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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 02:52 PM
That is just one side of the story, but if true I have lost some respect for Grace. She is beautiful and talented but if that is how she treats people then I think she is quite the egotistical b!tch! I saw them in 2008 and have seen videos and streams of the new lineup and I have seen no difference in the quality of the music at all. They sound just as good with either lineup to me. She comes off as petty, mean spirited, nasty, and not a team player.

The exact opposite of how Warren Haynes handled the whole Andy Hess situation with class and dignity. Warren is the consummate pro and has no ego. Grace comes off as an immature baby who always gets her way.




quote:The Truth of Why I Left Grace Potter and the Nocturnals
July 14, 2009 by shakeyunderwood

It has been 4 months now since I left the band, to the very day. It has also been 4 months of arduous legal battles for me in trying to get what would be fair compensation for devoting 5 years of my entire life to this band. I recently reread some of the blogs and articles that came out at the time when I left GPN and realized that they don’t really give ample explanation as to why I really left the band. I feel completely justified in holding Grace accountable for the things she said that caused me to leave this band. I feel especially justified given the fact that the band has actually resorted to withholding my final month’s payment as a means of trying to bully me into agreeing to the legal terms that thus far I have rejected. Dear Grace and Company, if you think that forcing me into financial starvation is really going to work in getting me to agree to your legal terms, you are sorely, sorely mistaken.

My terms remain firm: along with the agreements made on NBTW and the other tracks that I have already signed off on, I am standing behind asking for 10% of This Is Somewhere from release through the life of the copyright. Thus far, you have firstly agreed that 10% was a fair number so long as it does not include the retroactive money (ie. money that was made in the publishing from songs appearing on Grey’s Anatomy, One Tree Hill etc….) and would only be for a 5 year period. Then you agreed to include everything but Apologies. After you finally agreed to include Apologies, and the retroactive money, you decided to increase the amount that I owed the band since my leaving……

3 revised band agreements later, brings us to the present where you think that by withholding the last of my 3 month’s severance pay, you can pressure me into agreeing to your terms.

You may ultimately have the winning hand Grace, but I refuse to be pushed around into agreeing to less than what I think is fair.

So let’s just set the record straight.

A year ago, Grace threatened to leave GPN to make a solo record and go on tour with a different band. Later, as she told me, Hollywood completely backed that idea as they apparently wanted to do away with us for some time. At that point, everything changed for me. Needless to say, that didn’t happen. The Summer and Fall came and went and we were still touring. Grace didn’t bother having any sort of follow up to the letter she had given us the prior Spring declaring her intentions of leaving us.

January and Febuary was cleared for us to begin working on the next record. At that point things were good with the band. The morale seemed decent, the tours went well, all systems go. Grace had even mentioned to me about all of us collaborating on the next record. January cruises by with sporadic gigs and no definitive news on making the new record. Next I hear, Hollywood had rejected Grace’s first round of demos that she submitted for the new record – none of which ever were sent to me – which was a first in our career. I was always included in the initial stages of the recording process. I remained silent though. Next news I hear, come early February is that Hollywood is insisting that Grace work with a professional songwriter on the new material. The news bothered me of course because I was never a fan of any corporate entity interfering with our creative process, but since I was already excluded from the process, I took it in stride.

The next bit of news I hear is that Grace is working with some hip hop producer in LA on some of the new songs. This seemed from left field to me obviously since we were no where near that genre. I was becoming frustrated at this point because of being left basically out of the creative/business loop regarding the new album. Given what she had written to us the year prior, I really thought that this was the beginning of the end. I thought GPN was over and that Grace was going solo. At the very least, I thought that we were going to be dropped from Hollywood, which would have put some strain on us, but would have opened some new creative possibilities as well.

That’s when a new bit of news came in. Justin, our manager, called me and said that he had some good news and some bad news. The good news was that T-Bone Burnett was going to produce our next record, the bad news was that I was not going to be on it. Needless to say, that was a HUGE slam. Not only was I going to miss the opportunity to work with T-Bone, I was also going to be excluded from the 2nd major label album that we were putting out. I was burned. Given everything else that had happened that year, I thought that that was it for me. Everyone I talked to, including friends in the industry, assured me that it was nothing personal that that was simply how T-Bone made his records, he had his own band. I knew that Scott’s guitar would be featured on a few of the tracks, but basically it was to be Grace with other musicians. I vehemently exclaimed to Justin that that was NOT a Grace Potter and the Nocturnals record if the Nocturnals didn’t play on it. I was beaten down, fired up, and at a loss as to what to do. I took a few days to meditate on it and decided that, although it was a difficult pill to swallow, I was ready to move forward.

