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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 01:46 PM
http://bryandondero.com/2009/07/14/the-truth-of-why-i-left-grace-potter-and -the-nocturnals/

Check this link out. Here are some clips from it. It shows you some behind-the-scenes stuff of the diva herself.

Grace (to Bryan): This may sound vain, but the things you wear on stage…I think some of the things you do like putting your foot on the monitor or jump on the riser are at really inappropriate moments....

Grace: I am sick and tired of feeling like I have to explain or justify my decisions to you. I just want everyone to agree with me 510% and not question it.
Me: Grace, you are always going to have to explain things to people. You will always have conflict with people. As long as you have to work with or deal with people, you will have conflict. That’s what a leader does. That’s life….sorry to break it to you....

Grace: ....It’s like 60 or 70% our sound, I mean minus my organ and my voice……but you……I mean you are the bass player.

Grace: I feel like you are always putting out this intense vibe that is like “leave me the hell alone”
Me: Like when? Give me an example.
Grace: Like when you have your headphones on and are working on your music…you just shouldn’t be doing things like that….
Me: How the **** is that any different then when you lock yourself in the back lounge of the bus and are writing your own songs?!
Grace: Because it is MY music and you are getting paid to play MY music.
Me: So you are saying that I am not allowed to work on my own music?!





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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 01:59 PM
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Grace: ....It’s like 60 or 70% our sound, I mean minus my organ and my voice……but you……I mean you are the bass player.



If these conversation bits are true and she did say this, as a bass player, I have to say, hey, girl, you just go ahead and play on without one.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 02:11 PM
It sounds like they are in a band or something.


This is too good to be true, and too good to not post the whole thing.

This scenario is not unusual but the norm with groups that make it to a certain level with a specific artist being at the core of the band. The music exec weasels will always try to break the old band up at some point. Heck, it even was thrown at the Derek Trucks Band.

Her's a clue- you are the bass player in a band that has someone elses name in the title. You better be a damn unique bass player who writes a ton of the more popular songs otherwise being a bump on a log....

Then, on the other hand, we supposedly have Grace Potter being quoted as saying this;

Grace: "You have incredible integrity, and I feel like I don’t, and your integrity really scares me."

Really??

Hey kids, you want to be in a band???


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The Truth of Why I Left Grace Potter and the Nocturnals
July 14, 2009 by shakeyunderwood

It has been 4 months now since I left the band, to the very day. It has also been 4 months of arduous legal battles for me in trying to get what would be fair compensation for devoting 5 years of my entire life to this band. I recently reread some of the blogs and articles that came out at the time when I left GPN and realized that they don’t really give ample explanation as to why I really left the band. I feel completely justified in holding Grace accountable for the things she said that caused me to leave this band. I feel especially justified given the fact that the band has actually resorted to withholding my final month’s payment as a means of trying to bully me into agreeing to the legal terms that thus far I have rejected. Dear Grace and Company, if you think that forcing me into financial starvation is really going to work in getting me to agree to your legal terms, you are sorely, sorely mistaken.

My terms remain firm: along with the agreements made on NBTW and the other tracks that I have already signed off on, I am standing behind asking for 10% of This Is Somewhere from release through the life of the copyright. Thus far, you have firstly agreed that 10% was a fair number so long as it does not include the retroactive money (ie. money that was made in the publishing from songs appearing on Grey’s Anatomy, One Tree Hill etc….) and would only be for a 5 year period. Then you agreed to include everything but Apologies. After you finally agreed to include Apologies, and the retroactive money, you decided to increase the amount that I owed the band since my leaving……

3 revised band agreements later, brings us to the present where you think that by withholding the last of my 3 month’s severance pay, you can pressure me into agreeing to your terms.

You may ultimately have the winning hand Grace, but I refuse to be pushed around into agreeing to less than what I think is fair.

So let’s just set the record straight.

A year ago, Grace threatened to leave GPN to make a solo record and go on tour with a different band. Later, as she told me, Hollywood completely backed that idea as they apparently wanted to do away with us for some time. At that point, everything changed for me. Needless to say, that didn’t happen. The Summer and Fall came and went and we were still touring. Grace didn’t bother having any sort of follow up to the letter she had given us the prior Spring declaring her intentions of leaving us.

