Don't click or your IP will be banned


Hittin' The Web with the Allman Brothers Band Forum
You are not logged in

< Last Thread   Next Thread ><<  1    2    3    4  >>Ascending sortDescending sorting  
Author: Subject: I have completely had it with Joe Bonamassa ("Diva Of The Blues")

Universal Peach





Posts: 6570
(6580 all sites)
Registered: 5/18/2003
Status: Offline

  posted on 5/5/2009 at 04:13 AM
Okay sorry. I have already posted this in the "upcoming UK gigs thread" but decided to make a separate topic as well. Don't want to change the topic in that other thread too much so i want to discuss this here. Personal opinion of course but i completly had it with Joe Bonamassa even if he's a brilliantly gifted musician.

Last weekend Joe debuted his anticipated "Royal Albert Hall" London performance at the 24th Moulin Blues Festival in Ospel, Netherlands which i attended for the 19th time.

Here's my original post:

Last weekend i was slightly "turned of" by a Joe Divamassa performance that was technically impressive but was on auto-pilot and was way too loud and egocentric. His slighty arrogant appearance went up a notch since the last time i saw him. I think his biggest concern on stage is keeping his sunglasses on and his hair in order. The 3 piece horn section was brought on stage for only a few songs and were hardly put to use. Only one short sax solo during the encore. I hardly ever disagree on anything with Harvey but i thought the second drummer was completely pointless. A rockdrummer and a jazzdrummer and /or latin percussionist make sense but 2 identical drummers bashing away made the performance lose the last drops of subtility. The current shows were kinda announced as being more blues and less rock. Being more subtle. Well none of that.

At the festival i already started hearing rumours about his backstage diva antics and that he was driving the organizers of the festival crazy. After reading the blog of the festival MC and the newspaper report with quotes from one of the organizers i came to the conclusion that at the moment "i have completely have had it with Joe Bonamassa". Maybe this will change the next time i see him at the BRBF Peer Festival. But i hardly doubt it. On the same stage there will be Jeff Beck, John Mayall, Derek Trucks and Steve Winwood who can hopefully show him a lesson in being humble and bring Joe back to earth.

Joe showed up with a 22 person crew and the managment commanded 22 hotel rooms. Much more than the usual artists and plenty of big names from the world of the blueas played at the festival. For the first time in the 24 year history of the festival the headliner of day 1 ordered a sound check with a massive backline including 2 drumsets and after the soundcheck demanded that everything would be left untouched so that all other bands that day were "robbed" of 2/5 of the room on stage. That even didn't happen when BB King played many moons ago with his entire orchestra. Joe didn't wanted anybody to announce him either. During the soundcheck he saw somebody taking a picture (turned out to be the MC) and demanded it to stop. He demanded that nobody would be allowed on stage while he or anybody from his camp would be present. Not even the organizers were allowed on their own stage!! At that moment one of the organizers completely had it with Joe and told him it was their stage and the new rule would not be applied. Maybe hence the rather lacklustre performance lacking passion and subtillity. Kept the last detail for here: UPON ARRIVAL JOE BONAMASSA DEMANDED THAT HE AND HIS 22 PEOPLE CREW WERE NOT ALLOWED TO BE TOUCHED. NO HANDSHAKES, PADS ON THE SHOULDER. NO TOUCHING OR HUMAN CONTACT AT ALL. Left the good folks of the festival dumbstruck. No explanation was given but organisers suspected it to be "Swine Flue Paranoia".

Fortunally the rest of the festival saw excellent performances and humble musicians that were often busy setting up or removing their own equipment. James Hunter, Chris Bergson Band and Watermelon Slim Band were impressive. On the second day the concert
of Jason Ricci and New Blood turned out to be the festival highlight for most people and the press. A show that will be remembered "i was there that day that Jason came, saw and conquered". Simply brilliant. And the guitarplayer actually blew Joe from the stage.
A few years ago we came to know Joe Bonamassa that way too but he turned into an arrogant twat that doesn't fit the world of the blues.

Rant over.




[Edited on 5/5/2009 by ABBDutchFan]

 

____________________

 
Replies:

Peach Master



Karma:
Posts: 929
(932 all sites)
Registered: 3/9/2003
Status: Offline

  posted on 5/5/2009 at 05:11 AM
Other than that he was humble and talented individual though

 

____________________
Hola from Sunny Almeria Spain




 

Extreme Peach



Karma:
Posts: 1853
(1853 all sites)
Registered: 10/20/2006
Status: Offline

  posted on 5/5/2009 at 07:06 AM
Don't worry, he acts the same over here.

I have a friend who is a great guitar player and has played with JB several times. All he says is how much of a jerk Bonnamasso is. He can play but he acts like a a-hole.

