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  posted on 5/1/2009 at 09:19 AM
I think charging 25 bucks plus shipping for a moogis shirt is rediculous. anytime you go to a restaurant, record store, head shop etc where they sell their own branded t-shirt, they are cheap. reason being is b/c the folks who buy them are now walking billboards. I would be more than happy to do some free marketing for Butch and Moogis, but for me to pay 25 bucks plus shipping to do their marketing for them, is wrong. I purchased a subscription on day one, even convinced a friend to purchase as well. Sorry for feeling this way but shouldn't you get a shirt w/ a subscription or at the very least be able to puchase one for $15 after shipping. makes sense to me

 

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  posted on 5/1/2009 at 09:31 AM
Shipping is included in the $25 unless you're overseas. The shirts are also cool-max material, not ordinary cotton or cotton/poly. It's a fair deal.
 

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  posted on 5/1/2009 at 09:44 AM
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I think charging 25 bucks plus shipping for a moogis shirt is rediculous. anytime you go to a restaurant, record store, head shop etc where they sell their own branded t-shirt, they are cheap. reason being is b/c the folks who buy them are now walking billboards. I would be more than happy to do some free marketing for Butch and Moogis, but for me to pay 25 bucks plus shipping to do their marketing for them, is wrong. I purchased a subscription on day one, even convinced a friend to purchase as well. Sorry for feeling this way but shouldn't you get a shirt w/ a subscription or at the very least be able to puchase one for $15 after shipping. makes sense to me
Absolutely why I won't wear anything identifiable, except for a very few exceptions: I used to have t-shirts featuring Reese's Peanut Butter Cups (had to, just had to!), Eat a Peach, Duane Allman (1973 vintage), Laurel and Hardy (made it with an iron-on transfer), a friend's speaker company (outstanding gear), and a local radio station (I won it for outsmarting a host's attempt at a trick Beatles trivia question. I know everything about them , and boy, was I smug when I rubbed it in! But he was good-humored about it.)

When I wear Nike sweatbands I turn them inside out since they didn't pay me to display their logo.

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  posted on 5/1/2009 at 09:51 AM
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I think charging 25 bucks plus shipping for a moogis shirt is rediculous. anytime you go to a restaurant, record store, head shop etc where they sell their own branded t-shirt, they are cheap. reason being is b/c the folks who buy them are now walking billboards. I would be more than happy to do some free marketing for Butch and Moogis, but for me to pay 25 bucks plus shipping to do their marketing for them, is wrong. I purchased a subscription on day one, even convinced a friend to purchase as well. Sorry for feeling this way but shouldn't you get a shirt w/ a subscription or at the very least be able to puchase one for $15 after shipping. makes sense to me
I don't feel that $25 t-shirt is out of line. If you don't feel it's reasonable, don't buy one...simple.

 

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  posted on 5/1/2009 at 10:11 AM
We tend to forget that Moogis is a for-profit business venture, not a fringe benefit for fans of the band. The $25 price is actually cheaper than the prices for ABB t-shirts- most are around $35.

That said, the price is more than I would pay to advertise someone else's business.

 

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  posted on 5/1/2009 at 10:14 AM
Depending on the printing process and the quality, shirt printing can be expensive, even when purchase in bulk. $20/25 is pretty standard for merch shirts. Free shirts are usually very cheaply made (I'heart'NY shirts) or made in such huge quantities (like when you they toss out Letterman shirts at the show) and Moogis isn't nearly as big as either of those.

Considering all of the effort that went into giving fans the opportunity to experience their favorite band this year with Moogis and the Beacon albums, there sure has been a lot of nitpicking, so I will add a "thank you" to the guys that made it all happen to cancel some of that out.

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  posted on 5/1/2009 at 10:38 AM
I gladly ordered one. Now for twenty I would had ordered two........

 

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  posted on 5/1/2009 at 03:24 PM
Only wear my Duane shirts or my DB&GS...worthy and respected.
I advertise for those only paying me.

I saw ol' Bluedud wearing a "Sheep Reproductive Clinic" shirt once...
wonder if he got paid in cash or trade?

 

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  posted on 5/1/2009 at 04:27 PM
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I think charging 25 bucks plus shipping for a moogis shirt is rediculous. anytime you go to a restaurant, record store, head shop etc where they sell their own branded t-shirt, they are cheap. reason being is b/c the folks who buy them are now walking billboards. I would be more than happy to do some free marketing for Butch and Moogis, but for me to pay 25 bucks plus shipping to do their marketing for them, is wrong. I purchased a subscription on day one, even convinced a friend to purchase as well. Sorry for feeling this way but shouldn't you get a shirt w/ a subscription or at the very least be able to puchase one for $15 after shipping. makes sense to me


Maybe I'm cynical, but where the heck are the places you're going that you can find a brand t-shirt for under $25. Man, everywhere I got it's like 35-40 for a tshirt...