January and Febuary was cleared for us to begin working on the next record. At that point things were good with the band. The morale seemed decent, the tours went well, all systems go. Grace had even mentioned to me about all of us collaborating on the next record. January cruises by with sporadic gigs and no definitive news on making the new record. Next I hear, Hollywood had rejected Grace’s first round of demos that she submitted for the new record – none of which ever were sent to me – which was a first in our career. I was always included in the initial stages of the recording process. I remained silent though. Next news I hear, come early February is that Hollywood is insisting that Grace work with a professional songwriter on the new material. The news bothered me of course because I was never a fan of any corporate entity interfering with our creative process, but since I was already excluded from the process, I took it in stride.

The next bit of news I hear is that Grace is working with some hip hop producer in LA on some of the new songs. This seemed from left field to me obviously since we were no where near that genre. I was becoming frustrated at this point because of being left basically out of the creative/business loop regarding the new album. Given what she had written to us the year prior, I really thought that this was the beginning of the end. I thought GPN was over and that Grace was going solo. At the very least, I thought that we were going to be dropped from Hollywood, which would have put some strain on us, but would have opened some new creative possibilities as well.

That’s when a new bit of news came in. Justin, our manager, called me and said that he had some good news and some bad news. The good news was that T-Bone Burnett was going to produce our next record, the bad news was that I was not going to be on it. Needless to say, that was a HUGE slam. Not only was I going to miss the opportunity to work with T-Bone, I was also going to be excluded from the 2nd major label album that we were putting out. I was burned. Given everything else that had happened that year, I thought that that was it for me. Everyone I talked to, including friends in the industry, assured me that it was nothing personal that that was simply how T-Bone made his records, he had his own band. I knew that Scott’s guitar would be featured on a few of the tracks, but basically it was to be Grace with other musicians. I vehemently exclaimed to Justin that that was NOT a Grace Potter and the Nocturnals record if the Nocturnals didn’t play on it. I was beaten down, fired up, and at a loss as to what to do. I took a few days to meditate on it and decided that, although it was a difficult pill to swallow, I was ready to move forward.

I found out about the T-Bone scenario on a Monday, and met with Grace on a Thursday night. I thought that she would be reassuring that this was a difficult, but right decision, and that we would all be the better for it. Instead I got 3 hours of her berating and accusing me of some of the most ridiculous and insulting and hurtful things that I have ever faced in my life. She took the 5 years that I have devoted to this band and threw it in my face wanting desperately for me to submit. A big part of me did not want to give her that luxury. But she had crossed a line of decency with me that was irreparable. I called her the next morning and left the band.

This is part of the letter that I sent the band the next day. I wrote down some of the things that she had said to me the night prior while it was still fresh in my mind. I didn’t plan on sharing those things with the public initially. At this point, however, I think that I am completely justified in holding her accountable for the things she said to me.

It’s just that, given the regrettable way in which this went down, given the utter nastiness that forced me to leave the band, one would think that the band would have been fair in my legal leaving terms. Sadly that is not the case. They piled on a heaping load of insult to the injury that already had occurred.

Here is an excerpt of the letter I wrote to the band and the transcript of some of the things she said to me that caused me to quit the band:
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When I talked to Grace today, I said that I was leaving the band and “that I need to be explicitly clear about my reasons for leaving. I am not leaving because I have lost faith in our music, I am not leaving because I have lost faith in our business decisions, I am not leaving because of the direction we have decided to go with our music or the business. I am leaving because of what you (Grace) said to me last night. The things you said to me have wounded me beyond repair and I can not recover from something like that. If you (Grace) really feel and believe the things you said to me last night, and you really are that kind of person, then I can not play music with you.”

Grace: I feel like the things you do go against the grain of the rest of us.
Me: Like what? Give me an example.
Grace: This may sound vain, but the things you wear on stage…I think some of the things you do like putting your foot on the monitor or jump on the riser are at really inappropriate moments.

Grace: I feel closer to Chuck and Bobby than I do you. (our tour manager and front of house crew that was on the road for several months, compared to the 6 years that I have known Grace)

Grace: You have incredible integrity, and I feel like I don’t, and your integrity really scares me.

Grace: I don’t think you will ever be happy in this band.
Me: Why don’t you let me worry about my own happiness, I think I am capable of making that judgment.

