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  posted on 9/30/2003 at 01:56 PM
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I just purchased the Allman Brothers Band at Fillmore East Deluxe Edition, and I'm feeling ripped off. I am a die hard Brothers fan, and I bought this album under the impression that it had 6 new songs on it. I anxiously tore into the package to find out that it is essintially a redo of The Fillmore Concerts, released in 1992. The package clearly states that the album includes six bonus tracks. I guess I should have realized it, but knowing what a great set of shows occured at Fillmore East, I did not hesitate to spend $28 on an album that I thought had six more songs from these epic shows. It turns out that the six bonus tracks refer to the six songs that were not on the origninal release of the album, which had seven songs on it. This new album has thirteen songs, The Fillmore Concerts released in 1992 has twelve songs on it . Basically I spent $28 dollars for a 2:55 minute version of Midnight Rider that is not on The Fillmore Concerts that I already own. My first question was, Why re-release essentially the same album. I realize that the record company may have been behind it, but I feel decieved and ripped off. Maybe I'm wrong, but I will definitely research any further ABB releases claiming to have bonus tracks. Let my misfortune be a warning to any other die hard Brothers fan that would not hesitate to spend 25-30 bucks to have six more songs from the Fillmore Shows, if you already own the '92 release The Fillmore Concerts, don't waste your mony on the "Deluxe Edition"


[Edited on 9/30/2003 by libertarianforlife]

 
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  posted on 9/30/2003 at 02:08 PM
I was at Best Buy and saw the same thing. I looked on the back cover to see they only added Midnight Rider, so I decided not to mess w/ it.

 

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  posted on 9/30/2003 at 02:10 PM
Well unfortunately I thought maybe the six bonus tracks were on a seperate cd not listed on the cover. I guess I learned my lesson!
 

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  posted on 9/30/2003 at 02:11 PM
If they keep that up, they can blow my butthole. I'll download the **** ing thing for free, or better yet just visit libritarianforlife and get it from him....Please donate some cash to make up for his loss. Or, better yet, Give him his money back....
 

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  posted on 9/30/2003 at 02:20 PM
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If they keep that up, they can blow my butthole. I'll download the **** ing thing for fre0.e, or better yet just visit libritarianforlife and get it from him....Please donate some cash to make up for his loss. Or, better yet, Give him his money back....


WHO DO YOU MEAN BY 'THEY'

this is not the brother's doing. go complain at the sony site.

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  posted on 9/30/2003 at 02:33 PM
*Sigh*.

 

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  posted on 9/30/2003 at 02:43 PM
It's actually not Sony either. It's Universal. Basically, they do this so people will spend the money. I bought it knowing what I was getting into and I'm not impressed either. Really, you should go back to the store and have them give you a credit. It's not the store's fault, but you should do it anyway. They shouldn't give a stink, if they do, ask to speak to a manager. I think if it were up to the band, they would nicely remaster all of the albums, put appropriate bonus tracks on each disc and keep them out like that for many years! However, it's not up to the band...
 

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  posted on 9/30/2003 at 02:47 PM
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My first question was, Why re-release essentially the same album. I realize that the record company may have been behind it, but I feel decieved and ripped off.

There's no "may have been" about it. The Allmans don't control that part of their catalogue. That's why material from the early days gets re-packaged so often- the record company is just trying to squeeze more money out of it. As far as future releases go, keep checking this site - this album was discussed extensively here, and we all figured out that it was the same stuff as the Fillmore Concerts within a couple of minutes of its announcement.

My advice: return the thing anf get your money back! Save it for the Allmans Atlanta Pop album, which comes out in October. It's got both the band's shows there (July 3 and 5, 1970) in their entirety, and only two tracks from those two dates have ever been released before. Or get the new Beacon DVD if you have a DVD player, it's outstanding.

 

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  posted on 9/30/2003 at 02:54 PM
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this album was discussed extensively here, and we all figured out that it was the same stuff as the Fillmore Concerts within a couple of minutes of its announcment

Thanks for the info Marley. In the future I will certainly consult the forums prior to purchasing re-released old material. I have already ordered the New live album and the Beacon DVD. I was very disappointed with my expierience today, but I totally realize the Brothers have no control over their music from that period.


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  posted on 9/30/2003 at 02:55 PM
Remember that the certain "Deluxe Editions" have been doing well in regards to sales. So you know the concept is going to be beaten to death with many, many titles. It's a hit or miss. So far, I absolutely LOVE the CATCH A FIRE Deluxe Edition, as it's fantastic all the way through. The LIVE AT THE APOLLO was another great reissue. I mean, they really EXPAND on the original album releases.

There is the Sweetheart of the Rodeo one I am curious about...

I actually like the mix of the Fillmore Deluxe Edition, although it is overkill for many ABB fans. I still like the Mobile Fidelity the best though.

 

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  posted on 9/30/2003 at 02:58 PM
Buyer Beware. If you look closely at the packaging. On the back you will see in very fine print that the bonus tracks were previously released. look for the **** followed by the release dates. I didnt buy it I have enough copies of AFE. I guess I'm just not enough of a purest.
 

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  posted on 9/30/2003 at 04:58 PM
It is a different mix than that on The Fillmore Concerts correct?

 

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  posted on 9/30/2003 at 05:12 PM
I haven't heard it Denza, but the consensus of opinion seems to be this: the original AFE tracks (7 of them) are present in remastered versions of the original 1971 AFE mixes. The 1992 Tom Dowd remixes from The Fillmore Concerts have been dumped.

Presumably, the 6 other cuts are all present in the mixes/length in which they were originally released, ie.

Trouble No More - EAP
One Way Out - EAP
Mountain Jam - EAP
DKMW - Duane Allman Anthology vol.1
Midnight Rider - Duane Anthology vol.2
Drunken Hearted Boy - Dreams box set

With regards to the length of the tracks, I understand that they are all presented as they originally appeared on the above LP's, that is, with applause faded out at the end of each cut (unlike the Fillmore Concerts which was edited to appear seamless)

All stage chat from the abovementioned ORIGINAL releases has been retained - this also means, unfortunately, that Duane's little speech to the audience after Drunken Hearted Boy (which was on the later Fillmore Concerts album) is mostly MIA, as per the fade-out on the original Dreams release of the song.

P.S. As the above list shows, don't let the record company tell you that Midnight Rider is "new" - it ain't; it just hasn't been compiled next to the other cuts, that's all.

Hope this helps.

 
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