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  posted on 6/2/2009 at 08:55 AM
Bob Dylan's new one, "Together Through Life", has been getting good reviews, but I am not going to pick it up because I just don't think I can stand repeated listenings when the singer's voice is so completely shot as Dylan's is. The last record I bought by Dylan was 1997's "Time Out of Mind". Good record, but the voice was already starting to go.
I saw Dylan in 2003 on one of his University tours.........VERY enjoyable show, great songs, great musicians, unpredictable setlist. I admit it was good enough to look past his voice, but the point remains: His voice was REALLY, really bad. I just can't see buying a record and having to try to filter that part of the music out over repeated listenings.

Which begs the question: There are a LOT of great singers out there. Why doesn't Bob hire someone? Ego getting in the way? Can't trust someone else to interpret the material the way he wants it interpreted? Whatever his misgivings, it's hard for me to believe that a great singer would not be an improvement over the product we're being presented with. Derek Trucks and Carlos Santana are two examples who immediately come to mind of great musicians who recognize that their singing voice isn't all that great and they can do better with someone else on vocals.

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  posted on 6/2/2009 at 09:02 AM
Because he is Bob Dylan.

 

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  posted on 6/2/2009 at 09:04 AM
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Why Doesn't Dylan Hire a Singer?


LOL

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  posted on 6/2/2009 at 09:10 AM
This is an interesting question but I must weigh in that it is not right to compare to Trucks and Santana...totally different comparison.

I admire Bob for what he is and to those that have the opinion of robslob or even worse that poor ole Bob 'could never sing' ...I say, well I guess you just don't get it about Bob.

That's like saying Willie Nelson can't really play guitar or is always sort of out of tune...

Although for some reason, when I read the initial post I thought of the recent Jeff Beck show, Live at Ronnie Scott's...and that one chick he had singing...WOW, I would definitely pay for a whole DVD of her singing with Jeff or travel to see that in concert.

Forget her name but she was a definite POSITIVE addition to his band!

But again, not a favorable comparision to ole Bob...apples vs oranges....

 

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  posted on 6/2/2009 at 09:13 AM
Then it would be a revue of Bob Dylan songs with him relegated to keyboards and guitar.

It's Bob for Christ's sake!

 

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  posted on 6/2/2009 at 09:23 AM
The newer songs fit his rough voice.

The lyrics should be sung by a guy who's been there, done that and heading into his twilight years.

It makes perfect sense to me. Just my opinion .

American Idol might be a better fit for people who don't like Bob's voice.

 

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  posted on 6/2/2009 at 09:24 AM
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Then it would be a revue of Bob Dylan songs with him relegated to keyboards and guitar.

It's Bob for Christ's sake!




Right you are. There is and will be plenty of opportunity to see others sing Dylan tunes. But right now we still have the genuine article. If he merely read the song lyrics in some coffee shop, I'd be there.

I have been surprised that his voice does not sound horrible on the new album. Maybe I'm just used to it. I'm looking forward to seeing him w/ Willie (and Mellencamp I guess) in July.

 

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  posted on 6/2/2009 at 09:43 AM
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The newer songs fit his rough voice.

The lyrics should be sung by a guy who's been there, done that and heading into his twilight years.

It makes perfect sense to me. Just my opinion .

American Idol might be a better fit for people who don't like Bob's voice.


AMEN!!! My girlfriend HATED Dylan's voice to the point of refusing to listen to any song by him. But a few weeks ago, I played her the new album, and then Time Out of Mind and she agreed that his voice suits the music perfectly now and she LIKES it.

 

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  posted on 6/2/2009 at 09:46 AM
I'm a huge Dylan fan and I have to admit his voice is just becoming painful to listen to. I listen to the live shows from the late 90's, early 2000's and his voice is so much better.

The last two discs, his voice has gotten worse.

But it is what it is, his band and performances are still great.

I love the ballpark tours, they are perfect outdoor venues. I'll catch the show in CT.

 

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  posted on 6/2/2009 at 10:01 AM
I like Bob's singing, but he's no "Tom Waits"
 

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  posted on 6/2/2009 at 10:02 AM
I love Bob - always have, always will - and even enjoy his voice ... to me it just goes with Bob. Would absolutely not want to see him bring in a 'lead singer' to his band ... like somebody else mentioned here, that's already being done by many of the other bands whose shows I enjoy (I mean think about it - how many bands out there are doing covers of Dylan tunes...)

