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  posted on 8/13/2009 at 04:02 AM
Sometimes even LIBERALS get it right, as the article by Salon's columist Camille Paglia "Obama's Healthcare Horror" points out. Here's some good quotes from the article.

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The president is promoting the most colossal, brazen bait-and-switch operation since the Bush administration snookered the country into invading Iraq with apocalyptic visions of mushroom clouds over American cities


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But who would have thought that the sober, deliberative Barack Obama would have nothing to propose but vague and slippery promises -- or that he would so easily cede the leadership clout of the executive branch to a chaotic, rapacious, solipsistic Congress?


Perhaps, ObamaCare is an incorrect term, could be CongressCare or even PelosiCare, might be more accurate.

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The bureaucracy required to institute and manage a nationalized health system here would be Byzantine beyond belief and would vampirically absorb whatever savings Obama thinks could be made. And the transition period would be a nightmare of red tape and mammoth screw-ups, which we can ill afford with a faltering economy.



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It isn't conservative rumors or lies that are stopping healthcare legislation; it's the justifiable alarm of an electorate that has been cut out of the loop and is watching its representatives construct a tangled labyrinth for others but not for themselves. No, the airheads of Congress will keep their own plush healthcare plan -- it's the rest of us guinea pigs who will be thrown to the wolves.



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...... what do Democrats stand for, if they are so ready to defame concerned citizens as the "mob" -- a word betraying a Marie Antoinette delusion of superiority to ordinary mortals. I thought my party was populist, attentive to the needs and wishes of those outside the power structure. And as a product of the 1960s, I thought the Democratic party was passionately committed to freedom of thought and speech.

But somehow liberals have drifted into a strange servility toward big government, which they revere as a godlike foster father-mother who can dispense all bounty and magically heal all ills.



And last, but not least here's this quote

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The ethical collapse of the left was nowhere more evident than in the near total silence of liberal media and Web sites at the Obama administration's outrageous solicitation to private citizens to report unacceptable "casual conversations" to the White House. If Republicans had done this, there would have been an angry explosion by Democrats from coast to coast. I was stunned at the failure of liberals to see the blatant totalitarianism in this incident, which the president should have immediately denounced. His failure to do so implicates him in it.



Here's a direct quote from the White House blog (http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts-Are-Stubborn-Things/)

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There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov.


I can imagine the HELL that would be raised in Media, if a REPUBLICAN President would have proposed such a thing.

Anyway here's the link to whole article:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2009/08/12/town_halls/



[Edited on 8/13/2009 by sibwlkr]

 
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  posted on 8/13/2009 at 10:58 AM
cheneycare.org

 

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  posted on 8/13/2009 at 11:01 AM
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We all know Obama is the sweetest & best thing to ever happen to this country.


I don't think that. I've never thought that. Every single Democrat I know has never thought that. These continual insinuations are really insulting and turn me off to whatever it is you have to say, which I don't like, because I really enjoy your take on many things.

However, I am not telling you what to think or post or whatever. Just my .02.

 

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  posted on 8/13/2009 at 11:32 AM
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or that he would so easily cede the leadership clout of the executive branch to a chaotic, rapacious, solipsistic Congress?
I think she really hits the target with this observation. If Obama seems to generalize or be unable to answer questions well on this "plan", I believe some of that comes from the fact that the administration has let congress construct the plan(s) and isn't really conversant in the details.

I know I'll get slammed for saying this; but I wonder if this isn't a trend. The stimulus was largely constructed by congress, with it's multitudinous expenditures on D's favorite projects. Cap & trade is in the same process.

I know "the President proposes, congress disposes", but I wonder if that hasn't gone too far and hurt Obama's initiatives. During he campaign, some commented on how he was able to rise above the details of various issues. Now he seems to want to govern the same way, but it appears to be less effective as time goes on.

Beyond that, I just loved this phrase -

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The bureaucracy required to institute and manage a nationalized health system here would be Byzantine beyond belief and would vampirically absorb whatever savings Obama thinks could be made.
Besides being very true, I just love the word-use and description "vampirically". Great word!



[Edited on 8/13/2009 by Fujirich]

 

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  posted on 8/13/2009 at 02:30 PM
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But who would have thought that the sober, deliberative Barack Obama would have nothing to propose but vague and slippery promises -- or that he would so easily cede the leadership clout of the executive branch to a chaotic, rapacious, solipsistic Congress?


Quote of the year, the first year of the Golden Age.

 

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  posted on 8/13/2009 at 02:36 PM
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We all know Obama is the sweetest & best thing to ever happen to this country.


I don't think that. I've never thought that. Every single Democrat I know has never thought that. These continual insinuations are really insulting and turn me off to whatever it is you have to say ... However, I am not telling you what to think or post or whatever. Just my .02.
Well said, Jerry... thanks for putting this to words. Another thing I find off-putting is when folks who wouldn't take the time to vote and make their opinions known in the polls are so quick to jump on any and every thing having to do with this current administration. I guess it would be easier to take some opinions seriously if I knew that they were coming from somebody who as least attempted to make their voice heard in the elections and not just with after-the-fact whine fests and silly name-calling.

[Edited on 8/13/2009 by lolasdeb]

 

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