I found out about the T-Bone scenario on a Monday, and met with Grace on a Thursday night. I thought that she would be reassuring that this was a difficult, but right decision, and that we would all be the better for it. Instead I got 3 hours of her berating and accusing me of some of the most ridiculous and insulting and hurtful things that I have ever faced in my life. She took the 5 years that I have devoted to this band and threw it in my face wanting desperately for me to submit. A big part of me did not want to give her that luxury. But she had crossed a line of decency with me that was irreparable. I called her the next morning and left the band.

This is part of the letter that I sent the band the next day. I wrote down some of the things that she had said to me the night prior while it was still fresh in my mind. I didn’t plan on sharing those things with the public initially. At this point, however, I think that I am completely justified in holding her accountable for the things she said to me.

It’s just that, given the regrettable way in which this went down, given the utter nastiness that forced me to leave the band, one would think that the band would have been fair in my legal leaving terms. Sadly that is not the case. They piled on a heaping load of insult to the injury that already had occurred.

Here is an excerpt of the letter I wrote to the band and the transcript of some of the things she said to me that caused me to quit the band:
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When I talked to Grace today, I said that I was leaving the band and “that I need to be explicitly clear about my reasons for leaving. I am not leaving because I have lost faith in our music, I am not leaving because I have lost faith in our business decisions, I am not leaving because of the direction we have decided to go with our music or the business. I am leaving because of what you (Grace) said to me last night. The things you said to me have wounded me beyond repair and I can not recover from something like that. If you (Grace) really feel and believe the things you said to me last night, and you really are that kind of person, then I can not play music with you.”

Grace: I feel like the things you do go against the grain of the rest of us.
Me: Like what? Give me an example.
Grace: This may sound vain, but the things you wear on stage…I think some of the things you do like putting your foot on the monitor or jump on the riser are at really inappropriate moments.

Grace: I feel closer to Chuck and Bobby than I do you. (our tour manager and front of house crew that was on the road for several months, compared to the 6 years that I have known Grace)

Grace: You have incredible integrity, and I feel like I don’t, and your integrity really scares me.

Grace: I don’t think you will ever be happy in this band.
Me: Why don’t you let me worry about my own happiness, I think I am capable of making that judgment.

Grace: I feel the least close to you in the band and I don’t feel this desire to put any effort in making our relationship better. It’s kinda why I never invite you out for drinks or anything. I don’t feel like I have the energy or time to make us better friends.

Grace: I am sick and tired of feeling like I have to explain or justify my decisions to you. I just want everyone to agree with me 510% and not question it.
Me: Grace, you are always going to have to explain things to people. You will always have conflict with people. As long as you have to work with or deal with people, you will have conflict. That’s what a leader does. That’s life….sorry to break it to you.

Grace: You are always asking for time off.
Me: okay, like when, give me an example.
Grace: Well I’ve seen the emails!
Me: You know what, I can think of 2 times that I asked for time off. The last one was because me and Aya knew that we were moving June 1st. Technically, I gave 8 months notice to the date. Then I was getting pissed because I was getting emails pressuring me to change this date more recently and I felt mad because I gave 8 months notice and I was not about to screw over Aya with having to move all of our **** by herself without me. The only other time I can remember asking for time off is when I was supposed to produce No Go Know’s record which fell through. Other than that, given a wedding or 2, I’ve willingly gone out on the road. I think I’ve been pretty damn dedicated to spend so much time away from home.

Grace: You are always asking for more money.
Me: Um, when?
Grace: Well, I don’t know any specifics…..I guess I should have done my research.
Grace: Well you’re always sending pissed off emails to Elsa.
Me: Look Grace, I am not a nasty person. I got upset with Elsa because I had repeatedly told her to take care of a bill that Justin gave me the okay for. She never followed through and so all these bill collectors were calling me…and now my credit is bad and I can’t even get a damn credit card! So I think that justifies me being a little upset over a money issue.

Grace: You are constantly bitching and moaning to MY management and MY business management, and that is really inappropriate.
Me: Grace, they are MY **** ing management too!

