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  posted on 9/10/2009 at 09:24 AM
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Palin's death panel wish
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OPINION: Sarah Palin, the very same one who declared April 16, 2008 "Health Decisions Day" in Alaska to encourage more citizens to talk to their health care providers about "advanced directives," is at it again with the death panels.

Today, Palin posted on her Facebook page a letter that she was invited to write to the New York State Senate Aging Committee's hearing. In the letter, she continues the death panel meme, and offers her version of "real" reform. Here's a taste:

"...they could ultimately be used by government bureacrats (sic) to help determine the treatment of our loved ones. We must ensure that human dignity remains at the center of any proposed health care reform. Real health care reform would also follow free market principles, including the encouragement of health savings accounts; would remove the barriers to purchasing health insurance across state lines; and would include tort reform so as to potentially save billions each year in wasteful spending connected to the filing of frivolous lawsuits..."

At this point, it makes one nearly soporific to try to point to all of the groups and publications and people who have debunked the death panel myth, including our own Republican senator. But it might not hurt to mention what the "free market" leads to when health care is what's being marketed.

This week the New York Times reported that the new big idea on Wall Street is to get bankers to buy "life settlements" which are:

... life insurance policies that ill and elderly people sell for cash - $400,000 for a $1 million policy, say, depending on the life expectancy of the insured person. Then they plan to "securitize" these policies, in Wall Street jargon, by packaging hundreds or thousands together into bonds. They will then resell those bonds to investors, like big pension funds, who will receive the payouts when people with the insurance die.

The earlier the group of policyholders die, the bigger the return.

Today Reuters is reporting that from 2002 to 2009 in California, insurance companies denied more than 21 percent of health insurance claims, some of them life-saving procedures. In the first six months of this year alone, PacifiCare denied 40 percent of claims, Cigna 33 percent and the California Blues rejected 28 percent of claims.

Alaska's division of insurance doesn't keep track of such numbers, but that doesn't mean that Alaskans don't lack for stories of nightmares with insurance companies. If she chose, Palin could read some of these here.

In 2007, Palin said that providing adequate health care "is one of the most pressing domestic issues facing the United States as a nation." But as governor of Alaska, she did virtually nothing to ensure "real" or any other kind of health care reform. While she and her family had access to some of the very best health insurance available (which was tax payer funded) nearly 33 percent of her constituents-- about 200,000 residents -- were uninsured at some point in 2008, one of the highest rates in the country.

Alaska, which has one of the least restrictive insurance markets, is dominated by two insurance companies that control over 96 percent of the market. Premera Blue Cross insures about 60 percent of the market, while Aetna insures more than 30 percent. And what they offer is some of the most expensive coverage in the U.S. Between 2000 and 2007, insurance premiums in Alaska rose more than 74 percent, while wages grew 13 percent.

That's the free market working its magic with our health care. I wonder if she would hold up her own state as a model for what is in store with "real" health care reform? And if not, I wonder if it ever occurs to her that she actually had the chance to do real work on health care, as other governors have, before she quit and began her job as a Facebook pundit.

http://alaskadispatch.com/blogs/palin-watch/1850-palins-death-panel-wish-




I think Sarah should keep commenting on this and other issues as much as possible.

[Edited on 9/10/2009 by Bhawk]

 

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  posted on 9/10/2009 at 09:31 AM
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You see her op-ed in the WSJ the other day?

I was under the impression that the death panels thing was a one-time stupid comment. I had no idea she was still trying to sell it...


Note that she actually made a "Health Decisions Day" in Alaska for her then-constituents to go and address end of life planning, which is the very thing she labelled a death panel to begin with.

 

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  posted on 9/10/2009 at 09:36 AM
between palin and rove, the WSJ has become
just a written form of Faux News.


 

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  posted on 9/10/2009 at 09:46 AM
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You see her op-ed in the WSJ the other day?

I was under the impression that the death panels thing was a one-time stupid comment. I had no idea she was still trying to sell it...