Grace: I feel the least close to you in the band and I don’t feel this desire to put any effort in making our relationship better. It’s kinda why I never invite you out for drinks or anything. I don’t feel like I have the energy or time to make us better friends.

Grace: I am sick and tired of feeling like I have to explain or justify my decisions to you. I just want everyone to agree with me 510% and not question it.
Me: Grace, you are always going to have to explain things to people. You will always have conflict with people. As long as you have to work with or deal with people, you will have conflict. That’s what a leader does. That’s life….sorry to break it to you.

Grace: You are always asking for time off.
Me: okay, like when, give me an example.
Grace: Well I’ve seen the emails!
Me: You know what, I can think of 2 times that I asked for time off. The last one was because me and Aya knew that we were moving June 1st. Technically, I gave 8 months notice to the date. Then I was getting pissed because I was getting emails pressuring me to change this date more recently and I felt mad because I gave 8 months notice and I was not about to screw over Aya with having to move all of our **** by herself without me. The only other time I can remember asking for time off is when I was supposed to produce No Go Know’s record which fell through. Other than that, given a wedding or 2, I’ve willingly gone out on the road. I think I’ve been pretty damn dedicated to spend so much time away from home.

Grace: You are always asking for more money.
Me: Um, when?
Grace: Well, I don’t know any specifics…..I guess I should have done my research.
Grace: Well you’re always sending pissed off emails to Elsa.
Me: Look Grace, I am not a nasty person. I got upset with Elsa because I had repeatedly told her to take care of a bill that Justin gave me the okay for. She never followed through and so all these bill collectors were calling me…and now my credit is bad and I can’t even get a damn credit card! So I think that justifies me being a little upset over a money issue.

Grace: You are constantly bitching and moaning to MY management and MY business management, and that is really inappropriate.
Me: Grace, they are MY **** ing management too!

Grace: You were constantly on the phone with Aya when we were on tour, rather than hanging out with us.
Me: That’s just so not true. I spent SO much more time with you guys on the road. How can u say that? Like it isn’t hard enough to be on the road away from my girlfriend, whom up until this recent time off, Aya and I haven’t had more than **** ing 2 weeks together at a time!

Me: These accusations are totally unfair and they are just plain wrong! What the **** , why are you attacking me like this?!
Grace: I’m not attacking you, this is just how I feel. Maybe someday you will understand. You’ll look back on this and realize that I was not that far off.

Grace: ….I mean, you were the last to join the band. We had already had things established at that point. I mean, Scott was already a Nocturnal and his sound is an important part of our music. It’s like 60 or 70% our sound, I mean minus my organ and my voice……but you……I mean you are the bass player.
I mean, Bryan, we had a record deal meeting in NYC the same week you joined the band…..
Me: Jesus Grace. I broke my lease and gave up every last dollar I had to join this band, literally! Record deals, yea whatever, but look, it is NOT like I was coming into this big time band that was all established and signed. I struggled with you guys – I remember eating cans of tuna for quite a while before things started “picking up.” Christ if you want to get technical, I am the first “Nocturnal” bass player. Cory played on Original Soul which wasn’t Grace Potter AND THE NOCTURNALS! Whatever, it doesn’t even matter to me, that is just semantics.

Grace: I think you’ve been hitting a lot of wrong notes in your playing lately. I’ve listened to the recordings and seen the youtubes and it’s really been becoming a problem.
Me: Okay, that’s where I draw the line because that is complete **** . And you know it. I **** ing work hard at my playing! I practice technical **** and I play with a metronome! I know where I am at musically and I am a pretty **** ing solid bass player, so let’s not trod down that path because that is just untrue.

Grace: I feel like you are always putting out this intense vibe that is like “leave me the hell alone”
Me: Like when? Give me an example.
Grace: Like when you have your headphones on and are working on your music…you just shouldn’t be doing things like that….
Me: How the **** is that any different then when you lock yourself in the back lounge of the bus and are writing your own songs?!
Grace: Because it is MY music and you are getting paid to play MY music.
Me: So you are saying that I am not allowed to work on my own music?!

Grace: A lot of those business decisions that you commented on really upset me. I didn’t agree with what you were saying and felt like you didn’t have a right to say those things.
Me: I’m not allowed to have an opinion?!

