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  posted on 9/14/2009 at 01:48 PM
It looks like BarryO's brother in the revolution, Chavez, isn't anymore afraid of Washington now than is Ahmadinejad. BarryO, Putin, Ahmadinejad and Chavez all appear to be working toward a common goal: the destruction of the United States of America.

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Sept. 13 (Bloomberg) -- Venezuela President Hugo Chavez said the South American country plans to develop a nuclear energy program with Russia and doesn’t want to build an atomic bomb.

Chavez said that the country’s oil and gas reserves won’t last forever and the government will seek alternative energy sources. Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin agreed to help Venezuela’s nuclear energy program during a meeting in Moscow last week, Chavez said.

“We’re not going to make an atomic bomb, so don’t bother us like with Iran,” he said on state television. “We’re going to develop nuclear energy with peaceful purposes.”

Chavez is a close ally of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who’s under international sanctions for continuing with the country’s nuclear energy program under suspicions by the U.S. and its allies that Iran is working toward making atomic weapons.

 

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  posted on 9/14/2009 at 02:11 PM
Other countries have nuclear energy. Why shouldn't Venezuela? It is one of the energy sources of the future, from what I keep hearing.

What are you afraid of?

 

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  posted on 9/14/2009 at 02:17 PM
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It looks like BarryO's brother in the revolution, Chavez, isn't anymore afraid of Washington now than is Ahmadinejad. BarryO, Putin, Ahmadinejad and Chavez all appear to be working toward a common goal: the destruction of the United States of America.

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  posted on 9/14/2009 at 03:52 PM
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Other countries have nuclear energy. Why shouldn't Venezuela? It is one of the energy sources of the future, from what I keep hearing.



Agreed. So why won't the environmentalists, joined at the hip with their democrat allies, let us build more of them? Could it be they don't have the best interests of our country at heart?

 

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  posted on 9/14/2009 at 04:00 PM
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Other countries have nuclear energy. Why shouldn't Venezuela? It is one of the energy sources of the future, from what I keep hearing.



Agreed. So why won't the environmentalists, joined at the hip with their democrat allies, let us build more of them? Could it be they don't have the best interests of our country at heart?


Well, if you agree, then why are you whining?

 

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  posted on 9/14/2009 at 04:00 PM
The only thing that is stopping anybody from building them is the enormous cost - not environmentalists or democrats. With deregulation, utilities can't just build them and pass on the costs to ratepayers. Right now, even partnerships between many large companies can't afford to build them. But I'm sure you knew that before you made your 'snarky' comment and blamed it on 'those darn pesky democrats'.

 

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  posted on 9/14/2009 at 04:31 PM
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The only thing that is stopping anybody from building them is the enormous cost - not environmentalists or democrats.


Bullsh-t. What costs more? Nuclear power which we KNOW works now or solar and wind-powered pipe-dreams that might work in forty years?

 

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Other countries have nuclear energy. Why shouldn't Venezuela? It is one of the energy sources of the future, from what I keep hearing.



Agreed. So why won't the environmentalists, joined at the hip with their democrat allies, let us build more of them? Could it be they don't have the best interests of our country at heart?


Well, if you agree, then why are you whining?


TROLLING

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  posted on 9/14/2009 at 04:42 PM
Bullsh!t yourself. Try doing some research

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2009/01/nuclear_power.html

http://climateprogress.org/2009/01/05/study-cost-risks-new-nuclear-power-pl ants/

http://www.energyeconomyonline.com/Nuclear_Costs.html

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/jan/15/bz-nuclear-costs-explode/



[Edited on 9/14/2009 by Sang]

 

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The only thing that is stopping anybody from building them is the enormous cost - not environmentalists or democrats.


Bullsh-t. What costs more? Nuclear power which we KNOW works now or solar and wind-powered pipe-dreams that might work in forty years?


the Europeans are building a fusion reactor, rather than fission. that 's the future of nuclear power.

 

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  posted on 9/14/2009 at 04:57 PM
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Bullsh!t yourself. Try doing some research

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2009/01/nuclear_power.html

http://climateprogress.org/2009/01/05/study-cost-risks-new-nuclear-power-pl ants/

http://www.energyeconomyonline.com/Nuclear_Costs.html

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/jan/15/bz-nuclear-costs-explode/



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OK, I read your missives including the two with "progress," (i.e "progressive" i.e, "liberal") in the addresses and the one that had this on its front page:

Enabling Wind, Sun To Be Our Main Power Supplies
Quest for Storage -- "Holy Grail" of New Energy Economy -- Nears Goal

Forgive me if I'm not impressed with the full scope of your research. To reiterate: What costs more? Nuclear power which we KNOW works now or solar and wind-powered pipe-dreams that might work in forty years?

 

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  posted on 9/14/2009 at 06:22 PM
Maybe you should work on your reading skills - they aren't going to build plants with the "old" technology - they are investigating various new types of reactors and designs. I only gave you the first 4 links that came up - there are plenty more. I just hate doing your research for you.

I'm sure I can find many more - so what do you have that backs up your point, whatever it is?

http://www.nuclearcounterfeit.com/?p=703

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204409904574350342705855178.h tml

 

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  posted on 9/14/2009 at 06:27 PM
Folks, RBK has nothing as usual. He wont admit to anything that doesnt pour from Glen Becks mouth or nuggets of wisdom from Limbaugh.

 

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  posted on 9/14/2009 at 06:34 PM
With all the bloviating rbk does, I'm wondering whether we might not want to consider him as an energy source.

 

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What costs more? Nuclear power which we KNOW works now or solar and wind-powered pipe-dreams that might work in forty years?