Note that she actually made a "Health Decisions Day" in Alaska for her then-constituents to go and address end of life planning, which is the very thing she labelled a death panel to begin with.


I can't decide if she is stupid or crazy to take such clearly inconsistent positions. I have a better idea about people that buy into her message (stupid).

As you article points out, we already have corporate death panels. Why gov't ones (even assuming) would be worse does not seem to get addressing.

 

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You see her op-ed in the WSJ the other day?

I was under the impression that the death panels thing was a one-time stupid comment. I had no idea she was still trying to sell it...


Note that she actually made a "Health Decisions Day" in Alaska for her then-constituents to go and address end of life planning, which is the very thing she labelled a death panel to begin with.


I can't decide if she is stupid or crazy to take such clearly inconsistent positions. I have a better idea about people that buy into her message (stupid).

As you article points out, we already have corporate death panels. Why gov't ones (even assuming) would be worse does not seem to get addressing.


Nicely articulated Brock

 

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  posted on 9/10/2009 at 06:26 PM
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I can't decide if she is stupid or crazy to take such clearly inconsistent positions.
I'm going with 'C', Alex ... all of the above...

 

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  posted on 9/10/2009 at 06:37 PM
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I'm going with 'C', Alex ... all of the above...

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LOL! I did get a kick out of the fact that she was asking $25,000 a pop to have a sit down with her and her husband "Tawd" to discuss health care. Any takers? It is for charity for wounded soldiers and is open for bidding on Ebay.

YOU ARE BIDDING ON:

DINNER FOR FIVE WITH
SARAH PALIN

Win Dinner for Five with Sarah Palin
How would you like to have dinner with Sarah Palin? This is the chance of a lifetime to experience an evening with Governor Sarah Palin.

The former Vice Presidential candidate and Governor of Alaska was selected as one of America’s “Top 10 Most Fascinating People” of 2008 for a Barbara Walters ABC special in December 2008.

Her oldest son Track enlisted in the U.S. Army on September 11, 2007, and was subsequently assigned to an infantry brigade. He and his unit deployed to Iraq in September 2008 for 12 months.

She is, quite simply, one of the most talked about people in the US, and she and Todd will sit down with you and up to four of your friends for dinner.

Value: Priceless.

Donated by: Sarah Palin.

The opening bid is $25,000.

A background check for all attendees is mandatory. Failure to pass the background check will result in the winner forfeiting the experience and a refund given. The dinner experience with Sarah Palin will take place at a site to determined at a mutually agreed upon time and date to be determined by Ms. Palin and the winning bidder. Ms Palin may bring up to three guests of her own. The dinner will be paid for by the seller. There are no age restrictions but anyone under 16-years-old must be accompanied by a parent or legal guardian. Winner may take personal photos and allowed to bring one item of reasonable size i.e. no larger than what can be carried by hand (t-shirts, books, magazines, etc.) The decision to sign the item will ultimately be up to Ms. Palin. Respect for Ms. Palin and her guest(s) is expected at all times. Inappropriate behavior will result in the conclusion of the experience with no refund.

Dinner shall last no more than four hours, but could be less, in the sole discretion of Sarah Palin. * Governor Palin reserves the right to refuse dinner with a winning bidder if, in her sole discretion, the winning bidder is not a suitable bidder based on her subjective standards of suitability, professionalism, background and other factors. In the event the high bidder is rejected for this reason, the high bidder’s bid will be refunded, if paid, and the next highest bidder shall be notified, and thereafter, until a suitable match is determined.



[Edited on 9/10/2009 by PattyG]

 

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  posted on 9/10/2009 at 06:40 PM
Just think. We've only known Sweet Sarah for a year or so. In 2012, we'll have known her for three more years. I think we're going to have a lot of fun with her before she goes national again.