 

____________________
Green is Good

 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 67009
(67526 all sites)
Registered: 10/27/2002
Status: Offline

  posted on 5/5/2009 at 07:20 AM
We saw James Hunter open for Buddy Guy two years ago.

Very good set.

 

____________________
Hittin' The Web::Hugh Duty Memorial Giveaway has begun!

RIP Hugh Duty

 

Peach Pro



Karma:
Posts: 285
(285 all sites)
Registered: 9/20/2003
Status: Offline

  posted on 5/5/2009 at 07:30 AM
I have similar feelings towards Mr Bonamassa. I saw him last week in Sheffield, England. It was the fourth time i had seen him live, and i just found it a complete turn off. Every time i have seen him he plays to bigger and bigger audiences (first time in a small blues club, in Sheffield in a City Hall), but his arrogance and showmanship also gets bigger everytime. He prowls the stage, arms outstretched after another solo, just waiting for the applause. And as you say his hair and sunglasses is getting embarrassing. He'll play a fast acoustic tune and stop abruptly just to hear more applause. Another thing that turns me off is his vocal style. I don't know whether he is trying to protect his voice but his pronunciation of words is tedious...dahayy (day) or crihime (crime) etc. To be honest he bores me musically too now, there's very little variation in his setlists or indeed his tunes, and he comes across as a little cold and soulless.

My rant over, thanks for the invite ABBDutchFan!

 

A Peach Supreme



Karma:
Posts: 2220
(2219 all sites)
Registered: 3/24/2005
Status: Offline

  posted on 5/5/2009 at 07:33 AM
The best JB performance I have seen was the first one, in a tiny club. The technique was dazzling and the cocky demeanour seemed "tongue in cheek".

As he has moved up from clubs to theatres, it has become apparent that the arrogance is probably not tongue in cheek. If I didn't realise it before, the sight of him at the end of the regular set at the Albert Hall confirmed it. He climbed on to the highest part (probably set up for this purpose) of the amps and road cases and held his Flying V inverted above his head in a Cagneyesque "Look Ma - Top of the World" pose!

Musically, I agree - the two drummers did NOT complement but duplicated each other for the most part (although Bogey Bowles did some subtler work).

Horns - JB drowned them out and the arrangements didn't seem anything special anyway.

Too loud - certainly, at times. Too heavy on riffs, for my taste.

Overall impression - this was a vanity exercise for JB and we, the audience (and even Eric Clapton), were a backdrop for "The Greatest Night of His Llfe". Having said that, he can play, he has a good band, he put a phenomenal amount into almost two and a half hours of playing. It was an enjoyable show, and next time he will fill the RAH for more than one night. Will I be there? Probably ..............








[Edited on 5/5/2009 by Shavian]

 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 15819
(15829 all sites)
Registered: 1/7/2004
Status: Offline

  posted on 5/5/2009 at 07:55 AM
Gordon (Shavian) has pretty much summed up my thoughts on the matter ... I think it is more showmanship than arrogance ... and I can see how some might not like that ... but I still enjoyed the show and would go again ...





.

[Edited on 5/7/2009 by harvey]

 

____________________

 

True Peach



Karma:
Posts: 14277
(14329 all sites)
Registered: 12/20/2001
Status: Offline

  posted on 5/5/2009 at 08:16 AM
I've received a CD or two as gifts (hey, here's something by the hot new blues guy), but as claretkid said, "he bores me musically."

 

____________________

 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 67475
(67836 all sites)
Registered: 11/28/2001
Status: Offline

  posted on 5/5/2009 at 08:23 AM
Actually I have a couple of his cd's, which I really like. When I saw him at the HOB in Chicago though, I wasn't as impressed. He was technically proficient, but the songs didn't do anything for me. He had a young harmonica player come out and play a couple songs, and that was kinda the highlight for me....

I keep his cd's on my mp3 player, and I always say 'hey I like that song' when one of his comes up...

 

____________________

 

A Peach Supreme



Karma:
Posts: 2262
(2262 all sites)
Registered: 4/14/2004
Status: Offline

  posted on 5/5/2009 at 08:27 AM
Unlike Joe Satriani who can play live without the BS, JB on record is great, seen him twice live and no interest in going again. Too bad IMO.

 

____________________
Up in the Great White North Eatin' A Peach For Peace!!
http://www.myspace.com/fatbottomdaddy

 

True Peach



Karma:
Posts: 10187
(10387 all sites)
Registered: 8/9/2003
Status: Offline

  posted on 5/5/2009 at 11:46 AM
I have heard that before about Joe's show. Being pumped up only to be let down.

 

____________________

 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 13910
(15927 all sites)
Registered: 3/14/2004
Status: Offline

  posted on 5/5/2009 at 12:20 PM
i have always admired the simplicity of a great blues song...no disrespect to the many great players that play with speed and flash..but watching BB King hold a note with that vibrato like his life depends on it is a thin slice of heaven for me..