 

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  posted on 9/16/2009 at 09:44 AM
Repeating the same question without backing anything up ....... and ignoring the fact that any new nuclear plant will be built with new technology ......you're really adding to the conversation. Maybe Dick Morris has something to say so you can at least post something relevant?

 

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  posted on 9/16/2009 at 10:20 AM
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Other countries have nuclear energy. Why shouldn't Venezuela? It is one of the energy sources of the future, from what I keep hearing.



Agreed. So why won't the environmentalists, joined at the hip with their democrat allies, let us build more of them? Could it be they don't have the best interests of our country at heart?


Personally, I'm all for Nuclear power. However, some environmentalists don't support it due to the extremely dirty and destructive process of mining the uranium. And uranium is getting harder and more costly to obtain. It's part of the debate that's often ignored as the discussion often centers on merely the dangers of meltdowns.

 

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The only thing that is stopping anybody from building them is the enormous cost - not environmentalists or democrats.


Bullsh-t. What costs more? Nuclear power which we KNOW works now or solar and wind-powered pipe-dreams that might work in forty years?


Welcome to the 21st century, dumbass. I just helped put solar panels on Santa Cruz High School. That happened this month, not 40 years from now.

 

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  posted on 9/16/2009 at 12:03 PM
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Other countries have nuclear energy. Why shouldn't Venezuela? It is one of the energy sources of the future, from what I keep hearing.



Agreed. So why won't the environmentalists, joined at the hip with their democrat allies, let us build more of them? Could it be they don't have the best interests of our country at heart?


Personally, I'm all for Nuclear power. However, some environmentalists don't support it due to the extremely dirty and destructive process of mining the uranium. And uranium is getting harder and more costly to obtain. It's part of the debate that's often ignored as the discussion often centers on merely the dangers of meltdowns.



Much of today's uranium comes from Russia. The impact & cost of the storage of nuclear waste also cannot be ignored. The industry has been forced to spend billions of dollars, and with Yucca Mtn out as the answer, they have to start over.

 

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Other countries have nuclear energy. Why shouldn't Venezuela? It is one of the energy sources of the future, from what I keep hearing.



Agreed. So why won't the environmentalists, joined at the hip with their democrat allies, let us build more of them? Could it be they don't have the best interests of our country at heart?


Personally, I'm all for Nuclear power. However, some environmentalists don't support it due to the extremely dirty and destructive process of mining the uranium. And uranium is getting harder and more costly to obtain. It's part of the debate that's often ignored as the discussion often centers on merely the dangers of meltdowns.



Much of today's uranium comes from Russia. The impact & cost of the storage of nuclear waste also cannot be ignored. The industry has been forced to spend billions of dollars, and with Yucca Mtn out as the answer, they have to start over.


Indeed, a few more negatives to nuclear power. I think nuclear power is a jumping stone to the day when the sun becomes are major source of power. We're getting closer to thar reality every day. But alas, still a long way to go.

 

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Other countries have nuclear energy. Why shouldn't Venezuela? It is one of the energy sources of the future, from what I keep hearing.



Agreed. So why won't the environmentalists, joined at the hip with their democrat allies, let us build more of them? Could it be they don't have the best interests of our country at heart?


Personally, I'm all for Nuclear power. However, some environmentalists don't support it due to the extremely dirty and destructive process of mining the uranium. And uranium is getting harder and more costly to obtain. It's part of the debate that's often ignored as the discussion often centers on merely the dangers of meltdowns.



Much of today's uranium comes from Russia. The impact & cost of the storage of nuclear waste also cannot be ignored. The industry has been forced to spend billions of dollars, and with Yucca Mtn out as the answer, they have to start over.


Indeed, a few more negatives to nuclear power. I think nuclear power is a jumping stone to the day when the sun becomes are major source of power. We're getting closer to thar reality every day. But alas, still a long way to go.


Not that long a ways.

Check this out:

http://www.solarcity.com/residential/solar-lease.aspx

 

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  posted on 9/16/2009 at 08:26 PM
I'm sure RBK is doing some research and will get right back to us...

 

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  posted on 9/17/2009 at 12:12 AM
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The only thing that is stopping anybody from building them is the enormous cost - not environmentalists or democrats.


Bullsh-t. What costs more? Nuclear power which we KNOW works now or solar and wind-powered pipe-dreams that might work in forty years?


I use solar power for my home electrical needs and my bill is almost zero...damned pipe dream.

 

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  posted on 9/17/2009 at 08:52 AM
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The only thing that is stopping anybody from building them is the enormous cost - not environmentalists or democrats.


Bullsh-t. What costs more? Nuclear power which we KNOW works now or solar and wind-powered pipe-dreams that might work in forty years?


Welcome to the 21st century, dumbass. I just helped put solar panels on Santa Cruz High School. That happened this month, not 40 years from now.


Congrats on being gainfully employed, hammer jockey. Are the solar panels powering the entire school? AC, lights, computers, metal detectors, phones, TVs, the whole shebang?

What costs more? Nuclear power which we KNOW works now or solar and wind-powered pipe-dreams that might work, SANS ANY AUGMENTATION FROM OTHER POWER SOURCES, in forty years?

 

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  posted on 9/17/2009 at 09:00 AM
Nobody knows what will cost more 40 years from now - most current nuclear plants will be decommissioned by then, and will be replaced by more expensive ones (if they are replaced). Nobody knows what uranium will cost 40 years from now. Nobody knows what the market price of electricity will be, and what the fuel mix will be.

Got anything else except the same question that you know can't be answered?

 

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