Grace: You were constantly on the phone with Aya when we were on tour, rather than hanging out with us.
Me: That’s just so not true. I spent SO much more time with you guys on the road. How can u say that? Like it isn’t hard enough to be on the road away from my girlfriend, whom up until this recent time off, Aya and I haven’t had more than **** ing 2 weeks together at a time!

Me: These accusations are totally unfair and they are just plain wrong! What the **** , why are you attacking me like this?!
Grace: I’m not attacking you, this is just how I feel. Maybe someday you will understand. You’ll look back on this and realize that I was not that far off.

Grace: ….I mean, you were the last to join the band. We had already had things established at that point. I mean, Scott was already a Nocturnal and his sound is an important part of our music. It’s like 60 or 70% our sound, I mean minus my organ and my voice……but you……I mean you are the bass player.
I mean, Bryan, we had a record deal meeting in NYC the same week you joined the band…..
Me: Jesus Grace. I broke my lease and gave up every last dollar I had to join this band, literally! Record deals, yea whatever, but look, it is NOT like I was coming into this big time band that was all established and signed. I struggled with you guys – I remember eating cans of tuna for quite a while before things started “picking up.” Christ if you want to get technical, I am the first “Nocturnal” bass player. Cory played on Original Soul which wasn’t Grace Potter AND THE NOCTURNALS! Whatever, it doesn’t even matter to me, that is just semantics.

Grace: I think you’ve been hitting a lot of wrong notes in your playing lately. I’ve listened to the recordings and seen the youtubes and it’s really been becoming a problem.
Me: Okay, that’s where I draw the line because that is complete **** . And you know it. I **** ing work hard at my playing! I practice technical **** and I play with a metronome! I know where I am at musically and I am a pretty **** ing solid bass player, so let’s not trod down that path because that is just untrue.

Grace: I feel like you are always putting out this intense vibe that is like “leave me the hell alone”
Me: Like when? Give me an example.
Grace: Like when you have your headphones on and are working on your music…you just shouldn’t be doing things like that….
Me: How the **** is that any different then when you lock yourself in the back lounge of the bus and are writing your own songs?!
Grace: Because it is MY music and you are getting paid to play MY music.
Me: So you are saying that I am not allowed to work on my own music?!

Grace: A lot of those business decisions that you commented on really upset me. I didn’t agree with what you were saying and felt like you didn’t have a right to say those things.
Me: I’m not allowed to have an opinion?!

Grace: You were against the song “I want something I want” and guess what, I really like that song. I feel like you are not going to be prepared to play things like that or do things that I want. And trust me, there are going to be A LOT more of those kinds of things coming up.
Me: I played “Apologies” didn’t I? And you know what, I wasn’t that dead set against that song. I didn’t like it as much as your other songs. I didn’t think it was your best song. I think “Falling or Flying” or “Can’t See Through” or some of the new stuff we recorded are WAY better songs. Am I not allowed to have an opinion? Just because I don’t like it doesn’t mean that I won’t play it! That’s part of being in a **** ing band! But I guess I was hoping that I could be that kind of person in your life. That I could say what I think and then you could disagree with me…..and then maybe I’d realize that you were right..or I was right or whatever… That’s just the creative process man. That’s what I was hoping to be a part of, but you’ve made it pretty clear to me that that is not my place and that that is not okay with you.

Me: I feel like you are saying that you want a “YES” man.
Grace: Well if that is how you want to choose view it, then yes, I do want that. I could use more “yeses” in my life.

Me: When I talked to Mike and Justin about the whole T Bone scenario, the best advice they gave me is that I should in no way feel like anyone is forcing me to make any life altering choices right now. But given everything you are saying to me tonight, I really feel like you are forcing me to make a choice.
Grace: You’re right, I am saying you have to choose right now. I mean, you don’t have to decide tonight, take some time to think about this.
Me: That is so **** ed up Grace, why the **** are you forcing me to choose right now? I mean, I’m the one who is getting **** ed over by the T Bone thing – why now?! Why this week of all **** ing weeks to pull this move on me?! This is just so **** ing unfair!

Me: I have this feeling that you want me to leave this band…do you want me to leave?
Grace: There is a big part of me that does want that….

Grace: If I were in your shoes…if I was you, I don’t think I could stick around.

