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Author: Subject: The End of the Beacon Run: ALLMAN BROTHERS EVICTED FROM NYC'S BEACON THEATER

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  posted on 5/29/2009 at 11:47 AM
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  posted on 5/29/2009 at 11:57 AM
that sucks... Butch says they'll find another venue but they shouldn't have to ~ you'd think that the Beacon could show their appreciation & the respect of seniority for the ABB & the fans for the 188 sold out shows over the years by giving them for priority for dates & shows. they even did that special about the restoration of the beacon on msg a few months ago & a majority of it was about the ABB what they have brought & continue to bring to the table there each run.

 

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  posted on 5/29/2009 at 12:00 PM
dolan is a turd in the Allman's punch bowl.

 

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  posted on 5/29/2009 at 12:00 PM
Please divide your replies according to the following categories:
1. Bitching why this sucks and makes no sense.
2. Agreeing that it was a great run, but had to end sometime.
3. Bitching about where they should/should not move to.
4. Lamenting this is the end of the band for sure.

 

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  posted on 5/29/2009 at 12:01 PM


I doubt the restoration of the Beacon was done for the Allman brothers band.

 

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  posted on 5/29/2009 at 12:03 PM
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Please divide your replies according to the following categories:
1. Bitching why this sucks and makes no sense.
2. Agreeing that it was a great run, but had to end sometime.
3. Bitching about where they should/should not move to.
4. Lamenting this is the end of the band for sure.


Well thanks for sucking all of the air out of the room Alan! Geez!

 

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  posted on 5/29/2009 at 12:07 PM
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I doubt the restoration of the Beacon was done for the Allman brothers band.


i wasn't saying it was done for the ABB nor do i think that but they were definitly a key player in the documentary about it which shows their importance & presence over the years for what they brought to the venue.

 

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  posted on 5/29/2009 at 12:12 PM
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that sucks... Butch says they'll find another venue but they shouldn't have to ~ you'd think that the Beacon could show their appreciation & the respect of seniority for the ABB & the fans for the 188 sold out shows over the years by giving them for priority for dates & shows. they even did that special about the restoration of the beacon on msg a few months ago & a majority of it was about the ABB what they have brought & continue to bring to the table there each run.



Why should the Beacon give the ABB "priority for dates & shows"? The Beacon IS A BUSINESS, and Cirque de Soliel "Vaudeville" will make them much more money and have a longer run than an ABB run. To give the ABB "priority" would probably cause the Beacon to lose the Cirque de Soliel show, and that would cost the Beacon a considerable amount of money. Seems to me, the Beacon made a sound business decision. Also, why didn't the ABB "lock in" the 2010 dates at the Beacon before Cirque de Soliel did? Basically the dates were "open" and Cirque de Soliel took them.

 

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that sucks... Butch says they'll find another venue but they shouldn't have to ~ you'd think that the Beacon could show their appreciation & the respect of seniority for the ABB & the fans for the 188 sold out shows over the years by giving them for priority for dates & shows. they even did that special about the restoration of the beacon on msg a few months ago & a majority of it was about the ABB what they have brought & continue to bring to the table there each run.



Why should the Beacon give the ABB "priority for dates & shows"? The Beacon IS A BUSINESS, and Cirque de Soliel "Vaudeville" will make them much more money and have a longer run than an ABB run. To give the ABB "priority" would probably cause the Beacon to lose the Cirque de Soliel show, and that would cost the Beacon a considerable amount of money. Seems to me, the Beacon made a sound business decision. Also, why didn't the ABB "lock in" the 2010 dates at the Beacon before Cirque de Soliel did? Basically the dates were "open" and Cirque de Soliel took them.


i guess i'll zip my lips on this subject, but for the record, i've got an issue with both spoken & unspoken respect, showing appreciation & gratitude & also for tradition but yeah, i do understand business decisions.... money always seems to trump everything else

 

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  posted on 5/29/2009 at 12:18 PM
Well, for me, just hearing Butch say that they WILL find another venue is good enough for me...that the ABB is going to carry on is GREAT news to me.