 

____________________

 

A Peach Supreme



Karma:
Posts: 2220
(2219 all sites)
Registered: 3/24/2005
Status: Offline

  posted on 5/5/2009 at 12:33 PM
I would just add that I don't go to a JB show expecting a low-key recital of authentic blues.

The guy puts on a good show which, for me, stays well on the right side of the line between musicality and theatricality. I know he is going to posture and pose but the show is played at a cracking pace.

If he is a "Rock Star", he has made himself one out of pretty unlikely material. It's why he is playing the Albert Hall and someone else who has dragged themselves around obscure venues in Britain - Buddy Whittingham - is playing at my local hall next week. Similar talent -different marketing strategy!





[Edited on 5/5/2009 by Shavian]

 

Maximum Peach



Karma:
Posts: 9012
(9011 all sites)
Registered: 8/16/2005
Status: Offline

  posted on 5/5/2009 at 12:38 PM
His playing is nothing special to me, and there is no excuse for the star trippin!.
 

Zen Peach



Karma:
Posts: 23542
(24044 all sites)
Registered: 1/2/2004
Status: Offline

  posted on 5/5/2009 at 01:03 PM
I haven't followed JB's career at all, but I have to admit, the work he did in Bloodline with Erin Davis, Berry Oakley, Jr., Lou Segreti and Waylon Krieger was pretty killer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgq4ZlUY7tk

Now, I do NOT go for acts who star trip. Sounds to me like Joe needs a good old fashioned b!tch slap.

Now, re: Jason Ricci and New Blood...I had the pleasure of playing a gig with JR and NB as opener with a friend of mine in Maryville, TN at Smokey Mountain Harley-Davidson several years back. Jason is a COOL dude and one of the finest harp players in the world. All the guys in his band were VERY personable, too. Jason does a lot of harp lessons by video. I think you can find them on Youtube. How cool is THAT??

 

____________________

 

Peach Master



Karma:
Posts: 506
(506 all sites)
Registered: 12/1/2004
Status: Offline

  posted on 5/5/2009 at 01:24 PM
I have listened to Joe Bonamassa to see what the fuss is all about and I don't really understand it. I really don't hear anything there besides a bunch of meaningless playing and singing. The guy sounds like an instructional video guitarist...thats not a compliment either. I'm not quite sure why the guy has an ego. I hope its because of his success and not his actual music and playing. I guess he is just not my cup of tea.

 

____________________
My ambitions are handicapped by laziness.

 

A Peach Supreme



Karma:
Posts: 2014
(2028 all sites)
Registered: 1/24/2003
Status: Offline

  posted on 5/5/2009 at 01:34 PM
I've seen Joe a couple of times, Always enjoyed it.He's not really a blues guitar player, more a blues /rock style.Prefer him to Garry Moore whose a one trick pony in my opinion. Not my fav guitar player by a long, long way Rather see Devon Allman who has a bit more soul,but I'd probably go see Joe again..not at the Albert Hall though.

 

____________________
the older I get the better I was


 

Extreme Peach



Karma:
Posts: 1103
(1105 all sites)
Registered: 4/2/2006
Status: Offline

  posted on 5/5/2009 at 02:51 PM
It's been discussed here before--by many 'in the know'--that the reason that BLOODLINE tanked was because of "Joey'' and his "Daddy". Certainly a good player...not great....but an apparent history of ego problems that originate with a 'stage-Dad'. Too bad....that band woulda had a great future...."Joey'' will never match the potential that BLOODLINE had as a group...

 

____________________
Brodana

 

A Peach Supreme



Karma:
Posts: 2711
(2781 all sites)
Registered: 5/22/2002
Status: Offline

  posted on 5/5/2009 at 04:54 PM
Bonomassa is a terrible guitarist. He has no feel, no soul. I wouldn't go see him live if someone paid me.

He is everything that is wrong with guitar players.

 

____________________
"Where are the strong... Who are the trusted?"

 
E-Mail User

Extreme Peach



Karma:
Posts: 1853
(1853 all sites)
Registered: 10/20/2006
Status: Offline

  posted on 5/5/2009 at 04:59 PM
quote:


Sounds to me like Joe needs a good old fashioned b!tch slap.




I agree with you Dave. This guy needs to realize that just being great at something is not good enough. After all, itís what you do that makes you what you are (Croce).

Isnít it great to have people like Warren and Derek to set the new standards of behaviour.

