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  posted on 7/8/2009 at 04:35 PM
Great article from USA Today about Ringo Starr from a drummer's perspective. btw, Happy Birthday, Ringo

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Praising Ringo Starr, one drummer to another

by Dennis Diken

Btw Dennis Dikebs is drummer and a founding member of The Smithereens, who celebrated their 29th anniversary in March. The band's latest album is The Smithereens Play Tommy. Diken's first solo effort, Late Music, will be released this fall. Diken says of Starr: To this day, producers direct drummers to "play like Ringo."

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The Beatles maintain a stronghold on the imagination and hearts of music lovers. They win over new generations without trying, and their appeal shows no signs of waning. So when Ringo Starr turns 69 on Tuesday, his status as one of rock's most renowned drummers is secure, if only by association with the greatest show on earth.

Yet inexplicably, Starr's legacy is clouded by misconception and ignorance. Some say he was the luckiest guy on earth, a competent player who stepped into a million-dollar quartet. Why the bum rap? Was it because he didn't overplay and shunned solos? Or was it his unassuming, Everyman countenance?

Think about it: Could The Beatles have conquered the world with a mediocre sticksman?

John Lennon, Paul McCartney and George Harrison found in Ringo an ironclad timekeeper who rocked and swung like mad, with style, imagination and versatility. He was the secret weapon of the best band of all time.

He hit the ground running in 1963 on I Saw Her Standing There with a steady, exciting pulse. This is "How to Groove With Your Bandmates 101," as he established a brotherhood with McCartney's fluid bass and Lennon's underrated rhythm guitar.

Within months, Ringomania shifted into high gear with She Loves You, where he introduced the electrifying sizzle of high-hat cymbals that gave the early Fabs' discs a unique imprint. Later that year, Starr helped reinvent Chuck Berry's Roll Over Beethoven, with a fierce backbeat and a joy-of-life fervor. No other records sounded like this at the time, because no other drummers played like this before.

His influence spread like wildfire when The Beatles appeared on The Ed Sullivan Show on Feb. 9, 1964. Perched on his riser, Ringo was clearly in the driver's seat, and it was apparent that his membership in this exclusive fraternity owed as much to his exuberant persona as his musical prowess.

An army of kids was mobilized that Sunday night, awaiting their call to the battle of the bands. Among the legion of teenage conscripts were drummers Bun E. Carlos of Cheap Trick, who calls Ringo "my generation's Gene Krupa," and Max Weinberg of the E Street Band, who thanks Starr for "showing us that a day or night spent drumming is just about better than anything else."

The Beatles' music evolved at a dizzying pace, and Starr adapted with gusto. He concocted fresh concepts, like his trademark framework for Ticket to Ride and the controlled chaos of Rain. The lazy lilt behind his vocal on With a Little Help From My Friends is a study in subtle, soulful dynamics and when not to play.

To this day, producers direct studio drummers to "play like Ringo." Red Hot Chili Peppers drummer Chad Smith sums it up thusly: "The greatest thing a drummer can contribute to a recorded song is the feel of it, and every Beatles song feels great."

Ringo "doesn't dazzle with flashy technique and pyrotechnics," says The Cars' lead guitarist, Elliot Easton. "What he does is so much more elusive and difficult: He plays songs on the drums. Anybody who has sat down behind a drum kit in the last 45 years owes him."

And in The End, Ringo relented and sent himself out with a 17-second solo on Abbey Road, The Beatles' final studio album. Never considered much of a vocalist, Ringo nonetheless enjoyed a fruitful solo career.

He continues to make quality records and tour with his All-Starr Band, appearing amazingly fit and spirited. And he still plays great. Like always, he makes it look easy. That's because to Ringo, it did come easy.





 
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  posted on 7/8/2009 at 04:39 PM
BRAVO!!! Great post!

 

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  posted on 7/8/2009 at 05:35 PM
When the Beatles first appeared on Ed Sullivan every kid on my block wanted to play drums. Ticket to Ride. Yeah..!

 

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  posted on 7/8/2009 at 06:34 PM
Ringo can still swing baby!.
 

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  posted on 7/8/2009 at 06:40 PM
Ringoooooooooooo is the Man!!

 

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  posted on 7/8/2009 at 09:03 PM
Not A Second Time, from Meet the Beatles -- rock on Ringo. He wailed on all those early albums before the times took their music in a different direction.

 

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  posted on 7/8/2009 at 09:09 PM
I remember watching a show not to long ago where Dave Stewart (Eurythmics) was hosting an interview with Ringo praising his drumming style. Ticket To Ride came up. Dave could never figure out the drums on it, how Ringo always came in late. Ringo said, "If you watch me, my shoulder drops. It sorta happened by accident." Classic Ringo, IMO.
 

