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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 01:09 AM


[Edited on 8/20/2009 by jerryphilbob]

 
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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 01:43 AM
Its plastic

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 06:16 AM
Thanks for reminding me to pick up some more aluminum foil at the store.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 06:24 AM
Just for grins, why is a single world currency a bad thing (I know the dollar's collapse is bad, but these two things are independent)? Or is this just fear of the unknown?
 

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Just for grins, why is a single world currency a bad thing (I know the dollar's collapse is bad, but these two things are independent)? Or is this just fear of the unknown?
I would be very interested in seeing JPB's answer to your question myself, Brock ... in a your-own-words non-cut and paste type of way. (and I am not advocating NEW WORLD CURRENCY... just interested in what JPB may have to say here that doesn't involve a google sound bite)
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“We are discussing both the use of other national currencies, including the ruble, as a reserve currency, as well as supranational currencies,” the Russian leader said at a news conference.
I kind of had to chuckle at this whole thing since the ruble and Russian economy as a whole have never seemed to me to be that healthy for the Russians ...

BTW - does that guy and his smile remind anybody else of Bob (you know - smiling Bob the viagra guy)?

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 07:09 AM
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Just for grins, why is a single world currency a bad thing (I know the dollar's collapse is bad, but these two things are independent)? Or is this just fear of the unknown?




Just one in a number of signs of the "New World Order" being ushered in by "The Bilderberg Group" a group of high profile all powerful beings that will take over the world.


 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 07:43 AM
Darn, just when I invested in Ameros along comes Vladimir's Howdy Doodey with a shiney new coin.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 07:43 AM
Actually the two are intertwined. With a strong dollar, the US population would never agree to a one world currency. So, with the collapse of the dollar, we will have no choice. I can hear Obama now "this is the ONLY way". With the collapse of the dollar it will open the door for the new world currency.

A one world currency totally destroys our sovereignty and pretty much makes us dependent on the world for our monetary policy. We will no longer be able to mold our fiscal policy to what is best for the USA. If we need to contract the money supply to help our economy, and the rest of the world doesn't, well, we won't be able to do it. We are pretty much handing over our rights to the rest of the world.

You are pretty much opening up the door for a one world government. That is what they want. Just like you are seeing a push for global governance on global warming. We will no longer be able to do the things that are best for us, but must cow tow to what someone in the United Nations wants instead of what is best for the USA.

The end of the dollar is coming and the sheep are going to be trampled. I have been warning of this for almost a year and now the very things I have been talking about are starting to take hold. Get ready for hyperinflation and the collapse of the dollar. It is coming and anyone that says these things are "tin foil" is simply blind to what is happening in the rest of the world. China, Russia, and several other countries are on board with this new currency and it won't be long now. They are already printing the new currency and you better have gold or silver or other currencies to trade in for the new world currency, dollars won't be worth shiit.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 08:04 AM


ATTENTION ALL PLANETS OF THE SOLAR FEDERATION...WE HAVE ASSUMED CONTROL...

Well, 2112 isn't that far off, it could happen...

Speaking of science fiction, as one who's always thought that science fiction writers actually do a decent job of foretelling the future (their job, really), I've always pictured the other side of the whole one world deal to be like the Earth in the Star Trek universe. All peaceful, prosperous, no war, etc. Hopefully someone can come up with the food replicator sooner, though. Would one of those things be awesome for the munchies or what?

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 08:06 AM
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Man, that Dmitry Medvede is such a smart guy. Wish we could trade him for Obama.


And a draft pick

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 08:06 AM
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They are already printing the new currency and you better have gold or silver or other currencies to trade in for the new world currency, dollars won't be worth shiit.

Francs no longer a viable option?

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 08:23 AM
I wonder if those asking questions on this subject are doing so to put someone on the spot, or from a genuine desire for discussion. Its easy to pass this off as tinfoil hat territory, and maybe (hopefully) that is where it will stay.

But I wonder if many understand the goals and attitudes of central bankers, and just how much of what we take for granted as freedoms are impacted by their actions. I wonder if the history of US Presidents fighting the establishment of various central banks is well known.

It is no small thing to keep in mind the words of Mayer Amschel Rothschild, member of what has been the world's preeminent banking family for centuries, who in 1838 was quoted: "Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes the laws." Nothing has changed in regard to how central bankers operate. Witness the Fed's actions over the past year.

Since 1913 our gov't has permitted our currency to be issued and controlled by a private group, whose membership is secret. The amount of money in circulation, inflation and the resulting loss of value in your savings, interest rates you pay, lending rates between banks, credit flows, the amount of leverage permitted to banks on their investments are all controlled by this group. What they've done to the US economy, business cycles, and the value of your earnings is bad enough. Imagine those policies being wielded by an international group with a "world" vision.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 08:50 AM
Remember the non-Biblical "golden rule".

