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  posted on 8/19/2009 at 07:56 AM


[Edited on 8/20/2009 by jerryphilbob]

 
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  posted on 8/19/2009 at 12:16 PM
This is about control, not health care. My mother would have been denied under the Obama plan. Just look to Canada and England. Watch and learn, you won't get help in a timely manner. These aren't lies, they are facts. Take off the rose colored glasses and put the koolaid down for just a second and look at what they want for you. We have the best health care in the world, period. So lets destroy it, brilliant!

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  posted on 8/19/2009 at 12:17 PM
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My mother would have been denied under the Obama plan.
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  posted on 8/19/2009 at 12:32 PM
She has "hope" LOL. Hope will get you dead.
 

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  posted on 8/19/2009 at 12:32 PM
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My mother would have been denied under the Obama plan.
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You've facts to prove this otherwise?


You have facts to the contrary yourself?

 

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  posted on 8/19/2009 at 12:34 PM
I heard that John Stossel put together fake town hall meetings to shill for the insurance companies.

 

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  posted on 8/19/2009 at 12:35 PM
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I heard that John Stossel put together fake town hall meetings to shill for the insurance companies.


Sounds like a fact to me.

 

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  posted on 8/19/2009 at 12:38 PM
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My mother would have been denied under the Obama plan.
lie


You've facts to prove this otherwise?


You have facts to the contrary yourself?


No I do not.

Again - does she? Do you?


I am up to 900 of the nearly 1100 pages of HR 3200 read and I have not seen anything that remotely comes close to criteria that would deny care.

How much of it have you read so far?

 

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  posted on 8/19/2009 at 04:07 PM
This fake town hall stuff is sponsored by one of the major health insurance lobbyist organizations. It's all a farce. Stossel should be fired from ABC for participating.

 

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  posted on 8/19/2009 at 08:54 PM
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This fake town hall stuff is sponsored by one of the major health insurance lobbyist organizations. It's all a farce. Stossel should be fired from ABC for participating.



I totally agree. I'll never watch anything else he appears in. Wonder what he got for selling out.

 

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  posted on 8/19/2009 at 09:23 PM
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This fake town hall stuff is sponsored by one of the major health insurance lobbyist organizations. It's all a farce. Stossel should be fired from ABC for participating.


I missed the exclusive on the fakeness of this, so please post a link so those of us who didn't know anything about this can get educated. Thanks in advance.

 

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  posted on 8/19/2009 at 11:29 PM
Stossel is worse than Hannity, etc. They are up front about their politics. We know the Fox agenda. ABC is considered mainstream and Stossel hides behind that. He appears calm and impartial but his stories always support the right. The right wing propagandists are everywhere. NBC's news anchor Brian Williams called Limbaugh on the air to congratulate him on some anniversary. The entire media is owned by giant corporations with right wing agendas. The only way to decipher the truth is to believe the opposite of everything they say.

[Edited on 8/20/2009 by lespaul58]

 

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  posted on 8/19/2009 at 11:37 PM
You're right. The media is mostly controlled by the right wing and yet they yell the loudest about the 'liberal media'. Diversionary tactics at best.

 

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  posted on 8/20/2009 at 12:59 AM
I think we should have a public company for healthcare and name it FTICC. We collectively pay towards healthcare, Invest the money ourselves in the same funds the insurance companies do. If there's a profit we get the dividend ourselves and we cut of the middle man out. More money for healthcare and we can profit off it like they do....

 

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  posted on 8/20/2009 at 06:45 AM
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This fake town hall stuff is sponsored by one of the major health insurance lobbyist organizations. It's all a farce. Stossel should be fired from ABC for participating.


I missed the exclusive on the fakeness of this, so please post a link so those of us who didn't know anything about this can get educated. Thanks in advance.


I know this because there is a lot of talk about it here in Wisconsin. They are taking place in Wisconsin and being sponsored by Americans for Prosperity a known right wing organization who shills for large corporations in other words they are a PR group for corporations or as I like to call them corporate whores.

http://blog.buzzflash.com/honors/209

http://mediamatters.org/research/200908170024



[Edited on 8/20/2009 by Peachypetewi]

 

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  posted on 8/20/2009 at 07:06 AM
Here we have a Maconga1 post from this thread in which he says he has "facts" (although all I see are claims he has yet to back up with any real info, but he says they are facts so let's call them that for the sake of arguement):
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This is about control, not health care. My mother would have been denied under the Obama plan. Just look to Canada and England. Watch and learn, you won't get help in a timely manner. These aren't lies, they are facts.


Now, just a little farther down the page, Maconga1 says he has no facts:

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My mother would have been denied under the Obama plan.
lie


You've facts to prove this otherwise?


You have facts to the contrary yourself?


No I do not.

Again - does she? Do you?


So which is it, facts or no facts???

 

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