 

____________________
Green is Good

 

Peach Extraordinaire



Karma:
Posts: 4289
(4353 all sites)
Registered: 12/5/2001
Status: Offline

  posted on 5/5/2009 at 07:18 PM
Whoa ... I'd like to add my two cents to this discussion. No I haven't seen Joe live, but friends have. They seemed to have enjoyed the show. They did say it was LOUD! I've heard one or two of his CD's ... a couple of tunes were all right. Speaking of the instructional video quote ... Joe did a column for Guitar World. One month he was talking about pentatonics all over the place. Man did he make it look easy. One segment he said he could go into his Eric Johnson mode (another prima dona or so I've heard but maybe deservedly so) and damn if he didn't sound exactly like Eric Johnson. Folks ... if I could play that could, I'd probably be a **** too. Lol! Funny a mention of Gary Moore, one of my all time fave players, I was reading one of the British Guitar Mags and old Gary came off a little jealous of Joe. That Bloodline CD was a great record. Shame that band tanked. I loved the song "Callin' Me Back." I believe Mr. Haynes played on that one.

But I guess the main thing I wanted to say is ... HEY ALL Y'ALL LIMEYS WHAT ARE Y'ALL GOING TO SEE JOE B WHEN YOU'VE GOT GUTHRIE GOVAN IN YOUR BACK YARD. Jiminey crickets! That cat can smoke justa about anybody in the high octane world of shred blues fusion. Y'all send him over to the States and keep Joe B. Lol!

 

____________________
"Seems to me that I once heard that everything is finally cured by time."

 
E-Mail User

Sublime Peach



Karma:
Posts: 7757
(7770 all sites)
Registered: 8/30/2003
Status: Offline

  posted on 5/5/2009 at 08:44 PM
I have most of his stuff and I picked up his latest about a month ago. His music is pretty predictable anymore. I think if you heard one cd you have heard them all. As far as him as a person , I can't comment on that, but from what I have been reading it does not sound to good. He is good but not that great. I don't think he really has one stand out or signature song. They all sound the same.

 

____________________


 

True Peach



Karma:
Posts: 14557
(14557 all sites)
Registered: 3/28/2006
Status: Offline

  posted on 5/5/2009 at 08:55 PM
quote:
I haven't followed JB's career at all, but I have to admit, the work he did in Bloodline with Erin Davis, Berry Oakley, Jr., Lou Segreti and Waylon Krieger was pretty killer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgq4ZlUY7tk

Now, I do NOT go for acts who star trip. Sounds to me like Joe needs a good old fashioned b!tch slap.

Now, re: Jason Ricci and New Blood...I had the pleasure of playing a gig with JR and NB as opener with a friend of mine in Maryville, TN at Smokey Mountain Harley-Davidson several years back. Jason is a COOL dude and one of the finest harp players in the world. All the guys in his band were VERY personable, too. Jason does a lot of harp lessons by video. I think you can find them on Youtube. How cool is THAT??



Dave, that 'Bloodline' song kicks some major arse!!! I have that CD and think it is pretty damn good. I bet Bonamassa's ego is what got in the way of that band making it big because they were pretty damn tight IMO.

 

____________________
Pete

 

Peach Master



Karma:
Posts: 676
(676 all sites)
Registered: 8/9/2008
Status: Offline

  posted on 5/5/2009 at 09:07 PM

I'm still a Big Fan!

 

____________________
Photobucket

 

Peach Master



Karma:
Posts: 773
(779 all sites)
Registered: 10/10/2006
Status: Offline

  posted on 5/5/2009 at 09:36 PM
If Joe had a big head about himself before it's probably worse now:

Tonight, May 4th "New King Of The Blues", hard rockin' blues guitarist Joe Bonamassa played a sold out show at London's prestigious Royal Albert Hall.


As a very special guest, none other than "Slowhand", guitar legend Eric Clapton joined Bonamassa on stage for a very bluesworthy version of "Further On Up The Road".


http://nightwatchershouseofrock.blogspot.com/

 
<<  1    2    3    4  >>  


Powered by XForum 1.81.1 by Trollix Software


Privacy | Terms of Service
The ALLMAN BROTHERS BAND name, The ALLMAN BROTHERS name, likenesses, logos, mushroom design and peach truck are all registered trademarks of THE ABB MERCHANDISING CO., INC. whose rights are specifically reserved. Any artwork, visual, or audio representations used on this web site CONTAINING ANY REGISTERED TRADEMARKS are under license from The ABB MERCHANDISING CO., INC. A REVOCABLE, GRATIS LICENSE IS GRANTED TO ALL REGISTERED PEACH CORP MEMBERS FOR The DOWNLOADING OF ONE COPY FOR PERSONAL USE ONLY. ANY DISTRIBUTION OR REPRODUCTION OF THE TRADEMARKS CONTAINED HEREIN ARE PROHIBITED AND ARE SPECIFICALLY RESERVED BY THE ABB MERCHANDISING CO.,INC.
site by Hittin' the Web Group with www.experiencewasabi3d.com