Grace: I mean, Bryan, I will take care of you. I will make sure that you are taken care of until you find something else.
Me: Why do you keep talking like that? You are acting like this is a done deal, I haven’t told you that I am leaving….jesus christ. I want to stick this out. I love playing in this band!

Me: This is breaking my heart Grace, it really is.

Grace: Everyone will remember you as the bass player who played on Nothing But The Water…and you will still get royalties from that and everything.
Me: What the **** dude, why are you talking to me like I am in the past tense?! Jesus…
Grace: Bryan I am saying that whether you stay or go you will get that!

Me: (The next day after telling her that I am leaving) Grace, I went to meet with you last night after hearing the T Bone news with the intentions of moving forward. After all the things you said last night, everything changed for me.

[Edited on 7/14/2009 by sixty8]

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 02:56 PM

I can only imagine the things/feuds that have went on in Bands.

I have not listened to much of her music.

Some folks even get fired by fax.


Good luck to the Bass Player.........

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 03:17 PM
Wow, looks like someone has a major case of the LSD's...Lead Singer Disorder. That's pretty rough.
 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 03:22 PM
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I can only imagine the things/feuds that have went on in Bands.

I have not listened to much of her music.

Some folks even get fired by fax.


Good luck to the Bass Player.........


You mean some people are asked to sober up and change their attitude by fax. I don't remember anyone, even Dickey stating that he was outright fired in the fax. I'm not saying the fax was the right way either, but as far as everything I have seen he was given ultimatums but not fired. He was given a choice to change his ways and come back after one summer tour. I still don't know why he didn't just buck up and go to rehab. After all, he had been forced to rehab in the past missing large parts of summer tours and came back to the band. Also, it was all of the other original musicians in the band combined who decided to give Dickey those ultimatums not just one member.

Maybe if he feels screwed about royalties from the music he helped to create he should follow what Dickey did and sue the band for what he deserves. Dickey gets compensated very well for his contributions to the ABB and that is how it should be. Grace's ex bass player should also be compensated for the music he helped to create IMO.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 03:25 PM
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I can only imagine the things/feuds that have went on in Bands.

I have not listened to much of her music.

Some folks even get fired by fax.


Good luck to the Bass Player.........


You mean some people are asked to sober up and change their attitude by fax. I don't remember anyone, even Dickey stating that he was outright fired in the fax. I'm not saying the fax was the right way either, but as far as everything I have seen he was given ultimatums but not fired. He was given a choice to change his ways and come back after one summer tour. I still don't know why he didn't just buck up and go to rehab. After all, he had been forced to rehab in the past missing large parts of summer tours and came back to the band. Also, it was all of the other original musicians in the band combined who decided to give Dickey those ultimatums not just one member.

Maybe if he feels screwed about royalties from the music he helped to create he should follow what Dickey did and sue the band for what he deserves. Dickey gets compensated very well for his contributions to the ABB and that is how it should be. Grace's ex bass player should also be compensated for the music he helped to create IMO.


Geeze I was only making a joke, excuse me.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 03:26 PM
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Let's keep in mind this is an entirely one-sided and unreliable account... But in any case Grace would hardly be the first band-leader to be an egomaniac. It's practically a requirement for the role. She's the star, he's the bassist... It's her call. Still they need to pay the man his money.
How is this an unreliable account when he was directly involved in the situation?

I don't have a dog in the hunt here, so who knows what the truth is. Bryan's story is not unbelievable, though.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 03:30 PM
send in bluedud!

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 03:44 PM
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I can only imagine the things/feuds that have went on in Bands.

I have not listened to much of her music.

Some folks even get fired by fax.


Good luck to the Bass Player.........


You mean some people are asked to sober up and change their attitude by fax. I don't remember anyone, even Dickey stating that he was outright fired in the fax. I'm not saying the fax was the right way either, but as far as everything I have seen he was given ultimatums but not fired. He was given a choice to change his ways and come back after one summer tour. I still don't know why he didn't just buck up and go to rehab. After all, he had been forced to rehab in the past missing large parts of summer tours and came back to the band. Also, it was all of the other original musicians in the band combined who decided to give Dickey those ultimatums not just one member.

Maybe if he feels screwed about royalties from the music he helped to create he should follow what Dickey did and sue the band for what he deserves. Dickey gets compensated very well for his contributions to the ABB and that is how it should be. Grace's ex bass player should also be compensated for the music he helped to create IMO.