One thing though... why are you concerned about doing marketing for them, isn't that the POINT of getting a tshirt to support the products you love and want to support?

 

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  posted on 5/1/2009 at 04:36 PM
I wouldn't spend that much on a shirt just advertising Moogis. I hardly buy concert tee shirts anymore. Prices for a cotton tee shirt have just gotten out of hand. I will buy one once in a while when I see a cool one I can't resist or when they are priced reasonably. I won't spend any more than $30.00 though even for the coolest of shirts. $25.00 for a simple Moogis shirt regardless of material used is too much IMO. $15.00 would be more in line for such a simple shirt especially since it is great free advertising for Moogis. I don't have to worry because they aren't even offering to widebodies like me.

 

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  posted on 5/2/2009 at 12:05 PM
I think a T-shirt should have been included in the subscription!!
 

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  posted on 5/2/2009 at 01:42 PM
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I think a T-shirt should have been included in the subscription!!


For an extra 25 dollars it is .

 

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  posted on 5/2/2009 at 01:53 PM
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I think a T-shirt should have been included in the subscription!!


For an extra 25 dollars it is .


So lemme get this straight,

If you paid the early bird subscription price of $100, you don't get the free shirt?
But if you paid the late fee of $25 you don't get the free shirt either?




I don't like the colors, wouldn't be caught dead in a red shirt, a black one, maybe, but never from April through November, and blue, well, blue never was my color.

Any bootleg knockoffs in the works???
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  posted on 5/2/2009 at 02:34 PM
I'm not getting one!!!!!
 

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  posted on 5/2/2009 at 02:43 PM
I buy less concert tees than I did in the past and tend to buy more from artists like Warren/Mule or the dtb whose paraphanelia is always much cheaper then the ABB. So, I still buy an ABB shirt or two each year but I buy more of others nowadays. That being said, I wanted a moogis tee shirt to help Butch advertise moogis so that it will have a future. I am 62 and don't do certain venues due to types of seats (if any) and other conditions (all day in the sun) that I can no longer handle. I went to the Beacon for 3 shows 3 different years but can't do it any more. I see moogis filling a great void for me. In addition, there are many many people who don't go to shows after a certain age that varies with their tolerance levels and moogis would fill a void for all these people. Plus it is about the level of Warren and Derek gear and less than ABB shirts. What would be the right price for those who are complaining? Are you complaining over $5? Just think of it as an investment in your viewing future. It is not that much. If you are talking more than $5 then I don't think we live in the same world anyway.

 

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  posted on 5/2/2009 at 09:15 PM
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I think charging 25 bucks plus shipping for a moogis shirt is rediculous. anytime you go to a restaurant, record store, head shop etc where they sell their own branded t-shirt, they are cheap. reason being is b/c the folks who buy them are now walking billboards. I would be more than happy to do some free marketing for Butch and Moogis, but for me to pay 25 bucks plus shipping to do their marketing for them, is wrong. I purchased a subscription on day one, even convinced a friend to purchase as well. Sorry for feeling this way but shouldn't you get a shirt w/ a subscription or at the very least be able to puchase one for $15 after shipping. makes sense to me


Maybe I'm cynical, but where the heck are the places you're going that you can find a brand t-shirt for under $25. Man, everywhere I got it's like 35-40 for a tshirt...

One thing though... why are you concerned about doing marketing for them, isn't that the POINT of getting a tshirt to support the products you love and want to support?


manifest records charlotte $15
Panthers and Bobcats games free at times to market their sponsers

My local beer store here in charlotte gives out his t-shirts for continued business, if you have been to a beerfest in charlotte you can see the positive impact of that decision due to the HUNDREDS of people wearing a Brawley's beverage shirt. It's great businesss.
The manufacturers that I represent at work give us shirts to support their brands while in the field. Companies spend a lot of money in marketing and it is rare for a company like moogis to make such a profit to support their brand. I supported moogis by purchasing a subscription. The point of me wearing a t shirt is due to comfort and the fact that they are cheap or supposed to be. I hoped I answerd your questions, and I hope you aren't paying someone $40 to market for them.

 

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  posted on 5/3/2009 at 11:56 AM
cynic!

 

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  posted on 5/3/2009 at 04:05 PM
I buy the ABB shirts because I love the band and I love the designs and colors.
I think they are cool to wear and I don't mind advertising for the band.

Moogis is a good product and I paid $100 for it. It's worth it. But I'm not paying $25
nor for that matter, $10 for a Moogis t-shirt. I'm not going to advertise for Butch.

This is not a complaint, it's a statement.

[Edited on 5/3/2009 by ruthelane]

 

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  posted on 5/3/2009 at 04:09 PM
It IS all about the money, after all.

 

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