[Edited on 9/10/2009 by SantaCruzBluz]

 

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  posted on 9/10/2009 at 06:51 PM
I like how in the language about reserving the right to reject bidders, she refers to herself as Governor Palin. I thought she resigned to pursue a higher calling, Twittering.
 

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  posted on 9/10/2009 at 07:11 PM
Olberman tried to make a bid the other night but got stopped when it stated guests had to be approved. He didn't think he'd make the cut.

As for Palin, thank you McCain for empowering that piece of work.

 

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  posted on 9/10/2009 at 08:07 PM
The Gag Gift that keeps on giving.
 

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  posted on 9/10/2009 at 08:18 PM
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Yo Patty, the auction is up well over $25K:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2604 74255847

LOL



I wonder how many folks will get tossed before someone acceptable is chosen?

 

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  posted on 9/10/2009 at 08:21 PM
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Sweet Sarah


Is a quitter

 

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  posted on 9/10/2009 at 09:25 PM
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The Gag Gift that keeps on giving.


Most excellent....a double whammy!

 

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  posted on 9/10/2009 at 10:37 PM
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As you article points out, we already have corporate death panels. Why gov't ones (even assuming) would be worse does not seem to get addressing.




......because of the competence of the federal government??

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http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gv3EfUvsIyD4nUO6Nx7 pF4xqQHsAD9ABD61O0


VA says 600 veterans wrongly told they had ALS
By P.J. DICKERSCHEID (AP) – Aug 27, 2009

CHARLESTON, W.Va. — The U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs now estimates that more than 600 veterans erroneously received letters telling them they had been diagnosed with Lou Gehrig's disease, VA spokeswoman Katie Roberts said Thursday.

As a result of the panic the letters caused, the agency plans to create a more rigorous screening process for its notification letters and is offering to reimburse veterans for medical expenses incurred as a result of the letters.

"That's the least they can do," said former Air Force reservist Gale Reid in Montgomery, Ala. She racked up more than $3,000 in bills for medical tests last week to get a second opinion. Her civilian doctor concluded she did not have ALS, also known as Lou Gehrig's disease.

ALS is a rapidly progressive disease that attacks the nerve cells responsible for controlling muscles and typically kills people within five years.

Since acknowledging the mistake, the VA has increased its estimate on the number of veterans who received the letters in error. Earlier this week, it refuted a Gulf War veterans group's estimate of 1,200, saying the agency had been contacted by fewer than 10 veterans who had been wrongly notified.

Roberts said the VA plans to call every veteran who received the letter by mistake to provide an explanation about how "this unfortunate and regrettable error" occurred and to offer reassurances that the letters do not confirm diagnoses of the fatal neurological disease.

Former Army Sgt. Brent Casey, whose mother read him the letter saying he had ALS as he was driving to get the oil changed in his car, said he has not yet received a call from the VA, but is eager to hear a detailed explanation of how the mistake occurred.


 

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Dinner with Sarah folks.....pool your money and you too could dine at the twit's table....the bid is up to $125K last I heard. Mighty expensive spaghettios.

 

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  posted on 9/11/2009 at 12:05 AM
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pool your money and you too could dine at the twit's table....the bid is up to $125K last I heard.


I think "Twit" is kind of harsh. The woman is far from stupid or dense, Imho....she is just not smart enough to be a Governor...much less a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

 

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  posted on 9/11/2009 at 12:18 AM
twit noun
unpleasant or annoying person.

I stand by my statement.

 

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  posted on 9/11/2009 at 12:28 AM
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twit noun
unpleasant or annoying person.

I stand by my statement.


Fair enough

 

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  posted on 9/11/2009 at 12:42 AM
I was kinda shocked she didn't take payment in the form of gold only.

 

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  posted on 9/11/2009 at 01:11 AM
Ii don't think it's over yet....don't give her any ideas.

 

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  posted on 9/11/2009 at 05:27 AM
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twit noun
unpleasant or annoying person.

I stand by my statement.


i think she is entertaining

she makes me laugh

 

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