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  posted on 9/22/2009 at 10:55 AM
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Jesus get a load of the rack on this beast it looks like a moose almost


[Edited on 9/22/2009 by Peachypetewi]

 

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  posted on 9/22/2009 at 11:16 AM
Nice rack!

 

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  posted on 9/22/2009 at 11:20 AM
I think I'da let it walk on by. Hell of a rack though for certain.

 

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  posted on 9/22/2009 at 11:25 AM
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I think I'da let it walk on by. Hell of a rack though for certain.


I'm actually with you on that. I'd feel kind of bad taking out a magnificent beast like that. I'm much more of a meat hunter then a trophy hunter and that venison is probably not going to taste so good.

 

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I think I'da let it walk on by. Hell of a rack though for certain.


I'm actually with you on that. I'd feel kind of bad taking out a magnificent beast like that. I'm much more of a meat hunter then a trophy hunter and that venison is probably not going to taste so good.


I disagree.

Bad tasting meat has more to do with how the deer was handled than how old it was.

Diet also makes a huge difference.

 

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  posted on 9/22/2009 at 11:42 AM
You could make a nice ceiling light out of that rack.
 

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  posted on 9/22/2009 at 11:59 AM
Its a damn shame - not something to be proud of unless the animal was packing heat

 

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  posted on 9/22/2009 at 12:16 PM
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They got some big deer up there in Wisconsin... my wife has a few trophies from up there and they make the trophies from Florida and Alabama look like little babies.
Midwestern deer eat a lot of corn. Corn is not as a big crop in the south as it is in the midwest.

 

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  posted on 9/22/2009 at 12:42 PM
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Its a damn shame - not something to be proud of unless the animal was packing heat


Or it could get so big, old and frail that it has a slow death due to starvation eventually.



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I think I'da let it walk on by. Hell of a rack though for certain.


I'm actually with you on that. I'd feel kind of bad taking out a magnificent beast like that. I'm much more of a meat hunter then a trophy hunter and that venison is probably not going to taste so good.


I disagree.

Bad tasting meat has more to do with how the deer was handled than how old it was.

Diet also makes a huge difference.


It doesn't matter all things being equal (diet, speed of gutting,skinning and hanging time) I'll take a 2 year old doe over a 4 or 5 year old buck any day.

 

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  posted on 9/22/2009 at 01:01 PM
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Its a damn shame - not something to be proud of unless the animal was packing heat


You might think differently if you've ever seen deer herded up in winter with 4 feet of snow on the gound and starving to death.

 

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  posted on 9/22/2009 at 01:39 PM
That is something you should be proud of. Anyone who takes to the woods to
challenge an animal like the whitetail deer with a bow deserves all the credit for
a trophy like that. Awesome. Truly a great accomplishment.
We have some nice size deer in 'Bama...but that big boy must have some good genes...
I'm sure he spread 'em around. Hope I can do half that good this year!

 

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  posted on 9/22/2009 at 01:45 PM
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The fact that it took off for 50 or 60 yards ain't gonna help much...


I know nothing of hunting . . . why would the fact that he ran off make a difference on how he tastes?

 

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The fact that it took off for 50 or 60 yards ain't gonna help much...


I know nothing of hunting . . . why would the fact that he ran off make a difference on how he tastes?


Not sure this has ever been proven but the theory goes he's got adrenilin in his system from running and the meat will be tainted, as opposed to a clean shot where the deer just drops in it's tracks. Again I have no idea if it is based on any science or just old deer hunting folk lore.

 

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Or it could get so big, old and frail that it has a slow death due to starvation eventually.



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You might think differently if you've ever seen deer herded up in winter with 4 feet of snow on the gound and starving to death.




Correct again. There are nature lovers, and then there are those that understand what nature is about. Deer are over-populated and when that happens disease and slow death happens. The main predators installed by NATURE are not there as they were intended to be to control the population. Much as ponds that don't have enough predator fish causes the other fish species to runt out, meaning too many fish going for the same finite amount of food which makes all of them smaller and prone to disease and weakness, the same goes for deer.

Congrats to Wayne Schumacher on a heck of a pumphouse disconnect bow shot on this Upper Heartland corn-fed monster. I'm guessing the Matthews company will set him up nicely. Non-typical 250-plus scores are crazy. Not as many points as the famed 33-point Amish Buck taken an hour from where I am in southern Ohio, but this one will probably surpass it due to the wild non-typical features.

