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  posted on 7/27/2009 at 08:15 AM
Man I loved this festival. Never was the same once they moved this to CT. Too bad. Sounds like it really was bad this yr. And a murder to boot..

http://www.gatheringofthevibes.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=8

BRIDGEPORT -- A body was discovered early Sunday at the Gathering of the Vibes campsite in Seaside Park.

The corpse of a 29-year-old male camper was found at the west side of the park, near the baseball diamonds sometime during the night.

At a press conference just before noon, Police Chief Joseph Gaudett said police received a call about the man's body at 7:06 a.m.

Investigators found multiple state identification cards -- none from Connecticut -- on the body, all with the same name, he said. Police would not release the man's name pending notification of his family.

Gaudett said the death appeared to be "medically related," although the cause of death will await an autopsy by the state medical examiner.

A camper at the site, who asked to be identified only as Matt B., said when he woke up at 5:30 a.m. the campsite was abuzz with rumors. When he wandered out of his camping area, he said he saw the dead body. "Somebody found his body as the sun was coming up," he said.

Matt B. said the body, which had been covered in a tarp, was swollen and appeared purple and bruised.

One festivalgoer, who would not give his name, said he saw a green Saturn with Pennsylvania license plates dump the body and drive off, which Gaudett would neither confirm nor deny.

Mike Gula, a student at the University of Massachusetts Amherst, said he was walking through the campsite when someone told him about the dead body nearby. "His back was exposed.



He was face down. I didn't know what to do," he said.

Meanwhile, the events planned in conjunction with the festival's last day in Seaside Park moved forward as planned.

Ken Hays, the Vibes producer and festival organizer, called the event a "sad day" for the concert series, which is in its 14th year.

"We've never had a fatality on site. For 14 years it's been my greatest fear. I'm saddened," he said.



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  posted on 7/27/2009 at 09:14 AM
I actually went on Saturday night by myself, caught Levon and Ratdog. Despite the article, I thought it was a good time. I love Levon's band, although Levon was on doctor's orders not to sing. I guess he blew out his voice when on tour with the Crowes. Still a great set though. Also, perhaps I just caught a good night, but Weir is better at this point with his own band than with the Dead. I thought the Jack Straw was on the better versions I have seen, they did this great little reggae jam in the middle of it. It was also nice to hear him cover Dylan's Silvio. I had reservations about Ratdog in light of recent shows I had seen, but I must say, they were really good.


That being said, I don't know if I am getting older or what, but there is definitely an element on the scene that I have noticed over the past few years that is quite seedy. It seems there are a group, or groups of people who don't really go for the music. I don't know how to say this correctly, but its almost like a traveling homeless kid scene who are not interested in the music, but just want to get as f'ed up as possible and see how much dough they can beg for...or steal. There also seems to be something else on the scene than just your average LSD, mushroom, thing going on. Its almost like people are on something like meth or H. Of course, I am just speculating, but I think I have seen enough concerts to know the difference between when someone in nodding out or just tripping.

I actually had to move my spot a few times because there were kids lighting bottle rockets (out of their teeth) in the middle of several thousand people. I don't care about fireworks, but when you light them off in the middle of several thousand people who are in close quarters, its pretty f'ing stupid. The other thing that annoyed me a little, and I guess its part of the whole scene now, is the glow stick throwing. So I am digging Ratdog, and all of sudden about 100 glowsticks come pouring down from the sky and land all around me. Fine, that happened about ten times, when this guy comes up to me while I am grooving to the band and shoves me in the back, yells at me to pick up all the glow sticks and throw them as far as I can. The guy was obviously tripping. So my response was, "I'm here to listen to the music, not to clean up your glow sticks. You pick 'em up and throw them if you want, I'll be listening to the band play." He just went on picking up his glow sticks. Can someone explain that to me, why pay good money to throw glow sticks? Can't you just do that with the music playing on your radio in your backyard or in some park if you don't have a yard?

 

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  posted on 7/27/2009 at 09:25 AM
Sad Both the death of somebody at this fest (according to accounts of folks that were there the body was beaten and burned) and the fact that there was a presence of thugs who were not there for the music experience but for making a buck, getting up in folks faces, and ripping people off. The stories on the website are disturbing.

