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  posted on 7/31/2009 at 07:20 PM
Hello everyone!

i've finally gotten the storage space i need (2 - 2tb SATA drives in a Raid1 array) to feed in the 2,000 or so commericial cd's and 600 live shows i have accumulated over the course of my lifetime. Since my intention is to never have to do this again (and get rid of the source cds when i'm done) I figured i'd go about ripping them using iTunes since that is what i use to sync my iPhone. Well, BAD IDEA. ITunes screws up your library pretty bad. Not to mention that 25 years from now, i WILL be listening to the same music, but i doubt it will be through iTunes.

i was lucky, i only fed about 5 disks into my iTunes library before i stopped and did a data integrity check - at first i thought "COOL, it finds the titles, finds the album artwork, creates a folder and labels the music correctlty! this is a cake walk!" HOWEVER, just for kicks and giggles, i decided to wipe out my itunes library. iTunes stripped the folders away, and all my folders stayed with artists names, though the songs got moved into a folder marked "unknown". (argh).

anyway, what freeware program is out there that will find the album titles and song names, name them correctly? Windows Media player maybe? I'm still up in the air about which format to use too, iTunes can play WAVs so i will likely still to that but would prefer something smaller (and not as controversial as mp3)

Thank you to you all, i've been asking all my coworkers who are computer geeks but NOT music geeks.

thanks a bunch!









[Edited on 8/1/2009 by LinnieXX]

 

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  posted on 7/31/2009 at 07:51 PM

As someone who really doesn't trust computers, i pods,
limewire, itunes etc, I would Never get rid of my actual CD's.
It would be very hard to replace that much Great Music Linnie.
Just my opinion.

 

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  posted on 7/31/2009 at 08:29 PM
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As someone who really doesn't trust computers, i pods,
limewire, itunes etc, I would Never get rid of my actual CD's.
It would be very hard to replace that much Great Music Linnie.
Just my opinion.



Have to agree the drives will fail it is just a matter of time the discs will last 100 years

 

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Is that RAID array part of a NAS device or in a PC? If NAS/home server, which one did you get?


internal drives.... i'm on phase 1b of my 5 part media center project. Next step will be serving the music throughout the house. right now i just want to get the files in there to my satisifaction and be able to sync with iTunes (cuz as far as i know, i need itunes to get music to my player, right?)

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Have to agree the drives will fail it is just a matter of time the discs will last 100 years


Good luck trying to find a device to play cd's 100 years from now - The beauty of the RAID1 array, if one drive has a HW failure, i have the second one to fail back on. Since i'm in the midst of a huge Disaster Recovery project at work, i've learned to become paranoid of data loss so i will eventaully buy another 2tb external drive for a backup that i'll keep offsite.

Another problem with keeping the cd's is the lack of room, not to mention i'm tired of trying to keep them all straight. CD's are a dying medium.....why bother with 12 songs on one disk when you can have 12,000 all in one place.


ok so Windows Media will do the job with tagging? that would be good. i'll check this weekend and let you all know.



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I wrote/publish software for Windows that serves your ripped media to devices around the home, so I have intimate knowledge of digital media formats. Let me know if you have mo' questions...


Yes, what is WMAL? i hate to admit this, but i'm probably going to use mp3 for my commerical cd's. that way i get the metadata with the music all in one file. apples itunes appears to keep them metadata (xml format i belive) in a separate pointer file (bastages!)

thank you all, ill check back on this thread next week

 

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  posted on 7/31/2009 at 09:10 PM
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With all due respect, they said the same thing about vinyl - which was the only medium to increase sales over '08 - by 70%.

I'll never get rid of my records, even though I rarely listen to them, or my CDs. Too much extraneous info on them that add to the whole listening experience. Plus many, many LP covers are virtual (no pun intended) works of art. They're a part of history.

 

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  posted on 7/31/2009 at 09:10 PM
Express Rip will rip from your CD to almost any format you like, and can access some on line databases to tag your music:

http://www.nch.com.au/rip/plus.html

Of course you know about EAC, which can also rip directly to flac, but I don't think can tag the files.

I would never entrust my music to iTunes. You can have it manage the itunes library, but have the data reside outside iTunes, so you can still access it directly.

 

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  posted on 8/1/2009 at 03:14 PM
I've got my cds in alphabetical order, & the order in which the album was released. I've got them all in itunes, but I'm not getting rid of the actual cds though. There's something about owning the actual cd, even if you only like a few songs on it.
 

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  posted on 8/1/2009 at 04:33 PM
Never,ever will i "get rid of" my Vinyl & cd's...

 

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  posted on 8/1/2009 at 04:47 PM
"Archiving your CD's....how are you doing it?"

Staples brand reinforced cardboard file storage boxes...

 

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  posted on 8/1/2009 at 08:18 PM
i can certainly understand the temptation to save space by downloading your cd's and records but I would never ever get rid of my albums and cd's and i have thousands.....been buying and collecting since I was a kid ..too many memories involved and also the cd is still going to be the best source of fidelity..or the LP
 

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  posted on 8/2/2009 at 01:00 PM
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Never,ever will i "get rid of" my Vinyl & cd's...
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  posted on 8/2/2009 at 01:03 PM
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Never,ever will i "get rid of" my Vinyl & cd's...
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X3...

If I ever run out of room for my music...well...you only need so much furniture IMO...


[Edited on 8/2/2009 by les_paul_sunburst]

 

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  posted on 8/8/2009 at 10:23 AM
well, i've gone full blast into this project now and have been putting the songs in using Windows Media player. this way, i can name the songs by artist_album_track name.

i've fed in about 200 disks so far. I stopped last night, created a backup folder of everything, and set itunes to use the backup folder. I chose to NOT let ITunes manage the library. Everything came in just fine. I did have to find a lot of the album covers again, but that is not the end of the world.

tonight the fruit of my labor begins to pay off: we are having a bonfire and i was instructed to provide 15 hours of pink floyd. just pink floyd. No problem! i got that!

thank you all for your help. i took WDerek's advice and used a combo of lossless (wav's) and converted them to mp3. of the 2 tb; i have over 80% free space left


i might be offereing up a bunch of the old disks here. like i said, i'm not too interested in keeping them. I do have some collector editions that i'll hold on to (and a lot of signed ones too) but the rest of them i'm totally unattached to.

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