Grace: You were against the song “I want something I want” and guess what, I really like that song. I feel like you are not going to be prepared to play things like that or do things that I want. And trust me, there are going to be A LOT more of those kinds of things coming up.
Me: I played “Apologies” didn’t I? And you know what, I wasn’t that dead set against that song. I didn’t like it as much as your other songs. I didn’t think it was your best song. I think “Falling or Flying” or “Can’t See Through” or some of the new stuff we recorded are WAY better songs. Am I not allowed to have an opinion? Just because I don’t like it doesn’t mean that I won’t play it! That’s part of being in a **** ing band! But I guess I was hoping that I could be that kind of person in your life. That I could say what I think and then you could disagree with me…..and then maybe I’d realize that you were right..or I was right or whatever… That’s just the creative process man. That’s what I was hoping to be a part of, but you’ve made it pretty clear to me that that is not my place and that that is not okay with you.

Me: I feel like you are saying that you want a “YES” man.
Grace: Well if that is how you want to choose view it, then yes, I do want that. I could use more “yeses” in my life.

Me: When I talked to Mike and Justin about the whole T Bone scenario, the best advice they gave me is that I should in no way feel like anyone is forcing me to make any life altering choices right now. But given everything you are saying to me tonight, I really feel like you are forcing me to make a choice.
Grace: You’re right, I am saying you have to choose right now. I mean, you don’t have to decide tonight, take some time to think about this.
Me: That is so **** ed up Grace, why the **** are you forcing me to choose right now? I mean, I’m the one who is getting **** ed over by the T Bone thing – why now?! Why this week of all **** ing weeks to pull this move on me?! This is just so **** ing unfair!

Me: I have this feeling that you want me to leave this band…do you want me to leave?
Grace: There is a big part of me that does want that….

Grace: If I were in your shoes…if I was you, I don’t think I could stick around.

Grace: I mean, Bryan, I will take care of you. I will make sure that you are taken care of until you find something else.
Me: Why do you keep talking like that? You are acting like this is a done deal, I haven’t told you that I am leaving….jesus christ. I want to stick this out. I love playing in this band!

Me: This is breaking my heart Grace, it really is.

Grace: Everyone will remember you as the bass player who played on Nothing But The Water…and you will still get royalties from that and everything.
Me: What the **** dude, why are you talking to me like I am in the past tense?! Jesus…
Grace: Bryan I am saying that whether you stay or go you will get that!

Me: (The next day after telling her that I am leaving) Grace, I went to meet with you last night after hearing the T Bone news with the intentions of moving forward. After all the things you said last night, everything changed for me.




 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 02:22 PM
She's known as a bit of a brat. Her daddy is her manager. She lives with her parents and says she hopes to live with them forever...daddy's little girl.
 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 02:22 PM
Honestly, I think Grace may be too timid. After seeing her live, I've never thought her band served her all that well. In the case of Derek Trucks and Stevie ray, they did the right thing in keeping their peeps. With Grace, I've thought that she needed a better band around her for a long time. Grace would be an idiot not to take T-bone up on his offer at this point in her career.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 02:27 PM
Also, this is from one side.

Dickey and Butch ring a bell?

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 02:28 PM
Never knew bass players were so little thought of.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 02:45 PM
That is just one side of the story, but if true I have lost some respect for Grace. She is beautiful and talented but if that is how she treats people then I think she is quite the egotistical b!tch! I saw them in 2008 and have seen videos and streams of the new lineup and I have seen no difference in the quality of the music at all. They sound just as good with either lineup to me. She comes off as petty, mean spirited, nasty, and not a team player.

The exact opposite of how Warren Haynes handled the whole Andy Hess situation with class and dignity. Warren is the consummate pro and has no ego. Grace comes off as an immature baby who always gets her way.

[Edited on 7/14/2009 by sixty8]

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 02:46 PM
As the drummer in many bands over the years with many differences of opinions, egos, arrogance and any other adjective that you can come up with, the one thing that was never done was air your laundry outside the compound. For as much as I like the brothers the squabbling always has and still does leave a bad taste. Grace and her ex bass player should get together, come to an agrement and go on with there respective careers and stop ariing this stuff publically. My 2 cents.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 02:46 PM
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Monetary issues aside, he shouldn't be airing dirty laundry in a public forum, that's major sour grapes and since what he posted is fairly damaging to the group, might make it even tougher for him to get compensated.
Agree about his use of this type of forum to get things off his chest. I would imagine that things like this happen all the time within a band just as they do with other types of jobs and more personal relationships. Going public with this could make it difficult for him to get with another successful band down the road.