 

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  posted on 7/27/2009 at 09:31 AM
agreed. Personally I thi8nk they need to go back to Mariaville NY. That upstate venue was huge and did not have this issue with Nitrous and hard cosmetic drugs. For yrs this was absolute best weekend. I hope they get a hold of the problem before its too late.
 

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  posted on 7/27/2009 at 09:34 AM
Maybe someone with more experience can answer, but is it that hard to make sure that nitrous tanks can't get into a festival? What are they doing with these things, hiding them under a shirt?

 

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  posted on 7/27/2009 at 09:38 AM
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Maybe someone with more experience can answer, but is it that hard to make sure that nitrous tanks can't get into a festival? What are they doing with these things, hiding them under a shirt?
According to the accounts of folks at the fest they were bringing them in UHauls and paying off 'security'. Definitely sounds like the fest organizers have some who are 'working' for them who do not have anybodies interests in mind.

 

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  posted on 7/27/2009 at 09:38 AM
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Sad Both the death of somebody at this fest (according to accounts of folks that were there the body was beaten and burned) and the fact that there was a presence of thugs who were not there for the music experience but for making a buck, getting up in folks faces, and ripping people off. The stories on the website are disturbing.


Scary also because there were families there with little kids. I must say also, in all fairness to the crowd, most of the people I thought were well behaved and just having a good time. The other thing to think about with this death that was reported is that you have to go through a very rough neighborhood to get to this event in Bridgeport. If you are banged up, or even if you are not, and you are just walking around outside the gates of the festival and in the neighborhood, its not the safest place in the world.

 

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  posted on 7/27/2009 at 09:39 AM
Yeah I have to believe the security searches or lack there of was responsible for this. Apparently they let U Hauls in which are stricly not allowed and in certain areas it was a complete free for all reading some of the 1st hand accounts in the Vibes message boards.

They are supposed to check the cars heading in for glass, fireworks, nitrous etc. No way you can conceal those tanks.

 

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  posted on 7/27/2009 at 09:48 AM
It's a drug they call Molly. It's a deviation of ecstasy. They call it getting spun, I think. They are much better taking LSD or Mescaline, IMO.

 

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  posted on 7/27/2009 at 09:56 AM
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Yeah I have to believe the security searches or lack there of was responsible for this. Apparently they let U Hauls in which are stricly not allowed and in certain areas it was a complete free for all reading some of the 1st hand accounts in the Vibes message boards.

They are supposed to check the cars heading in for glass, fireworks, nitrous etc. No way you can conceal those tanks.


What is actually funny is that if you went on the GOTV 2009 website, which I did before I left, they specifically say that ALL cars will be searched thoroughly. That was a load of bull apparently. Security was virtually non-existent with the exception of them ripping your ticket. Like I said, I went alone to the show and I also live nearby, so I didn't bring a bag or anything with me. Security ripped my ticket and waived me through. They were checking people's bags, but it didn't look like they were checking too closely really. If you wanted to, you could have brought in anything. Quite frankly, I even saw a few places in the chain link fence where you could have snuck a tank through or something that size without any security noticing. Even though I would never sneak in, when I first walked up, I actually thought to myself, wow, anyone could probably just sneak in through a crack in one of these fences.

 

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  posted on 7/27/2009 at 10:23 AM
We used to bring a ship into the Port Of Bridgeport every week. You could see Seaside Park from where our vessel docked. As far as I''m concerned, the whole area around there is a $hithole.....why anyone with half a brain would want to have a festival there is beyond me.

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  posted on 7/27/2009 at 10:34 AM
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It's a drug they call Molly. It's a deviation of ecstasy. They call it getting spun, I think. They are much better taking LSD or Mescaline, IMO.


Sounds like MDA from back in the seventies. The effect was like doing Mescaline and Crank together. People do get pretty "eff up" behind it.

 

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  posted on 7/27/2009 at 11:00 AM
I went Saturday and had a good time. There is definately a bad element on the scene these days, certainly not just at the Vibes. Lots of effed up teens and 20-somethings at many festivals and shows. If you go to Phish or DMB you'll see the same thing.

Sounds like security fell apart this year and dropped the ball. They didn't keep enough of the low lifes out of the festival.

The rest of the fest is run well, hopefully they will get this under control.

