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  posted on 8/19/2009 at 01:33 AM
ABB Set list.. SARATOGA, Aug. 18, 2009
Don't Want You No More/
It's Not My Cross To Bear
Trouble No More
Rockin' Horse
Ain't Wastin' Time No More
Miidnite Rider
Southbound (with Tom Johnston, Guitar/Mark Russo, Sax
from the Doobie Bros)
Who's Been Talkin'
Revival
Melissa
Statesboro Blues
Into The Mystic
In Memory of Elizabeth Reed/JaBuMa
Oteil Bass Solo

Encore: One way Out

DOOBIE BROS. set list at Saratoga, 8/18/09
Take Me in Your Arms/Jesus is Just Alright/Dangerous/Rockin' Down the Highway/
Nobody/Back To the Chateau/Takin' it to the Streets/Don't Start Me Talkin'/
Little Bitty Pretty One/Black Water/Long Train Runnin'/China Grove/Without You/
Listen to the Music

Well.... I just got in from a long drive home from Saratoga so I will try to post
a few coherent thoughts about the show.

The Doobies are way too good to be an opening act. From the second they hit
the stage, they were firing on all cylinders and never let up. The crowd gave them
several standing ovations. They even previewed a new song, "Back at the
Chateau", from their upcoming album, their first since 2000's "Sibling Rivalry".
Tom Johnston, Patrick Simmons and John McFee are all superb guitarists, and
John even sawed away on fiddle during Black Water. Ed Toth and Michael Hossack
with bass player Skylar kept the rhythm section solid. Ed has really worked himself
well into the band since replacing the late Keith Knudsen in 2005. The vocal
harmonies were spot on. A flawless performance, a lot like the DVD "Doobie Bros.
Live at Wolf Trap." The Doobies will opening up for one more night in New Jersey
before Widespread Panic takes over for the rest of the ABB dates. Those
folks catching the Doobies/ABB combo in New Jersey on Wednesday are in for a real treat.

The opening night of this leg of the 40th anniversary tour for the ABB found
them paying tribute to Duane with screen images of the band's legendary
founder during the opening song "Don't Want You No More/It's Not My Cross
To Bear." Right off the bat Gregg sounded in very strong voice and continued
that way for the rest of the night. Warren Haynes seemed to have some amplifier
issues early in the show, as Guitar Tech Brian Farmer could be seen visiting
the stage and looking over Warren's amp several times. It didn't detract
from the show at all. Sometimes you go to an ABB show, and you can tell
by the guitar solos if it's a Warren night or a Derek night. For the Saratoga
show it sure sounded like BOTH of them were at the top of their game,
from Warren's blazing solo in Rocking Horse to Derek ripping it up
in Who's Been Talkin'. The two guitarists seemed to be feeding off each
other's energy, propelling each other to greater heights. Rocking Horse
in particular had a new jam section leading into it, and a very interesting
middle section (can't wait to get my munch music CD's in the mail to hear
it again). Two Doobie Bros, Guitarist Tom Johnston and Saxophonist Marc
Russo joined the Brothers for a smokin' "Southbound". Tom sounded
right at home trading licks with Warren and Derek during the lengthy solo
section of the song. Melissa was played as a four-piece: Gregg, Butch,
Warren and Oteil.

Other highlights? It's always a pleasure hearing Warren do his soulful
version of Van Morrison's "Into the Mystic." "In Memory of Elizabeth Reed"
was as transcendent as ever. "Revival" had a long extended solo section
where Warren & Derek once again produced pure fretboard fire.

A little note about the weather: It was unbearably hot when the show
started but lightning/thunderstorms rolled in and cooled things down
a bit. We were kept dry in the covered reserved seating. Not sure if the folks
on the lawn liked being that drenched or not, but I think rain sure helped
the parched, humid atmosphere a bit.

 

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  posted on 8/19/2009 at 03:01 AM
Where was Butch Trucks tonight?????
Im not sure if my mojo is happening for ABB right now. I have kind of burned out on ABB after 2 years of listening mostly to them. After seeing a couple of mediocre Mule shows a few years ago, I switched over to ABB. Now after seeing Mule at Mtn. Jam this year and in Buffalo, I am back on the Mule train.
I was at the Saratoga show. Let me first say I love ABB dearly and all the players are amazing. But I didn't like the show. Sorry it was forgetable. Maybe it wasn't a bad show, maybe, but it lacked energy. Something was up with Butch Trucks. Not his usual rocking self. My friend said that Butch looked tired, I thought he looked tired and bored.
There were times during the show that the tempo( drums) was almost completly lost.
It really felt like to me that at times that Warren, Derek and Oteil were carrying the band.
Sorry this review isnt so rosey as the one above.
All I know as of right now, I have no desire to purchase the show. And that is not good.
If it wasn't for a good friend being at the HArtford show, I would be done with this tour.
What is up with the setlists??!! You guys can't throw in one song that you don't usually play? What is UP? For Real?!! That is pretty lame.
Doobie Brothers put on a great show. They might have stolen the show this night.