[Edited on 7/14/2009 by lolasdeb]

 

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Monetary issues aside, he shouldn't be airing dirty laundry in a public forum, that's major sour grapes and since what he posted is fairly damaging to the group, might make it even tougher for him to get compensated.
Agree about his use of this type of forum to get things off his chest. I would imagine that things like this happen all the time within b and just as they do with other types of jobs and more personal relationships. Going public with this could make it difficult for him to get with another successful band down the road.


I know I certainly wouldn't want to be her bass player...

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 02:56 PM
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Monetary issues aside, he shouldn't be airing dirty laundry in a public forum, that's major sour grapes and since what he posted is fairly damaging to the group, might make it even tougher for him to get compensated.
Agree about his use of this type of forum to get things off his chest. I would imagine that things like this happen all the time within b and just as they do with other types of jobs and more personal relationships. Going public with this could make it difficult for him to get with another successful band down the road.


The forum he used is his personal blog.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 03:00 PM
The reason he airs his gripe here is because according to him the other side(Grace) who has a much bigger forum to air her side is lying. If she is lying about him and lying about how everything was handled in the press than he has no recourse other than to defend himself wherever he can. Just my opinion. If my ex bandmate treated me that way and was lying to the press about why I left the band and trying to screw me out of what I earned in the band I would also defend myself to the fullest everywhere I could.

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Thats show business.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 03:08 PM
By STEVE BARNES, Senior writer
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First published: Wednesday, June 24, 2009

ALBANY -- The headlining band for Thursday's Alive at Five concert forced the originally scheduled opening act out of the gig, an unexpected and rare move for the show, according to people involved in the arrangements.

Los-Angeles-based representatives of Grace Potter and the Nocturnals, the band that has top billing Thursday night, last week refused to allow high-energy electric violinist Deni Bonet to open the concert even though contracts for both bands had been signed for months.

"They said they didn't want her," said Melli Rose, a staffer in the city's Office of Special Events. Most concert contracts include language allowing a headlining band veto power over an opener, but experts in the business say it is rarely exercised and almost never after contracts have been signed. The Alive at Five series lineup for 11 weeks is typically arranged between February and April.

Officials at the city special-events office and a concert promoter who booked many Albany events in the past said they cannot recall the situation occurring in at least the past decade...

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 03:48 PM
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The reason he airs his gripe here is because according to him the other side(Grace) who has a much bigger forum to air her side is lying. If she is lying about him and lying about how everything was handled in the press than he has no recourse other than to defend himself wherever he can. Just my opinion. If my ex bandmate treated me that way and was lying to the press about why I left the band and trying to screw me out of what I earned in the band I would also defend myself to the fullest everywhere I could


He said she said will get him nowhere. Sue her ass if he feels wrong done by and move on. Never a good thing moving forward to burn the bridges behind you. Its all very immature IMO.

 

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Monetary issues aside, he shouldn't be airing dirty laundry in a public forum, that's major sour grapes and since what he posted is fairly damaging to the group, might make it even tougher for him to get compensated.
Agree about his use of this type of forum to get things off his chest. I would imagine that things like this happen all the time within b and just as they do with other types of jobs and more personal relationships. Going public with this could make it difficult for him to get with another successful band down the road.
The forum he used is his personal blog.
I realize it was his personal blog but being on the internet makes it a public forum. Putting things out here like this just makes it seem like the same type of fodder that feeds the celeb mag business to me. I would definitely expect to be paid for work I'd done but would leave that to my lawyer to take care of - not blog about it (which might be viewed by a potential future band as snarky ... especially the direct quote thing) Hopefully all will work out for the best for everyone involved here. Somebody else in this thread made a comment re: Grace ... has she also been publishing stuff about this split?