Geeze I was only making a joke, excuse me.


I laughed when I read it Kenny.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 04:03 PM
Nothing like people going public with their personal matters.
 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 04:22 PM
True or not...airing the "dirty laundry" in the public like this is never a wise move,IMO....

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 04:37 PM
Bryan, the former bass player of GPN needs to hire an attorney to tale care of his legal issues with the Noturnals. Other than that, he needs to keep his mouth shut (little late for that). Basically at some point, he'll want to join another band and unfortunately, if I was a bandleader I would hesitate to take him on, simply because I wouild wonder what might get said if things didn't work out. It really doesn't matter whether he's right or wrong, it really is about the way he's handling this situration. Putting a private conservation that he had with Grace Potter on public forum (internet) is not a very smart move, and no doubt it'll cost him when he and attorney try to come up with a fair settlement from GPN.
 

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"Damnit Kenny! This is serious stuff! The world is waiting for the next move! "

"I laughed when I read it Kenny."

"I laughed."

Thanks guys, usually when I post a smiley face....it's following an attempt at humour.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 04:46 PM
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True or not...airing the "dirty laundry" in the public like this is never a wise move,IMO....


So true Hugh. So true. I mean ... this sh*t happens hundreds of times a day. So it's the bass player for Grace Potter ... No offense sixty8, I thought the fax joke was the highlight of this thread.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 04:54 PM
This might be slightly off the point, but, from the few times I've seen Grace Potter and the Nocturnals, I thought he was a lousy bass player. I don't know about their inner drama or what have you, but T-Bone Burnett's idea to bring in different musicians to play on her next album is a very good one. If the dialogue between this guy and Grace is accurate, maybe she could have been more tactful. But she's better off now.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 05:15 PM
Let's face it, not that big a deal.

Grace and her songs aren't the greatest anyway.

Interesting train wreck though.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 05:16 PM
Bryan is a good guy and I am sure there are unresolved issues with the band, as usually parting ways is a difficult anxiety producing process. Certainly, Bryan has a right to write his thoughts about the matter on his blog if he so chooses. And I am sure that he carefully chose his words and felt that he needed to make his issues and concerns public, or I am sure he would have refrained from doing so.

I personally felt and encouraged Grace Potter and the Nocturnals to hire a better bass player as I felt the bass position was the weakest link in the band musically. I also felt that the band needed to up it's musicianship if they wanted longevity in the live music (jamband) scene. This was after seeing the band open for about 10 - 12 Mule shows and also one or two full length Grace headlining shows as well as listening to all her and the band's commercial releases up to date.

I think Grace has a lot of potential and talent to "make it" in the live music world as well as crossing over into more commercial "success." I think her band has achieved a much higher level of musicianship with the additions of Cathrine Popper on bass and Benny Yurco on rhythm guitar than they had when they were a foursome. I so look forward to their next cd which is being produced by T Bone Burnett. I think the band is now complete in the sense that they have a much more interesting musicality than when they were a foursome and I suspect they are going to make a lot of head way in the coming year or two.

I always felt that Grace was a very talented singer but after really delving into her music I learned she is a very very good song writer and I expect the next cd will surpass This is Somewhere which was an excellent cd from a song writing perspective. I think, sometimes female artists get more attention for their looks, and while Grace has a lot to look at and admire, there is a lot of substance in her writing and performances (and the band's performances as well) and I get a little annoyed at the bs that gets directed toward women when they make decisions and take actions that are good for their interests.

If there was an error in how she delivered the news and so forth, well, I can't say, but I can say I support her 100 percent in the changes she has made in the band and I assume that the rest of the members of the band supported her decisions too. Let's face it, every band goes through growing pains. Grace now has a solid very talented pool of musicians to help her move forward in the business and I wish her well and hope that she addresses the issues Bryan raised directly so that at least the public attention around the matter can be a positive one.

It is always a difficult to weigh and balance the needs of the individual versus the group, not just in music, and sometimes the group needs are more important than any particular individual's needs. Moreover, Grace as the "frontman" is in a more difficult position than other members of the group. I have been observing for a few years and I would say that Grace has made a conscious decision to go the path not always traveled. I believe she has had numerous offers from a major label or two but chose instead to make a commitment to work as a lead singer, songwriter, performer in a group of musicians. I think I read somewhere she made a conscious decision in regard to this so again never doubt her commitment to making substantive and substantial real live music and not just seek to be the next superstar. Which I also believe she could be, so like I said, she has my support and moreover, my respect.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 05:17 PM
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I can only imagine the things/feuds that have went on in Bands.