 

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  posted on 8/19/2009 at 03:51 AM
I think if it was such a rotten show, people would've been walking out of the Saratoga
Performing Arts Center in droves, which they didn't. Everyone looked like they enjoyed the show to me.
I think listening to just a steady diet of ABB and nothing else is probably not a good idea, chowin.
I listen to a wide range of music and therefore I find I can appreciate the ABB even more and never
burn out on them, and thus, I enjoyed the Saratoga show. Butch looked full of energy to me. One thing
I try to do when I go to an ABB show is not put everything under complete scrutiny or a magnifying glass.
As for set lists, I think I'll wait and check out the next few shows' set lists before I decide whether
or not ABB is playing the "same old songs." And even if they are playing the so-called "same old
songs", no two performances of any ABB song are exactly alike. Also, the set changes from night to night
moreso than when Duane or Dickey were in the band. I guess there's just no way to please every
ABB fan out there.


[Edited on 8/19/2009 by woodsdweller]

 

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  posted on 8/19/2009 at 04:35 AM
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I think listening to just a steady diet of ABB and nothing else is probably not a good idea


woodsdweller

I think that's a good point. There does seem to be a crowd that seems just listen to the ABB, Mule and Derek Trucks and not a whole lot else, and they do seem to be ones, wanting more "new songs', more "variety in the set lists", ect. Of course, many of these people fail to realize that most people going to see the ABB are generally not "hard core" fans. Certainly not to the extend that many on Hittin the Web are. And these other fans WANT to hear songs that they are somewhat familiar with. Your advice, on "listening to wide range of music" is a good one. I myself certainly enjoy listening to lots of blues and bluegrass, and some classic rock in addition to bands like the ABB.

[Edited on 8/19/2009 by sibwlkr]

 

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Of course, many of these people fail to realize that most people going to see the ABB are generally not "hard core" fans. Certainly not to the extend that many on Hittin the Web are. And these other fans WANT to hear songs that they are somewhat familiar with.


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ABB Set list.. SARATOGA, Aug. 18, 2009
Don't Want You No More/
It's Not My Cross To Bear
Trouble No More
Rockin' Horse
Ain't Wastin' Time No More
Miidnite Rider
Southbound (with Tom Johnston, Guitar/Mark Russo, Sax
from the Doobie Bros)
Who's Been Talkin'
Revival
Melissa
Statesboro Blues
Into The Mystic
In Memory of Elizabeth Reed/JaBuMa
Oteil Bass Solo

Encore: One way Out

DOOBIE BROS. set list at Saratoga, 8/18/09
Take Me in Your Arms/Jesus is Just Alright/Dangerous/Rockin' Down the Highway/
Nobody/Back To the Chateau/Takin' it to the Streets/Don't Start Me Talkin'/
Little Bitty Pretty One/Black Water/Long Train Runnin'/China Grove/Without You/
Listen to the Music

Well.... I just got in from a long drive home from Saratoga so I will try to post
a few coherent thoughts about the show.

The Doobies are way too good to be an opening act. From the second they hit
the stage, they were firing on all cylinders and never let up. The crowd gave them
several standing ovations. They even previewed a new song, "Back at the
Chateau", from their upcoming album, their first since 2000's "Sibling Rivalry".
Tom Johnston, Patrick Simmons and John McFee are all superb guitarists, and
John even sawed away on fiddle during Black Water. Ed Toth and Michael Hossack
with bass player Skylar kept the rhythm section solid. Ed has really worked himself
well into the band since replacing the late Keith Knudsen in 2005. The vocal
harmonies were spot on. A flawless performance, a lot like the DVD "Doobie Bros.
Live at Wolf Trap." The Doobies will opening up for one more night in New Jersey
before Widespread Panic takes over for the rest of the ABB dates. Those
folks catching the Doobies/ABB combo in New Jersey on Wednesday are in for a real treat.