 

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  posted on 7/27/2009 at 11:08 AM
Sorry to hear about the bad "vibes." And I've seen some extremely "f"d individuals at ABB shows. Definately not Beer'n'Buds. This is a little off topic, but has anybody heard of something called a "sherm stick." I saw something on an episode of "Cops" about it. I never heard of "Molly" either and never took "X", but remember "Maddog" (MDA) quite well.

 

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Sorry to hear about the bad "vibes." And I've seen some extremely "f"d individuals at ABB shows. Definately not Beer'n'Buds. This is a little off topic, but has anybody heard of something called a "sherm stick." I saw something on an episode of "Cops" about it. I never heard of "Molly" either and never took "X", but remember "Maddog" (MDA) quite well.



I saw the "Sherm stick" episode of Cops the other night,myself.I've heard of it around here but,didn't know what it was till i saw it on there...I rem. MDA also....didn't care for it at all.

 

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  posted on 7/27/2009 at 11:50 AM

Jayo Felony - Sherm Stick

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  posted on 7/27/2009 at 11:59 AM
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This is a little off topic, but has anybody heard of something called a "sherm stick." I saw something on an episode of "Cops" about it
joint dipped in embalming fluid - nasty.
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I never heard of "Molly" either and never took "X", but remaember "Maddog" (MDA) quite well.
"Molly' is actually shavings from sassafras root but is being used as base for a lot of what is sold as Ecstasy (which is MDMA - same basic thing as the MDA you remember ... some say MDA more intense)

 

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  posted on 7/27/2009 at 01:38 PM
This is why I'm tooo old for and done with "festival" type stuff...... oh well......

For the older ones like most of us, it is almost some attempt to chase something from our younger daze. For the young 'uns, it is chasing something from the past in a sense, and as said, a license for some to rage on industrial drugs.

Only way I'd feel at ease at a big multi day event was if I was packin' and I don't think people want that in general......

 

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  posted on 7/27/2009 at 02:48 PM
Bridgeport has got to be the skankiest bad-ass city in Connecticut. I would not go to GOTV at that venue. Just because you're in the gates (an on the water), it doesn't mean you are sheltered from the bad elements there.

I have lost interest in festivals anyway, probably due to "mature" age, hating the young tactless crowds, and I can find better shows to spend my money on.

FYI: They don't know if the body was a murder (the swollen and blueness can happen during decomposition). Could be an accidental OD.

 

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  posted on 7/27/2009 at 04:49 PM
Oh my this is horrible, just awful to hear!

 

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  posted on 7/27/2009 at 05:33 PM
Apparently there is a well known group from Philadelphia called the Nitrous Mafia. They are organized criminals who supply nitrous oxide at music festivals to an alarming and growing number of customers.

They bring in tanks of nitrous, fill up balloons and sell them for $5 a shot. They are also ruthless criminals who threaten to kill individuals who hamper their business. Individuals working independently are more afraid of the mafia than of the police.

According to attendees of the GOTV festival, there was a camping area that became known as nitrous alley, where customers lined up day and night. It was common to see up to 10 tanks going in one spot. There were many reports of robberies, probably by strung out customers, and according to web rumors, the person that was killed was strung out and repeatedly tried to rob tanks from the mafia.

The victim had broken arms and legs, was mortally burned in the face by nitrous oxide, and rolled up in a tarp. There are eyewitnesses that saw a car with Pennsylvania plates drop the body off. The police roped off the crime scene in the early morning hours, but the festival was allowed to continue.

I had heard about the use of nitrous at festivals but I had no idea it was this bad. This could ruin the entire music festival scene.

 

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  posted on 7/27/2009 at 05:39 PM
To think some poor mislead kid got tortured over a state of mind is so far from the "Hippe Dream" it is in not even in the same stratosphere...

broken hearted parents somewhere.

the Philly nitrous mob should be mob stomped.

 

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To think some poor mislead kid got tortured over a state of mind is so far from the "Hippe Dream" it is in not even in the same stratosphere...

broken hearted parents somewhere.

the Philly nitrous mob should be mob stomped.
Agree totally here. This has absolutely NOTHING to do with the Hippie Dream I'm familiar with and it makes me sick that these thugs sometimes call themselves the 'Hippy Mafia' ... total oxymoron that. I also don't think that breaking into folks tents and cars and stealing their stuff is in any way associated with the Hippie Dream... nightmare would be more accurate ...