I've just had this downer feeling that this current tour is their "swan song"...I'm feeling a whole lot better now, after watching that clip and hearing Butch being so positive about the future. Sure, it won't be the same as the Beacon, but who's to say the new venue won't be as good, if not better?

 
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  posted on 5/29/2009 at 12:22 PM
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I'm feeling a whole lot better now, after watching that clip and hearing Butch being so positive about the future. Sure, it won't be the same as the Beacon, but who's to say the new venue won't be as good, if not better?


 

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  posted on 5/29/2009 at 12:24 PM
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Sure, it won't be the same as the Beacon, but who's to say the new venue won't be as good, if not better?


I understnad the tradition and legacy but lets be honest.... The Beacon is FAR from the best venue in NYC as far as sound goes.

 

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  posted on 5/29/2009 at 01:31 PM
I think it bites, but at least Butch said they will be looking for a place in New York.

 

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  posted on 5/29/2009 at 01:34 PM
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I doubt the restoration of the Beacon was done for the Allman brothers band.


No, but I believe that they certainly helped to foot the bill.

 

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  posted on 5/29/2009 at 01:42 PM
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Well, for me, just hearing Butch say that they WILL find another venue is good enough for me...that the ABB is going to carry on is GREAT news to me.

I've just had this downer feeling that this current tour is their "swan song"...I'm feeling a whole lot better now, after watching that clip and hearing Butch being so positive about the future. Sure, it won't be the same as the Beacon, but who's to say the new venue won't be as good, if not better?


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  posted on 5/29/2009 at 01:53 PM
I feel sorry for anyone who never expereinced the Beacon Shows with the ABB....

But they are an innovated group of musicians and will find another home to play in New York City... I am sure any theater will welcome them with open arms....

 

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  posted on 5/29/2009 at 02:07 PM
Well that does suck...hopefully that will make a DVD release from the final Beacon run as something to document the legacy.
 

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  posted on 5/29/2009 at 02:10 PM
I've been lucky to have been to four of the last five Beacon runs ... and loved every one ... NYC is great ... but I would be quite happy for it to be moved to the Fabulous Fox Theatre in Atlanta ... that way I could also fit in a trip to Macon which is something I've always dreamed of doing ...

 

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  posted on 5/29/2009 at 04:07 PM
With Broadway theaters having such a tough time these days finding a profitable show to keep it filled there are many dark theaters now that would welcome a three week sold out gig with open arms. I'd go see them wherever they decided to play, but you can't discount how special The Beacon was.
 

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  posted on 5/29/2009 at 04:29 PM

 

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With Broadway theaters having such a tough time these days finding a profitable show to keep it filled there are many dark theaters now that would welcome a three week sold out gig with open arms. I'd go see them wherever they decided to play, but you can't discount how special The Beacon was.



Yes, but a theater such as the Beacon would welcome even more a show that will probably sell out twice a day for a good two or three month run. Do the math, if you own the Beacon would your rather have 15 sold out shows the Allman Brothers Band could give you, or you rather have the 96 to 144 sold out shows that the Cirque de Soliel "Vaudeville" is likely to give? Next year Cirque de Soliel "Vaudeville" is probably going to be one of more popular shows playing in NYC and the Beacon know it.

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  posted on 5/29/2009 at 05:09 PM
they need to send Kramer in there to pass a stone

 

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That's for sure!!! Cosmo..........

 

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  posted on 5/29/2009 at 05:54 PM
A Fox Atlanta run sounds good, plus three three nights in the newly renovated Township in Columbia.
If New York doesn't want them, go Southbound.

 

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  posted on 5/29/2009 at 06:12 PM
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Please divide your replies according to the following categories:
1. Bitching why this sucks and makes no sense.
2. Agreeing that it was a great run, but had to end sometime.
3. Bitching about where they should/should not move to.
4. Lamenting this is the end of the band for sure.
5. Figuring out where Clapton will have his after party.......

 

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