The opening night of this leg of the 40th anniversary tour for the ABB found
them paying tribute to Duane with screen images of the band's legendary
founder during the opening song "Don't Want You No More/It's Not My Cross
To Bear." Right off the bat Gregg sounded in very strong voice and continued
that way for the rest of the night. Warren Haynes seemed to have some amplifier
issues early in the show, as Guitar Tech Brian Farmer could be seen visiting
the stage and looking over Warren's amp several times. It didn't detract
from the show at all. Sometimes you go to an ABB show, and you can tell
by the guitar solos if it's a Warren night or a Derek night. For the Saratoga
show it sure sounded like BOTH of them were at the top of their game,
from Warren's blazing solo in Rocking Horse to Derek ripping it up
in Who's Been Talkin'. The two guitarists seemed to be feeding off each
other's energy, propelling each other to greater heights. Rocking Horse
in particular had a new jam section leading into it, and a very interesting
middle section (can't wait to get my munch music CD's in the mail to hear
it again). Two Doobie Bros, Guitarist Tom Johnston and Saxophonist Marc
Russo joined the Brothers for a smokin' "Southbound". Tom sounded
right at home trading licks with Warren and Derek during the lengthy solo
section of the song. Melissa was played as a four-piece: Gregg, Butch,
Warren and Oteil.

Other highlights? It's always a pleasure hearing Warren do his soulful
version of Van Morrison's "Into the Mystic." "In Memory of Elizabeth Reed"
was as transcendent as ever. "Revival" had a long extended solo section
where Warren & Derek once again produced pure fretboard fire.

A little note about the weather: It was unbearably hot when the show
started but lightning/thunderstorms rolled in and cooled things down
a bit. We were kept dry in the covered reserved seating. Not sure if the folks
on the lawn liked being that drenched or not, but I think rain sure helped
the parched, humid atmosphere a bit.


Thanks for the review! Can't wait for tonight! (and if I get wet? oh well - I hope my broom will stay dry enough to get home!)

 

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  posted on 8/19/2009 at 07:30 AM
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Sometimes you go to an ABB show, and you can tell
by the guitar solos if it's a Warren night or a Derek night. For the Saratoga
show it sure sounded like BOTH of them were at the top of their game,
from Warren's blazing solo in Rocking Horse to Derek ripping it up
in Who's Been Talkin'


It seems like everytime I have heard them play Rocking Horse live, Warren always smokes on that solo for some reason!!!!

 

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  posted on 8/19/2009 at 07:36 AM
Thanks for the review and set lists ... takes me back to Knebworth 1974 when the Doobies played on the same bill as the ABB ... I would really love to see that combo again but I can't see them coming to the UK again sadly ... will keep wishing ...

 

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  posted on 8/19/2009 at 07:37 AM
Some of my faves on this setlist. Great venue, too. Hope you all had a great time!

 

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  posted on 8/19/2009 at 08:04 AM
After an amazing Beacon Run with tons of obscure songs I was hoping the Allmans would come out firing this summer with a unique set list. I went to three Beacon shows and each one blew my mind.
After seeing a pretty "typical set list" at Mountain Jam this year I gave them the benefit of the doubt since it was a festival and it might have been a generic set list for fans/nonfans and newbies to enjoy.
BUT with all of this talk of this being the last summer, a lot less shows, possible retirement I was really hoping for the band to stretch it and give the fans a little something new aside from this standard summer tour set list it seems they generated throughout recent years.
I was not at this show so I am just basing this off of the set list posted here (show could have been amazing and unique for all i know) but based on JUST the set list I am a little sad to see the same old tunes. I am going to four shows on this summer tour and I really hope they have a little fire from the beacon left in them.
Maybe I am just setting the bar high now since Mule is pushing the envelope with every show they put on but regardless I am just hoping for a little bit of fire from my favorite of band of all time especially if this is really the end...

 

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  posted on 8/19/2009 at 08:25 AM
I put my thoughts over in the other thread -

http://www.allmanbrothersband.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=XForum&am p;file=viewthread&tid=96774#pid2250165

As far as the folks walking out - the crowd was engaged all night. However, I didn't feel the same buzz (not talking substances here) in the crowd walking out over that bridge... people raving about this or that in the show... Maybe the rain zapped the energy out of those on the lawn.

SPAC was offering $10 upgrades from lawn seats to seats inside. After it started raining, those upper seats filled up fast.

 

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BUT with all of this talk of this being the last summer, a lot less shows, possible retirement I was really hoping for the band to stretch it and give the fans a little something new aside from this standard summer tour set list it seems they generated throughout recent years.
I was not at this show so I am just basing this off of the set list posted here (show could have been amazing and unique for all i know) but based on JUST the set list I am a little sad to see the same old tunes. I am going to four shows on this summer tour and I really hope they have a little fire from the beacon left in them.
Maybe I am just setting the bar high now since Mule is pushing the envelope with every show they put on but regardless I am just hoping for a little bit of fire from my favorite of band of all time especially if this is really the end...