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  posted on 7/27/2009 at 06:38 PM
Sad situation, reminds me of back in the early 70s, for a couple of years there, you had many festivals, and most of them were pretty cool, with people mostly smoking pot and maybe doing a little tripping. Basically people having a good time and listening to some cool music. But towards the end of that era (about 72), you really started to get a "hard core" downer crowd coming to these events, lots of Seconal, Tunial, and Heroin. Almost always ended up, somebody dying from an OD, and pretty soon, these festivals started to get shut down. Hate to see this type of thing happen to GOTV and other similiar events, but unless the festival organizers find a way to "keep out" the "hard core" crowd, then these festival days are numbered. I know back in '80s the Dead had problems with these people coming to their shows, and many venues stopped booking the Dead. I remember the Dead had to put their foot down and remind people that they needed to be cool.

The "jamband" scene has many of the same problems, as there is a certain crowd that see these shows as more a "party", and chances to get "wasted" and could really care less about the music. Couple of ODs here and there, and the venues stop booking these types of shows. It happen before and can happen again. Hate to say, these type of people, could really "kill off" a good scene.

 

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  posted on 7/27/2009 at 08:42 PM
It may be the end of the road for Bridgeport.

Vibes producer considers a move after missing a high note
By Bill Cummings
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Updated: 07/27/2009 05:17:10 PM EDT

BRIDGEPORT -- The four-day Gathering of Vibes music festival at Seaside Park may not return next year.

Ken Hays, the festival organizer and producer, said Monday that attendance during last weekend's event was the lowest in three years, and when all the accounts are settled, may be so low that the event could be forced to move elsewhere.

"We have a contract option to come back if we want to accept that option. There is some thought that we might not," Hays said.

"I'm really worn down right now so there will be no decisions. It will take a few weeks before we see all the numbers. But we didn't have as many as last year, which was down from 2007," Hays said.

The promoter promised to release a definitive statement
in the next few months.

Mayor Bill Finch said he hopes the Gathering of the Vibes stays in the city. "We wouldn't want to see the Vibes go elsewhere, but Ken [Hays] will need to evaluate his own business plan."

"While the national economic downturn may have had an impact on ticket sales, judging from my attendance at the concert it seemed that everyone was enjoying the music and the crowd was having a good time," Finch said.

The festival last year inked a five year contract with the city that reserves Seaside Park for the event. The city receives $40,000 for use of the park and is paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in reimbursement for a variety of expenses, including police overtime.

Although the park appeared
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full throughout the festival, Hays said daily attendance probably averaged about 15,000 people, less than the over 20,000 that came in 2007. He said the show did not come close to selling out.

The promoter blamed lower numbers on the recession, but added the rainy weather over the four days of the festival didn't help either. At one point, lightning struck near a main stage, leaving festival goers to scramble for cover. The headline act, Crosby, Stills & Nash, was forced to end its Sunday night show early because of more thunder and lightning.

"We got a lot of practice on our safety procedures. We used the shuttle buses so people could get refuge," Hays explained.

"But we didn't sell out. We did in 2007 and didn't in 2008. This year was worse. I think it's a combination of the economy and the unemployment rate. I felt ticket prices were reasonable. You could pay $130 for the weekend if you bought in advance," he said.

Hays said the festival would be much less expensive to stage in a rural area. "It's an exceptionally expensive venue and that's the reason most festivals don't happen in cities, but in rural areas," he said. "There are less roads that need police and you don't need miles of fence line."

The festival spent tens of thousands of dollars to ring the venue in Seaside Park with a chain-link fence. Overall, some $2 million was spent to put on the show, including $500,000 to reimburse Bridgeport for police overtime, use of park crews and other city functions.

Hays said this year's festival was difficult from the beginning as he struggled to find musical acts. "Booking bands was challenging because of the recession. Many scaled back or decided not to tour because of the lack of discretionary spending."

Still, Hays said those who attended had an amazing time. "Seaside is a beautiful venue. There is nothing quite like it. We did the best we could with the cards given us."

Finch agreed. "The Gathering of the Vibes was a boost to the city's economy, from fencing contractors to taxicab operators. Where else can concert goers come and enjoy an event of this size in a beautiful waterfront park?"
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