"He with the gold rules". In my mind, the era of "nations - states" has the dominate political entity is coming to end. We really are heading into a "one world" government, and going to one that very corporate in nature. And the bankers wil be it's kings. A person's alllegence will be to his "corporate masters" that keep him/her employed. In many ways it will be a master/slave relationship as you will have no real freedoms, just the ones that kept you compliant and complacent. Fortunately for most of us, we'll be "dirt napping" when that world comes around, but nevertheless that world is coming, and probably sooner than most people imagine.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 09:08 AM
a one world currency will be a boon to some countries and disastrous to others. spain's economy is being crippled by the Euro, while other EU nations prosper from it.

i'm not sure why everyone is so dismissive of his post. he has suggested that you move your paper-backed securities to gold, one of the smartest investments you can make.

JPB is obviously a fan of the Rich Dad, Poor Dad series. and robert kiyosaki is one of the smartest men out there in terms of financial literacy and promoting the welfare of common people.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 09:50 AM
When we are talking about investing in gold are we talking about actually buying gold or investing in gold stock? If you sell that stock do they pay you in actual gold or just paper? With this announcement do you expect gold prices to rise on the market?

What is better to have a pocket full of gold when the NWO takes over or a piece of property with enough acreage to grow food and a freshwater river outside your door with access to fresh water fishing?

[Edited on 7/14/2009 by PattyG]

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 10:07 AM
I was not asking my question to embarass JPB, but was curious as to why a one-world currency is necessarily a bad thing. We have not seen the Euro lead to a loss of soverignty of the participating nations, while there have been inequities among those nations (that is not the end of the world punctuated by many exclamation points).

I do not buy into the whole slippery-slope argument that a single currency will inevitably lead to a one-world gov't. I too fear the dollar's decline, but if the worst result is a single world currency, then no big deal.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 10:15 AM
I personally don't see whats wrong with a one world government or currency. Isn't that the plan of God anyway ? Why fight it ?

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 10:19 AM
I think the secret is to be heavily in debt, and have no assets.

works for me.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 10:21 AM
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I think the secret is to be heavily in debt, and have no assets.

works for me.


Nothing from nothing is nothing
Not many assets, but riduculous debt is slowly evaporating. I should have it all paid, but I spend alot of money...on nothing.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 10:23 AM
just remember, it's never too late to borrow more.
 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 10:24 AM
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just remember, it's never too late to borrow more.


Great point !
Worked for Regan, oughtta work for me !

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 10:32 AM
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A one world currency totally destroys our sovereignty and pretty much makes us dependent on the world for our monetary policy. We will no longer be able to mold our fiscal policy to what is best for the USA. If we need to contract the money supply to help our economy, and the rest of the world doesn't, well, we won't be able to do it. We are pretty much handing over our rights to the rest of the world.

You are pretty much opening up the door for a one world government. That is what they want. Just like you are seeing a push for global governance on global warming. We will no longer be able to do the things that are best for us, but must cow tow to what someone in the United Nations wants instead of what is best for the USA.


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It is no small thing to keep in mind the words of Mayer Amschel Rothschild, member of what has been the world's preeminent banking family for centuries, who in 1838 was quoted: "Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes the laws." Nothing has changed in regard to how central bankers operate. Witness the Fed's actions over the past year.

Since 1913 our gov't has permitted our currency to be issued and controlled by a private group, whose membership is secret. The amount of money in circulation, inflation and the resulting loss of value in your savings, interest rates you pay, lending rates between banks, credit flows, the amount of leverage permitted to banks on their investments are all controlled by this group. What they've done to the US economy, business cycles, and the value of your earnings is bad enough. Imagine those policies being wielded by an international group with a "world" vision.


I agree with both JPB and Rich in those posts. That pretty much sums up my view against a global currency.

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Remember the non-Biblical "golden rule".

"He with the gold rules". In my mind, the era of "nations - states" has the dominate political entity is coming to end. We really are heading into a "one world" government, and going to one that very corporate in nature. And the bankers wil be it's kings. A person's alllegence will be to his "corporate masters" that keep him/her employed. In many ways it will be a master/slave relationship as you will have no real freedoms, just the ones that kept you compliant and complacent. Fortunately for most of us, we'll be "dirt napping" when that world comes around, but nevertheless that world is coming, and probably sooner than most people imagine.


That does seem to be the direction things are heading.

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When we are talking about investing in gold are we talking about actually buying gold or investing in gold stock? If you sell that stock do they pay you in actual gold or just paper? With this announcement do you expect gold prices to rise on the market?

What is better to have a pocket full of gold when the NWO takes over or a piece of property with enough acreage to grow food and a freshwater river outside your door with access to fresh water fishing?

[Edited on 7/14/2009 by PattyG]


I think some physical possession of gold is much better than the paper alternative of gold stocks. As for owning the property to grow on, that is all well and good as long as you can afford to pay the property taxes that will come with owning said acreage. I'm reminded of the lyric..."got myself a Cadillac, but I can't afford the gasoline."

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 10:57 AM
Since 1913 our gov't has permitted our currency to be issued and controlled by a private group, whose membership is secret.

Ever since I worked at a bank in the 80s I've been trying to get a handle on who exactly 'owns' the Federal Reserve. I figure once that's brought out into the light, if ever, some other things might fall into place.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 11:04 AM
Savvy investors from all walks of life have been making the switch to gold..






 

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  posted on 7/14/2009 at 12:05 PM
you can buy real gold bullion, not paper stocks. gold101.com

 

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