hillary Clinton.



BoytonBrother - 3/12/2018 at 08:20 PM

I’m just happy that Obama’s decision to wiretap led to the Russian indictments. Great job Obama.


BrerRabbit - 3/13/2018 at 12:14 AM

quote:
I see you, a racist, is still controlled by your hate.
Maybe it is time for you to contact the California Klan Grand Wizard that endorsed Hillary Clinton.


Serf's up! So, hey, weather's getting nice enough to go enjoy some sauerkraut and bratwurst at the George Lincoln Rockwell picnic pavilion in Upton Hill Regional Park. Munch some 'kraut and think about yer ol pal George?


BoytonBrother - 3/13/2018 at 01:42 AM

I read all of Mule’s posts in Ivan Drago’s voice.....”I will break you”


BrerRabbit - 3/13/2018 at 01:54 AM

HAHAHAHAA that's been happening to me too, something about the relentless hostile monotone works perfect for Russian, especially words like "trash" and the fake John Wayne crap "son" "junior".

[Edited on 3/13/2018 by BrerRabbit]


2112 - 3/13/2018 at 10:22 PM

So, Rex Tillerson accuses Russia of poisoning a UK spy with a nerve agent, and Trump promptly fires him. Just a coincidence I'm sure. Nothing to see here.


MartinD28 - 3/14/2018 at 12:43 AM

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So, Rex Tillerson accuses Russia of poisoning a UK spy with a nerve agent, and Trump promptly fires him. Just a coincidence I'm sure. Nothing to see here.


Rex learned a tough lesson. Don't f with Trump's benefactor and support system.


Muleman1994 - 3/14/2018 at 07:35 PM

quote:
quote:
So, Rex Tillerson accuses Russia of poisoning a UK spy with a nerve agent, and Trump promptly fires him. Just a coincidence I'm sure. Nothing to see here.


Rex learned a tough lesson. Don't f with Trump's benefactor and support system.



Obviously Tillerson did not learn the most important lesson.
You work for The President.
Execute The President's wishes or you will, and did, get fired.


jkeller - 3/14/2018 at 08:44 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
So, Rex Tillerson accuses Russia of poisoning a UK spy with a nerve agent, and Trump promptly fires him. Just a coincidence I'm sure. Nothing to see here.


Rex learned a tough lesson. Don't f with Trump's benefactor and support system.



Obviously Tillerson did not learn the most important lesson.
You work for The President.
Execute The President's wishes or you will, and did, get fired.



Actually, that is not quite true. It is Tillerson's job to, among other things, advise the president on affairs that his department is involved in. Trump can listen or ignore and of course he can fire the person. But firing in this instance is nothing more than throwing a petty snit. The same thing may happen with McCabe. A childish tantrum.


Muleman1994 - 3/14/2018 at 08:50 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
So, Rex Tillerson accuses Russia of poisoning a UK spy with a nerve agent, and Trump promptly fires him. Just a coincidence I'm sure. Nothing to see here.


Rex learned a tough lesson. Don't f with Trump's benefactor and support system.



Obviously Tillerson did not learn the most important lesson.
You work for The President.
Execute The President's wishes or you will, and did, get fired.



Actually, that is not quite true. It is Tillerson's job to, among other things, advise the president on affairs that his department is involved in. Trump can listen or ignore and of course he can fire the person. But firing in this instance is nothing more than throwing a petty snit. The same thing may happen with McCabe. A childish tantrum.



Tillerson failed to follow The President's direction and was fired for exactly that.
McCabe will likely be fired for corruption.


jkeller - 3/14/2018 at 08:51 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
So, Rex Tillerson accuses Russia of poisoning a UK spy with a nerve agent, and Trump promptly fires him. Just a coincidence I'm sure. Nothing to see here.


Rex learned a tough lesson. Don't f with Trump's benefactor and support system.



Obviously Tillerson did not learn the most important lesson.
You work for The President.
Execute The President's wishes or you will, and did, get fired.



Actually, that is not quite true. It is Tillerson's job to, among other things, advise the president on affairs that his department is involved in. Trump can listen or ignore and of course he can fire the person. But firing in this instance is nothing more than throwing a petty snit. The same thing may happen with McCabe. A childish tantrum.



Tillerson failed to follow The President's direction and was fired for exactly that.
McCabe will likely be fired for corruption.



And soon enough, so will Trump.


Muleman1994 - 3/14/2018 at 09:00 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
So, Rex Tillerson accuses Russia of poisoning a UK spy with a nerve agent, and Trump promptly fires him. Just a coincidence I'm sure. Nothing to see here.


Rex learned a tough lesson. Don't f with Trump's benefactor and support system.



Obviously Tillerson did not learn the most important lesson.
You work for The President.
Execute The President's wishes or you will, and did, get fired.



Actually, that is not quite true. It is Tillerson's job to, among other things, advise the president on affairs that his department is involved in. Trump can listen or ignore and of course he can fire the person. But firing in this instance is nothing more than throwing a petty snit. The same thing may happen with McCabe. A childish tantrum.



Tillerson failed to follow The President's direction and was fired for exactly that.
McCabe will likely be fired for corruption.



And soon enough, so will Trump.



“no evidence of collusion, coordination or conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russians”


jkeller - 3/14/2018 at 09:20 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
So, Rex Tillerson accuses Russia of poisoning a UK spy with a nerve agent, and Trump promptly fires him. Just a coincidence I'm sure. Nothing to see here.


Rex learned a tough lesson. Don't f with Trump's benefactor and support system.