This deer is already 4 to 5 years old, is already a grandpa and isn't going to live all that much longer anyway. Its gene pool has been secured at this point. Better to have it literally tortured and its back straps ripped off of it while still possibly alive by a pack of coyotes?? Or the Wisconsin wintertime scenario described above?? With this buck being as old as it is, harvesting him will make room for the younger bucks who will not be run off but will procreate like crazy. Depending on the area, state DNRs are increasing the amount of deer to be hunted in recent years because it makes the herds healthier. Good for Wisconsin.



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For taste, the younger the better, diet also being crucial. A 7 year old buck, even fed with corn is going to be gamey no matter if it runs or not; also whether it's properly cleaned, hung and aged doesn't matter much when they are old. Deer are like beef in that respect.
I shoot an average of 4 deer a year in NW Minnesota. Fed on corn and acorns, they are fabulous. They are also quite large by comparison to southern deer. This is because it requires more body mass in mammals to get through our winters.
A deer of that size and age has passed his genetics on too many times to count. When they get that big, they won't be around much longer simply due to lifespan, competition and the fact that as they age, their teeth wear down to nothing.

 

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  posted on 9/22/2009 at 03:24 PM
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I think I'da let it walk on by. Hell of a rack though for certain.



Me too. I don't have the heart to kill something so beautiful. I'd rather take a photo. I have no problem with hunting though as long as they are using what they shoot for food. I think trophy or sport hunters who don't eat what they kill are just basically cowards.

 

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  posted on 9/22/2009 at 03:47 PM
I find this reprehensible to say the least.
Imagine how that poor animal suffered being hit with an arrow.
If he had to kill him, why couldn't just shoot him and be done with it.
Big brave man with a bow and arrow. I am so unimpressed.

 

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  posted on 9/22/2009 at 04:04 PM
Nice!

 

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I find this reprehensible to say the least.
Imagine how that poor animal suffered being hit with an arrow.
If he had to kill him, why couldn't just shoot him and be done with it.
Big brave man with a bow and arrow. I am so unimpressed.


My suggestion to you is stay out of the state of Wisconsin from Nov.21-29th. You will just get more upset. Deer hunting is a deeply engrained way of life up here. Here PETA stands for People Eating Tasty Animals.

 

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I find this reprehensible to say the least.
Imagine how that poor animal suffered being hit with an arrow.
If he had to kill him, why couldn't just shoot him and be done with it.
Big brave man with a bow and arrow. I am so unimpressed.


Because firearms season doesn't open for a month and a half. It's bow season now.

 

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  posted on 9/22/2009 at 05:06 PM
A bow killed deer also yields more usable meat.

Our deer in CNY are eat corn, alfalfa, apples, soybeens (the plant).

Just as tender as can be.

The comment about running off 60-70 yards, that probably was a bit of a stretch.

Generally when the deer is shot it may bolt off 30 yards or so, then try to find a place to lay down.

My father shot one that never knew it was hit, it stood there grazing and then just fell down.

Until you've actually tried to shoot a bow, you have no idea how hard it is, especially from ten feet up in a tree while trying not to spook the animal.

 

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With this buck being as old as it is, harvesting him will make room for the younger bucks who will not be run off but will procreate like crazy.



The best way to ensure the younger bucks stay in the area is for those bucks' mothers to be killed.

A doe will run off her buck fawn when it gets a year old so it won't breed with female siblings.

You want that to happen if you're trying to establish a Quality Deer Management program.

Keep those good genes all in the family.

 

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  posted on 9/22/2009 at 05:14 PM
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I find this reprehensible to say the least.
Imagine how that poor animal suffered being hit with an arrow.
If he had to kill him, why couldn't just shoot him and be done with it.
Big brave man with a bow and arrow. I am so unimpressed.


My suggestion to you is stay out of the state of Wisconsin from Nov.21-29th. You will just get more upset. Deer hunting is a deeply engrained way of life up here. Here PETA stands for People Eating Tasty Animals.


Deer hunting is a deeply ingrained way of life in the rural South where I grew up.
At that time it could be more neccesity than sport. I do not support PETA, for you information,
nor did I mention it. I do not object to hunting, just don't make the animal suffer as this one surely did.

If the rest of the people in Wisconsin are ass**** like you, I'll be happy to drive
around it. But I do know some very decent people from Wisconsin.

My advice to you is read a post more carefully if you are going
to respond in such a smartass manner.

 

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  posted on 9/22/2009 at 07:46 PM
The single biggest thing that effects the taste of a Big Buck is the RUT and if he is in full blown rut he may taste like a uncasterated hog or in other words like a big turd.. but if not in the rut he may be just alot of good tasting venison..

Of course this is assuming it was well cared for after the kill... and indeed it is a nice rack but you can't eat horns but they are fun to drink over..

And any deer taken with a bow is a trophy...

 

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