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  posted on 4/25/2009 at 07:53 AM
I may have missed it, but I don't rememeber seeing any threads dedicated to Warren's masterful first, pre-Gov't Mule solo album.

This album, released in 1993, was co-produced by Chuck Levell along with Warren, and Chuck contributes keyboards.

There is some solid material on this album. My favorite track, Fire in the Kitchen would still fit in just fine on any current Gov't Mule setlist.

Any impressions on this one? I'd be interested in hearing them.

Strangely enough, the original release was on the Mega Force label, which was primarily known as a metal label at the time if I remember correctly.

Is this one hard to find? Has it ever been re-released?

I found mine in a cut-out bin years ago, so it has that dreaded notch in the corner. I'm very happy to have it though....

[Edited on 4/25/2009 by les_paul_sunburst]

 

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  posted on 4/25/2009 at 08:06 AM
Great stuff! As far as I know, it is not hard to find. I've had mine for several years, so I don't remember how I acquired it.

That CD doesn't get a chance to get dust on it. There are some gems on it, for sure. In fact, I think I will play that today in honor of this thread.

 

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  posted on 4/25/2009 at 08:25 AM
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Great stuff! As far as I know, it is not hard to find. I've had mine for several years, so I don't remember how I acquired it.

That CD doesn't get a chance to get dust on it. There are some gems on it, for sure. In fact, I think I will play that today in honor of this thread.


Hey there Mudflapgirl..

I just went to Dickey's site to check on a vine that I'm on there and guess what was playing on his site radio?

Fire in the Kitchen off Ordinary Madness! lol!

That has to be a sign from somewhere so I'm gonna play the disc through as well..

[Edited on 4/25/2009 by les_paul_sunburst]

 

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  posted on 4/25/2009 at 08:42 AM
great disc then and still great

 

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  posted on 4/25/2009 at 08:55 AM

A little fuzzy but you get the picture


 

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  posted on 4/25/2009 at 08:59 AM
Great album and highly underrated in my opinion. At the time, I'm guessing not too many people knew who Warren was so I'm sure the notice of a Warren solo album would be much greater were it released today. Warren still plays some of the songs off of that with Mule and during his accoustic shows. My fav is "I'll Be the One".
 
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  posted on 4/25/2009 at 09:13 AM
I have it as well. I remember Rolling Stone magazine giving it a great review, you might
want to check their website for that. When I saw the Allman Brothers at Great Woods in 1993,
Warren Haynes was pulling double duty as the opening act, performing songs (with a back-up
band) from Tales of Ordinary Madness.

 

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  posted on 4/25/2009 at 09:19 AM
Saw him on this tour in Nashville..... Maybe 100 people there.......

I like when the Mule pulls one of these tunes out......

 

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  posted on 4/25/2009 at 09:53 AM
A quick look at amazon.com will tell you that there is no problem finding this CD, they have new copies in stock at $12.98. Interesting that the 24 user reviews are quite mixed; most (I assume Haynes fans) rave about it, it gets mostly 4 or 5 stars out of 5. However some REALLY trashed it, in fact three consecutive reviewers gave it ONE star....... "sounds like a cross between Ronnie Montrose (at his worst) and Sammy Hagar". Being a Warren fan myself, I wouldn't want to pass judgment until I heard it.

 

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I've seen a few threads dedicated to this album over the years and I still think I'm the only one who doesn't care for this album. I got into Warren's music with ABB and early Mule. I loved the rawness, the minimal production of early Mule. Collected as many live shows as possible. I picked up Tales well after Dose.
I just can't get into it at all. VERY highly produced "80s" kind of sound to my ears. Don't care for the songs either. Just doesn't compare to a lot of Warren's other writing in my opinion. I actually much prefer the "reworked" version of I'll be the one that Mule put out with Andy a few years ago, without all of the studio magic.
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  posted on 4/25/2009 at 10:08 AM
Love that cd....

 

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  posted on 4/25/2009 at 10:08 AM
I'm on the fence with this one.Its got some good points.But Ive got to agree with mule75 on the production of this one.I got this cd after being totaly imursed in the MULE.I guess I am partial to LIVE MULE.You can't beat LIVE MULE music for your ass!!!!!
 

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  posted on 4/25/2009 at 10:32 AM
It's a good album because Warren Haynes really can't be bad, but it's very, very cheesy in some spots.

"Fire in the Kitchen," "I'll be the One" and "Broken Promise Land" are good songs, but songs like "Movers & Shakers" and "Kiss Tomorrow Goodbye" are just downright cheesy. "Sister Justice?" "Angel City?" CHEESE!

2.5 out of 5 stars for the fact that the playing is excellent, but the songs are weak and the production is cheesy!



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  posted on 4/25/2009 at 10:35 AM
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It's a good album because Warren Haynes really can't be bad, but it's very, very cheesy in some spots.

"Fire in the Kitchen," "I'll be the One" and "Broken Promise Land" are good songs, but songs like "Movers & Shakers" and "Kiss Tomorrow Goodbye" are just downright cheesy. "Sister Justice?" "Angel City?" CHEESE!

2.5 out of 5 stars for the fact that the playing is excellent, but the songs are weak and the production is cheesy!



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  posted on 4/25/2009 at 10:53 AM
Rolling Stone gave it 4 stars, AllMusic.com also gave it a four star review.

 

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  posted on 4/25/2009 at 11:24 AM
As a side note, "Tales of Ordinary Madness" was a Charles Bukowski book. Bukowski is a hoot.
 

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  posted on 4/25/2009 at 11:49 AM
If that album had been on a major label, it may have sold millions with the proper support.

The production is slick and a different sound than the ABB or Govt Mule but that is what I like about it. Makes for a different listen.

 

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  posted on 4/25/2009 at 12:59 PM
It's a good album but it doesn't compare to any of the Gov't Mule albums. "Gov't Mule" which would be released just two years later was worlds better. I also think some of the lyrics on some of the songs were heavy handed.

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  posted on 4/25/2009 at 01:19 PM
I prefer the Govt Mule albums also but my wife prefers Tales. Mostly because it is much more commercial and more accessible to the masses. If "I'll Be The One" had recieved proper support than Warren might be a household name.

To me it is just another side to Warren. Perhaps a more soulful one which relies less on guitar solos. The same as the acoustic shows are yet another side of him.

I like it all.

 

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  posted on 4/25/2009 at 01:42 PM
I don't like it as much as Life Before Insanity.

I think it is over produced.

I would like to see him do another studio solo cd that is more commercially oriented but not as over produced as Tales and certainly with much better writing than Tales, which is what I think is captured more so on the Mule material. I see Tales as a marker from a cross road in time.

 

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  posted on 4/25/2009 at 01:58 PM
Mule did "blue Radio" first time I saw them. which I think is one of Warren's best songs.

Also have heard "Fire in the Kitchen"," I'll be the one" and "Broken Promise Land" from
either Mule or Warren solo.

I like it a lot.

Chuck with Warren assisting did a job on the production also.

 

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  posted on 4/25/2009 at 02:03 PM
I agree with Angela that it was a little over produced. I like it but not as much as any of the Gov't Mule albums.

 

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  posted on 4/25/2009 at 02:11 PM
Overproduced, but still love it. Blue Radio is my favorite.

 

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  posted on 4/25/2009 at 02:44 PM
I think Warren has developed much more as a songwriter, particularly as a lyricist. He has learned that less is sometimes more. The songs on Tales are very wordy.

 

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