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John Lennon, Paul McCartney and George Harrison found in Ringo an ironclad timekeeper who rocked and swung like mad, with style, imagination and versatility. He was the secret weapon of the best band of all time.

He hit the ground running in 1963 on I Saw Her Standing There with a steady, exciting pulse. This is "How to Groove With Your Bandmates 101," as he established a brotherhood with McCartney's fluid bass and Lennon's underrated rhythm guitar.

Within months, Ringomania shifted into high gear with She Loves You, where he introduced the electrifying sizzle of high-hat cymbals that gave the early Fabs' discs a unique imprint. Later that year, Starr helped reinvent Chuck Berry's Roll Over Beethoven, with a fierce backbeat and a joy-of-life fervor. No other records sounded like this at the time, because no other drummers played like this before.

His influence spread like wildfire when The Beatles appeared on The Ed Sullivan Show on Feb. 9, 1964. Perched on his riser, Ringo was clearly in the driver's seat, and it was apparent that his membership in this exclusive fraternity owed as much to his exuberant persona as his musical prowess.

An army of kids was mobilized that Sunday night, awaiting their call to the battle of the bands. Among the legion of teenage conscripts were drummers Bun E. Carlos of Cheap Trick, who calls Ringo "my generation's Gene Krupa," and Max Weinberg of the E Street Band, who thanks Starr for "showing us that a day or night spent drumming is just about better than anything else."

The Beatles' music evolved at a dizzying pace, and Starr adapted with gusto. He concocted fresh concepts, like his trademark framework for Ticket to Ride and the controlled chaos of Rain. The lazy lilt behind his vocal on With a Little Help From My Friends is a study in subtle, soulful dynamics and when not to play.

To this day, producers direct studio drummers to "play like Ringo." Red Hot Chili Peppers drummer Chad Smith sums it up thusly: "The greatest thing a drummer can contribute to a recorded song is the feel of it, and every Beatles song feels great."

Ringo "doesn't dazzle with flashy technique and pyrotechnics," says The Cars' lead guitarist, Elliot Easton. "What he does is so much more elusive and difficult: He plays songs on the drums. Anybody who has sat down behind a drum kit in the last 45 years owes him."


If you think about it, the same could be said about Charlie Watts. The best timekeeper of the best band Rock 'n Roll has ever known.


 

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  posted on 7/8/2009 at 09:17 PM
Saw an interview not too long ago where ole Ringo attributed his 'weird'--not in a bad way--style to being a....'lefthander playing a righthanded drumset...' He said he 'led' quite often with the opposite hand that normal drummers would do and consequently his fills would sound 'strange' but KEWL!

I'll see if I can find that interview either in print or film.

 

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Does anyone else remember this?

Ringo's health would continue to cause problems again later. In 1964 Ringo missed three quarters of the tour of Scandanavia, Holland, the Far East, and Australia, to have his tonsils out.

After the Pete Best incident Ringo just about soiled his pants. It's inconceivable to me that they would have toured without any of the other three (not to diminish Ringo) And not to forget, on Love Me Do (I think) Ringo was only allowed to play Tambourine and not the drums (they used a studio musician) Ringo grew into the role, but he was not on the same ground as the original three

My ohter favorite Ringo story is when he was on Shining Time Station. One of the 20 year olds apparently asked him what he did before the show. Ringo's response was "I was a member of a band. You may have heard of them, they were called the Beatles."

 

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  posted on 7/8/2009 at 11:51 PM
I always loved Ringo, he seemed like he'd have been the most fun.
 

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  posted on 7/9/2009 at 12:25 AM
i actually enjoy ringo's singing and songwriting more than his drum playing
 

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  posted on 7/9/2009 at 07:22 AM
Ringo Starr

Has there ever been a better name for a rock star?

 

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  posted on 7/9/2009 at 08:24 AM
Ringo was a great musical drummer.
Ticket to Ride, All I've Got to Do, In My Life, Anna, Come Together are a few songs that come to mind that his musicianship really show.

 

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  posted on 7/9/2009 at 08:27 AM
All I can say is Thank you Ringo. You and the other three guys yopu played with have brought me as much joy into my life as anything else I can think of. You gave me music .
 

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All I can say is Thank you Ringo. You and the other three guys you played with have brought me as much joy into my life as anything else I can think of. You gave me music .
 

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  posted on 7/9/2009 at 08:32 AM
Have seen him twice wth his all-stars. He puts on a really fun show, and seems to enjoy himself. (Plus he has stayed married one of the most beautiful women in the world)
 

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Ringo was a great musical drummer.
Ticket to Ride, All I've Got to Do, In My Life, Anna, Come Together are a few songs that come to mind that his musicianship really show.