I have not listened to much of her music.

Some folks even get fired by fax.


Good luck to the Bass Player.........


You mean some people are asked to sober up and change their attitude by fax. I don't remember anyone, even Dickey stating that he was outright fired in the fax. I'm not saying the fax was the right way either, but as far as everything I have seen he was given ultimatums but not fired. He was given a choice to change his ways and come back after one summer tour. I still don't know why he didn't just buck up and go to rehab. After all, he had been forced to rehab in the past missing large parts of summer tours and came back to the band. Also, it was all of the other original musicians in the band combined who decided to give Dickey those ultimatums not just one member.

Maybe if he feels screwed about royalties from the music he helped to create he should follow what Dickey did and sue the band for what he deserves. Dickey gets compensated very well for his contributions to the ABB and that is how it should be. Grace's ex bass player should also be compensated for the music he helped to create IMO.


Geeze I was only making a joke, excuse me.


I realize that Kenny. I'm not busting on you in any way, just pointing out the differences. Sorry if it came off different than I intended. I also didn't intend to bash Dickey in any way here, I was just making a comparison.

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 05:19 PM
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True or not...airing the "dirty laundry" in the public like this is never a wise move,IMO....


So true Hugh. So true. I mean ... this sh*t happens hundreds of times a day. So it's the bass player for Grace Potter ... No offense sixty8, I thought the fax joke was the highlight of this thread.


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I realize that Kenny. I'm not busting on you in any way, just pointing out the differences. Sorry if it came off different than I intended. I also didn't intend to bash Dickey in any way here, I was just making a comparison.

[Edited on 7/14/2009 by sixty8]



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women....
 

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Catherine Popper's playing bass with Grace now? I saw her once with Ryan Adams, and I liked her playing, and perhaps some additional female vocals might open up a whole lot more...

As far as band politics, shoot, what goes on in little local cover bands is frustrating enough, never mind national acts...

 

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i didnt really sound that bad to me. just kind of like some tension built up over time in touring together. these things happen and i am sure both will be better off in the long run.

he does deserve to get the cash he is owed.

 

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First of all, I can't get past this little gem;

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Grace: "You have incredible integrity, and I feel like I don’t, and your integrity really scares me."



Right.


I think Grace may be too timid. After seeing her live, I've never thought her band served her all that well....ever. In the case of Derek Trucks and Stevie Ray, they did the right thing in keeping their original peeps. With Grace, I've thought that she needed a better band around her for a long time. Grace would be an idiot not to take T- Bone up on his offer at this point in her career. The bass player should be paid, even though it looks like his legal ducks weren't in a row before all of this happened, and Grace should step up and finally put a more than mediocre band behind her.

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 08:00 PM
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Maybe if he feels screwed about royalties from the music he helped to create he should follow what Dickey did and sue the band for what he deserves. Dickey gets compensated very well for his contributions to the ABB and that is how it should be. Grace's ex bass player should also be compensated for the music he helped to create IMO.


Good luck.... Signed to Hollywood/UMG. Between the advances, tour support and recoupables. Be lucky if he will get his mechanicals. Consider it a life lesson and move on.

Let's see from Grace's POV: play with T-Bone Burnett AND his band or my mediocre backing band? I could get dropped and never have another chance at this. She would be dumb to not go for it. The band is NOT the Nocturals - it is GRACE POTTER & the Nocturnals......

Welcome to Show Business folks ........

 

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Bryan, the former bass player of GPN needs to hire an attorney to tale care of his legal issues with the Noturnals. Other than that, he needs to keep his mouth shut (little late for that). Basically at some point, he'll want to join another band and unfortunately, if I was a bandleader I would hesitate to take him on, simply because I wouild wonder what might get said if things didn't work out. It really doesn't matter whether he's right or wrong, it really is about the way he's handling this situration. Putting a private conservation that he had with Grace Potter on public forum (internet) is not a very smart move, and no doubt it'll cost him when he and attorney try to come up with a fair settlement from GPN.


Thats the first thing I thought...don't be airing this out and keep your mouth shut and get a lawyer. Bad move on his part, no matter who is right or wrong in this issue.

 

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