Thats what I have kinda thought too and hoped for,like you said," stretch it and give the fans a little something new aside from this standard summer tour set list it seems they generated throughout recent years." I have felt that way the last few years.
What you said there is pretty much how I feel also.


[Edited on 8/19/2009 by jszfunk]

 

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Thanks for the setlist and reviews!

The setlist does look pedestrian, but it is the first show of the tour. I would expect the performances to improve as the tour goes on.

Widespread Panic will help give the shows a boost I'm sure.

I bet this tour will gain momentum very quickly.

So can you get the live cd's after the show or is it mail order only?

 

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During the Beacon run they had a ton of guests and played many different songs. There was quite the uproar around here that "when I pay to see the ABB, I wanna see the ABB and hear ABB songs!"

A lot of people clamor for new material. I went to alot of shows around the time Hittin' The Note came out and for those of us that are diehards, hearing that new stuff was really cool and new. However, one could not help but notice that during shows half if not over half the crowd would sit down or head to the bathroom or beer stand when they started a new song.

Can't be all things to all people... At this point in the life of this band, I'll take whatever happiness they want to share with us.

Dickey is making a great go of it playing his songs that are just as old, and folks are raving. We all look for different things.

 

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  posted on 8/19/2009 at 08:45 AM
Thanks for the set list and review... Fired up for tonight!

 

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  posted on 8/19/2009 at 08:52 AM
What time did each band go on? Thx

 

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  posted on 8/19/2009 at 09:01 AM
I'll take whatever they give me.....

 

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  posted on 8/19/2009 at 09:04 AM
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It seems like everytime I have heard them play Rocking Horse live, Warren always smokes on that solo for some reason!!!!



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  posted on 8/19/2009 at 11:39 AM
Nice review, thank you!
 

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  posted on 8/19/2009 at 12:17 PM
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no two performances of any ABB song are exactly alike. Also, the set changes from night to night
moreso than when Duane or Dickey were in the band. I guess there's just no way to please every
ABB fan out there.


you are comparing a 3 year window to a 10 year window of time, I believe had Duane had 7 more years, the setlist would have changed.

so the opening act has a new song and the headliner not....

 

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  posted on 8/19/2009 at 12:24 PM
Does anyone know what time the Doobies and ABB went on last night?

 

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  posted on 8/19/2009 at 12:50 PM
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Does anyone know what time the Doobies and ABB went on last night?


Doors at 6pm. Doobies at 7pm. ABB at 9pm. Leaving in 2 hours. Can't wait.

 

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  posted on 8/19/2009 at 01:35 PM
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I was at the Saratoga show. Let me first say I love ABB dearly and all the players are amazing. But I didn't like the show. Sorry it was forgetable. Maybe it wasn't a bad show, maybe, but it lacked energy. Something was up with Butch Trucks. Not his usual rocking self. My friend said that Butch looked tired, I thought he looked tired and bored.
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Sounds like a great show to me!!! Bring on Jones Beach and Mansfield!!!

As far as Butch looking tired, try playing drums in the heat and humidity when you are 60+ years old. I doubt you would look like a spring chicken.

[Edited on 8/19/2009 by sixty8]

 

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  posted on 8/19/2009 at 02:01 PM
Doobies started at 7:05pm ABB 9:00 pm-11pm
doobies played great like their new song.
ABB was a good show,not spectacular by any means but hey I have never watched a bad show from them.Little disappointed with set list though I was hoping for egypt or Orpheo
seemed like a greatest hit night.Rocking horse had an excellent intro I had never heard before and liz reed was tight unfortunately with oteils bass solo It had a lot of people heading to the bathrooms.But all in all gregg sounded great.

 

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  posted on 8/19/2009 at 02:10 PM
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Thanks for the setlist and reviews!

The setlist does look pedestrian, but it is the first show of the tour. I would expect the performances to improve as the tour goes on.

Widespread Panic will help give the shows a boost I'm sure.

I bet this tour will gain momentum very quickly.

So can you get the live cd's after the show or is it mail order only?



Hi Bob...
When I went over to the merch stand to pay for a live cd
of the Saratoga show the guy there said, "Our CD burning guy
is not here tonight so we'll be mailing the Saratoga shows
out next week." They had everyone write down their
address. Not sure if that will be the deal for the whole tour.

 

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