Lets not forget the contributions of the brilliant engineer Goeff Emerick who came up with the concept of separating the drums from the rest of the group while recording, miking the drums extremely close and filling the bass with blankets/towels for a fuller sound.

 

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Besides being the beat of the early Beatles "Mersey Beat" sound, when the band turned psychedelic Ringo had the right feel for that too. His drums on "Rain" were pure psychedelia.
 

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Ringo's health would continue to cause problems again later. In 1964 Ringo missed three quarters of the tour of Scandanavia, Holland, the Far East, and Australia, to have his tonsils out.



That would make a very good book -- what it was like to be a Beatle -- I mean Jimmy Nicol (who replaced Ringo) must have thought it was all a dream -- he was a Beatle, at the height of Beatlemania

LP58 I think it was Paul who played drums on Rain

 

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LP58 I think it was Paul who played drums on Rain


According to this it was Ringo.
http://worshiptheglitch.com/2005/11/behind-beatles-rain.html

 

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Wow!! Good call -- boy first I thought BYARMan was about Allen Klein, now this -- had always thought Paul played drums on Rain -- maybe mixing it up w/Ballad of John & Yoko -- always thought that was Paul too, maybe not though -- thanks for the point-out

 

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Great post. I'm not a musician, but when the argument of Ringo's drum ability has come up, one quote from this write-up has always summed up my opinion of Ringo: "Think about it: Could The Beatles have conquered the world with a mediocre sticksman?"

 

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Ringo's health would continue to cause problems again later. In 1964 Ringo missed three quarters of the tour of Scandanavia, Holland, the Far East, and Australia, to have his tonsils out.



That would make a very good book -- what it was like to be a Beatle -- I mean Jimmy Nicol (who replaced Ringo) must have thought it was all a dream -- he was a Beatle, at the height of Beatlemania

As you can see from the following you never know. I was at the first show James Mingo Lewis played with Santana. My best friend at the time used to Jam with Mingo all the time; and maybe missed by one day playing with Santana (the story is Mingo saw a percussionless show and approached Carlos cold) Somehow, his name probably sounded better than Santana with Arniue Zimmerman would have.


Sometime in 1972 growing resentments between Carlos Santana and Michael Carabello over (hmmm) lifestyle issues resulted in Carlos’ departure from his own band. Carlos had recently met his wife to be, and was becoming more serious about the type of music he wanted to play. He felt held back by the band’s chaotic democracy and undisiplined approach. On top of that, Coke Escovedo had convinced him that he should take control of the band’s helm, whereas guys like bassist David Brown, and percussionist Carabello thought that the band’s sucess was due to its collaborative nature.

To put it simply, Carlos had met his wife-to-be, and was (in some band member’s minds) “going straight”. Santana actually toured for half a month without him, until of course Carabello and his giant afro were finally kicked out. James Mingo Lewis was hired at the last minute, plucked from the audience as a replacement during a concert in New York City.


 

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Ringo's health would continue to cause problems again later. In 1964 Ringo missed three quarters of the tour of Scandanavia, Holland, the Far East, and Australia, to have his tonsils out.

After the Pete Best incident Ringo just about soiled his pants. It's inconceivable to me that they would have toured without any of the other three (not to diminish Ringo) And not to forget, on Love Me Do (I think) Ringo was only allowed to play Tambourine and not the drums (they used a studio musician) Ringo grew into the role, but he was not on the same ground as the original three

My ohter favorite Ringo story is when he was on Shining Time Station. One of the 20 year olds apparently asked him what he did before the show. Ringo's response was "I was a member of a band. You may have heard of them, they were called the Beatles."


Yeah, but the thing with that tour where Jimmy Nichol came in was a whole weird different thing. It was the first year they were conquering the world and the financial repercussions of cancelling that tour would have been horrible for not just the band but the sponsors. And it wasn't like they could just reschedule because there were contracted to have another album completed & a single before the end of the year.

The other Beatles (especially George) were very against the idea of having a standin for Ringo, but I don't think they had much of a choice.

And actually the Beatles played one or 2 shows in either March or April of 1963 without John and then one when he was back without him singing. And I think they did one without George, or wait maybe that wasn't actually a show. It's in Mark Lewisohn's book. I actually do think that for a tour of Australia at that point in time, they probably would've done it without one of them. It was certainly a huge circus at that point.

And the thing with "Love Me Do" was also different because he hadn't even been in the band a full month when George Martin had brought a studio musician in, it certainly wasn't the bands' idea. And the band wasn't going to fight it because they were recording their first ever record... After that one date (which was 9/11/62) George Martin would never think of replacing Ringo again. Allegedly (and all of their memory's are definitely not very clear on the whole situation) George Martin didn't even realize that Ringo was actually going to be Pete Best's permanent replacement.

 
 


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