 

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Monetary issues aside, he shouldn't be airing dirty laundry in a public forum, that's major sour grapes and since what he posted is fairly damaging to the group, might make it even tougher for him to get compensated.
Agree about his use of this type of forum to get things off his chest. I would imagine that things like this happen all the time within b and just as they do with other types of jobs and more personal relationships. Going public with this could make it difficult for him to get with another successful band down the road.
The forum he used is his personal blog.
I realize it was his personal blog but being on the internet makes it a public forum. Putting things out here like this just makes it seem like the same type of fodder that feeds the celeb mag business to me. I would definitely expect to be paid for work I'd done but would leave that to my lawyer to take care of - not blog about it (which might be viewed by a potential future band as snarky ... especially the direct quote thing) Hopefully all will work out for the best for everyone involved here. Somebody else in this thread made a comment re: Grace ... has she also been publishing stuff about this split?



Even if the other side were bad mouthing and lying about you in the press? I don't think many could hold back forever if only one side of the story were being told and they didn't agree with it.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 05:17 PM
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Even if the other side were bad mouthing and lying about you in the press? I don't think many could hold back forever if only one side of the story were being told and they didn't agree with it.
That's what I've been asking. Wasn't even aware of anything going on here until this thread. Has Grace's camp been also slinging arrows publicly?

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 05:32 PM
Here is how his blog starts so I'm assuming that Grace had given a different story. Of course we all know what assuming can do to you.

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It has been 4 months now since I left the band, to the very day. It has also been 4 months of arduous legal battles for me in trying to get what would be fair compensation for devoting 5 years of my entire life to this band. I recently reread some of the blogs and articles that came out at the time when I left GPN and realized that they don’t really give ample explanation as to why I really left the band.
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Monetary issues aside, he shouldn't be airing dirty laundry in a public forum, that's major sour grapes and since what he posted is fairly damaging to the group, might make it even tougher for him to get compensated.
Agree about his use of this type of forum to get things off his chest. I would imagine that things like this happen all the time within b and just as they do with other types of jobs and more personal relationships. Going public with this could make it difficult for him to get with another successful band down the road.


The forum he used is his personal blog.


Which is a public forum. It's clear from the tone and from the depth of the post that it's meant for public consumption.


Obviously. We're talking about ithere. This is not his personal blog.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 07:49 PM
I have not seen Grace give any public statements as to why he left the band nor say anything negative about him. Given that, I think its classless to do what he did. First of all, did he tape the conversation? Maybe he did. If so that is in and of itself classless. If not, how do we even know its accurate. Second of all, he clearly excerpts it so we do not even know the context of what she said or, for that matter, what he said to prompt those statements. Finally, and perhaps most importantly, people say things out of anger they regret. They don't expect those sorts of conversations to be made public. Therefore he has betrayed her. I suspect he is most bitter over the legal fight he is having. I am not taking Grace's side here at all but there are surely two sides to every story and it is unfair to judge her based on this self serving diatribe.

That said, it does not surprise me what Hollywood records is trying to do. It's a common story. Grace is the star but I hope she does not destroy her integrity by dumping her band.

 

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A fine example of why lawyers in the music industry makes lots of money.

For every band that you see release an album, countless others are signed and end up in legal hell for money they owe, money they are owed and the rights to their music when it isn't released or supported. Lies are common and promises thrown around endlessly. Personal changes occur in the record company and those that supported you are gone. You are given to someone else who could care less and you slip between the cracks. Of course there will be at least a year of lies before you realize that you are no longer wanted.

Often the record company will want personal changes to a group. Sometimes they are right and know best. Loyalty is great and has been a fault of mine my entire life. Ultimately I stay loyal to someone who ends up screwing me over. If Jeff Healey for instance had changed, it would have benefitted him. The other two were average at best and nowhere near his talent level. And to be honest, they looked like two extras from a Soprano's episode.

A friend of mine had a band that all the labels were interested in. but they were all saying the same thing. Lose the lead guitarist. Again I agreed wholeheartedly. They stayed loyal and signed with a smaller label and likely cost themselves a career. Few years later, the band breaks up. they don't see each other or play together in any way. Lost money, potential fame and most importantly the chance to get the music out to people. What every artist wants.

Some fans will stay loyal to a member but if the greater talent continues then it won't really matter in the end. Sucks sometimes but it's true.

I think he will regret airing his story this way. Makes him undesirable to other potential employment.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 11:04 PM
Berry Oakley, Lamar Williams, Allen Woody, Oteil Burbridge.....shall I keep going? Bass players are an important part of a band and it's sound. Of course I'm partial to bass players and drummers.

 

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