 

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  posted on 6/2/2009 at 10:04 AM
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I like Bob's singing, but he's no "Tom Waits"


heh heh

 

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  posted on 6/2/2009 at 10:06 AM
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heh heh


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  posted on 6/2/2009 at 10:09 AM
No way!
That's like asking Neil Young to hire a guitar player...................or a singer....

 

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  posted on 6/2/2009 at 11:14 AM
Well, his voice is not the same as it used to be and it never was a really good voice in comparison to so many great voices out there, but no one is Bob Dylan and I prefer to hear him sing his great songs instead of someone else. I'm glad I finally got to really get his material before I couldn't do that anymore. I saw him in NYC late last year. His singing was fine. His band was great and they all had an enormous amount of energy and they put it out there for the audience. If I want perfection I can listen to the cds. I would go see him and his band again. I wouldn't go if someone filled in as a singer for him. It wouldn't be the same.
 

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  posted on 6/2/2009 at 11:19 AM
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I'm looking forward to seeing him w/ Willie (and Mellencamp I guess) in July.


You got that right Brock...am I going to see you at Orange Beach?

 

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  posted on 6/2/2009 at 11:29 AM
I disagree with those who maintain that Dylan can't sing. His voice has just gotten different over the years. He's the victim of several illnesses as well as the aging process.

There were folks saying that he wasn't a good singer in the beginning. Watch the "Don't Look Back" (1960) documentary - Dylan illustrates that he was, indeed hitting proper (and sometimes difficult) notes in his songs. He's still hitting the right note. Maybe it's the tone and quality of his voice that you have issues with.

Along with the Allman Brother's Band, I have seen Dylan more than any other artist (lost track after about 25 or so shows). I guess I'll keep showing up as long as he does.

 

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  posted on 6/2/2009 at 11:37 AM
I agree with Rusty.... and some others .. who feel It's Bob Dylan.. for crying out loud...

His distinguished whining sound , piercing notes he hits , are all his... One of the most recognizable voices of all time.... He has a message from his heart ... and that is his expression and sound.

I did love his singing in the early days.... a bit better.

 

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  posted on 6/2/2009 at 11:40 AM
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  posted on 6/2/2009 at 11:44 AM
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Because he is Bob Dylan.


I think that sums it up. .....Dylan is Dylan...& Dylan is da man !

 

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  posted on 6/2/2009 at 11:49 AM
Bob gets better with age.

 

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  posted on 6/2/2009 at 11:54 AM
He's becoming Charlie Patton like IMO.
 

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  posted on 6/2/2009 at 12:47 PM
I guess it depends on wether you think Dylan cares what anyone thinks of his voice...
 

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  posted on 6/2/2009 at 01:26 PM
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I disagree with those who maintain that Dylan can't sing. His voice has just gotten different over the years. He's the victim of several illnesses as well as the aging process.

There were folks saying that he wasn't a good singer in the beginning. Watch the "Don't Look Back" (1960) documentary - Dylan illustrates that he was, indeed hitting proper (and sometimes difficult) notes in his songs. He's still hitting the right note. Maybe it's the tone and quality of his voice that you have issues with.





I agree.

I once read where BD said something to the effect ďIíve got as good a voice as Pavarotti. I hit the same notes. Maybe some people prefer the sound of Pavarottiís voice to mine, but thatís subjective.Ē

And Iíll add also that the thing that I believe is so great abut BDís voice, and Thelonious Monkís piano playing, and ECís guitar, is phrasing. That often overlooked component, having to do with timing and presentation, that does so much to communicate the emotion/feeling/message of the music.

There, I said it.

Phrasing.

And I agree with Rainy. Yeah, I liked the sound of BDís voice better when he was younger, but it still works for me.

And I donít think many people would bother seeing him play piano for 2 hours while some hired hand sang his songs.

And speaking of hiring people, if his recent Rolling Stone interview is true (and I admit we can never tell with BD whether he is kidding), he plays piano now because he has got a certain style in his head but he cannot find a hired hand to play it. Now if we believe that, surely its unlikely BD could find someone to sing the songs the way BD wants them sung.

But if BD agrees with Robslob and wants to give it a try, I am available!



 

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  posted on 6/2/2009 at 02:37 PM
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I'm looking forward to seeing him w/ Willie (and Mellencamp I guess) in July.


You got that right Brock...am I going to see you at Orange Beach?


Not unless I make a seriously wrong turn on the way to Alpharetta!

We Zimmie heads are indeed fortunate Bob continues to tour and does not rest on his many laurels.

 
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