Obviously Tillerson did not learn the most important lesson.
You work for The President.
Execute The President's wishes or you will, and did, get fired.



Actually, that is not quite true. It is Tillerson's job to, among other things, advise the president on affairs that his department is involved in. Trump can listen or ignore and of course he can fire the person. But firing in this instance is nothing more than throwing a petty snit. The same thing may happen with McCabe. A childish tantrum.



Tillerson failed to follow The President's direction and was fired for exactly that.
McCabe will likely be fired for corruption.



And soon enough, so will Trump.



“no evidence of collusion, coordination or conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russians”




Yeah, they came to that conclusion without interviewing people like Manafort and Flynn. And Kushner refused to answer questions and Nunes gave no push back. That's OK, Mueller has testimony, documents and Trump's tax returns.


BoytonBrother - 3/20/2018 at 07:46 PM

quote:
no evidence of collusion, coordination or conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russians


Point?


Muleman1994 - 3/20/2018 at 11:37 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
So, Rex Tillerson accuses Russia of poisoning a UK spy with a nerve agent, and Trump promptly fires him. Just a coincidence I'm sure. Nothing to see here.


Rex learned a tough lesson. Don't f with Trump's benefactor and support system.



Obviously Tillerson did not learn the most important lesson.
You work for The President.
Execute The President's wishes or you will, and did, get fired.



Actually, that is not quite true. It is Tillerson's job to, among other things, advise the president on affairs that his department is involved in. Trump can listen or ignore and of course he can fire the person. But firing in this instance is nothing more than throwing a petty snit. The same thing may happen with McCabe. A childish tantrum.



Tillerson failed to follow The President's direction and was fired for exactly that.
McCabe will likely be fired for corruption.



And soon enough, so will Trump.



“no evidence of collusion, coordination or conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russians”




Yeah, they came to that conclusion without interviewing people like Manafort and Flynn. And Kushner refused to answer questions and Nunes gave no push back. That's OK, Mueller has testimony, documents and Trump's tax returns.



The Intelligence Committee interviewed hundreds of people and obtained and reviewed tens of thousand of documents. Those facts were confirmed by the Democrats on the committee.

Why did they not interview Manafort and Flynn?

Informed people know the obvious answer.





2112 - 3/20/2018 at 11:54 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
So, Rex Tillerson accuses Russia of poisoning a UK spy with a nerve agent, and Trump promptly fires him. Just a coincidence I'm sure. Nothing to see here.


Rex learned a tough lesson. Don't f with Trump's benefactor and support system.



Obviously Tillerson did not learn the most important lesson.
You work for The President.
Execute The President's wishes or you will, and did, get fired.



Actually, that is not quite true. It is Tillerson's job to, among other things, advise the president on affairs that his department is involved in. Trump can listen or ignore and of course he can fire the person. But firing in this instance is nothing more than throwing a petty snit. The same thing may happen with McCabe. A childish tantrum.



Tillerson failed to follow The President's direction and was fired for exactly that.
McCabe will likely be fired for corruption.



And soon enough, so will Trump.



“no evidence of collusion, coordination or conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russians”




Yeah, they came to that conclusion without interviewing people like Manafort and Flynn. And Kushner refused to answer questions and Nunes gave no push back. That's OK, Mueller has testimony, documents and Trump's tax returns.



The Intelligence Committee interviewed hundreds of people and obtained and reviewed tens of thousand of documents. Those facts were confirmed by the Democrats on the committee.

Why did they not interview Manafort and Flynn?

Informed people know the obvious answer.




As a Republican member of the committee Tom Rooney stated, they had no credibility. Might as well wrap it up if a REPUBLICAN on the committee says you have no credibility. Might as well let the other investigations that do have credibility finish the work. Rooney also stated that the Russians did in fact attempt to help Trump during his campaign. The house committee was always a joke. Nunes was nothing but a Trump fanboy, so it was obvious he wasn't going to run an investigation that had any chance of actually finding anything.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/house-intel-republican-on-committee s-russia-investigation-weve-lost-all-credibility


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So, Rex Tillerson accuses Russia of poisoning a UK spy with a nerve agent, and Trump promptly fires him. Just a coincidence I'm sure. Nothing to see here.


Rex learned a tough lesson. Don't f with Trump's benefactor and support system.



Obviously Tillerson did not learn the most important lesson.
You work for The President.
Execute The President's wishes or you will, and did, get fired.



Actually, that is not quite true. It is Tillerson's job to, among other things, advise the president on affairs that his department is involved in. Trump can listen or ignore and of course he can fire the person. But firing in this instance is nothing more than throwing a petty snit. The same thing may happen with McCabe. A childish tantrum.



Tillerson failed to follow The President's direction and was fired for exactly that.
McCabe will likely be fired for corruption.



And soon enough, so will Trump.



“no evidence of collusion, coordination or conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russians”




Yeah, they came to that conclusion without interviewing people like Manafort and Flynn. And Kushner refused to answer questions and Nunes gave no push back. That's OK, Mueller has testimony, documents and Trump's tax returns.



The Intelligence Committee interviewed hundreds of people and obtained and reviewed tens of thousand of documents. Those facts were confirmed by the Democrats on the committee.

Why did they not interview Manafort and Flynn?

Informed people know the obvious answer.







Yeah, well, informed people put up links.

You pull stuff out of your butt.


Let me help. Manafort and Flynn were indicted in the Federal probe. Flynn took a plea deal. They have ties to Russia. They should have been questioned.

Hope that helps, but I doubt that you are interested in learning facts.


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