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  posted on 9/11/2003 at 09:58 AM
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  posted on 9/11/2003 at 10:50 AM

Is he better at singing, playing guitar, or songwriting?

Is he better at singing, playing guitar, songwriting, or leading a band?

Is he better at singing, playing guitar, songwriting, leading a band, or producing a record?

I dunno ... take your pick!

 

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  posted on 9/11/2003 at 11:05 AM
All of the above

 

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  posted on 9/11/2003 at 11:19 AM
I'd agree - Warren is better......................

 

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  posted on 9/11/2003 at 11:26 AM
I don't think of Warren as a singer, guitarist, band leader or producer.

He is a great musician.

He sings beautifully with both his voice and his guitar.

[Edited on 9/11/2003 by johnwott]

 

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  posted on 9/11/2003 at 11:40 AM
o.k. i actually thought about this before i posted this.

i think warren is a better overall Guitar player out of the two given choices. no doubt in my mind. some of the notes he plays grab me by the ear and tilt my head to the side and make me wince. that's a good thing.

but when he sings songs like Beautifully Broken or Patchwork Quilt i would have a hard time deciding. i think he sings very empatically, but i think his style has been done before.

perhaps i value our Big Windy most as a writer overall though. no one wiill play his songs like he does but lets step back, and thank the gods that we have his songs to begin with - no matter who will play them in the years to come (which i'm quite sure will happen...this guy is waaay underrated as a writer)

my 10 cent anyway.
good topic.
i havent thought about anything all day - i'm at work!

[Edited on 9/11/2003 by LinnieXX]

 

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  posted on 9/11/2003 at 03:05 PM
*bump* to the top of todays messages....

 

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  posted on 9/11/2003 at 04:16 PM
Wow, this is interesting. As a guitar player, I'd say he's more of an amazing singer. Now that's not to put down his guitar playing. In fact he's an amazing guitar player and one of my favourites. However, and this is only from my personal experience, I have been singing and playing guitar almost my entire life. I continue to improve at guitar and have been able to learn various styles by ear, by reading and by various mentors. I work at them and make them better. And I'm (not in a cocky way) quite good at it. I think most people who can dedicate their life to it, can turn that into their own style and reach several people who feel they are excellent. However with my voice, I've only gotten so far. I have a pretty lousy voice and though I can sing well, when I rehearse, I'll never be able to sing even slightly as wonderfully as Warren. You're limited by what you're born with when it comes to vocals, and someone like Warren is truly gifted. - For the most part, if someone wants you to hit a note on the guitar, all you need to know is where the note is, and you put your finger there and play it. (I know there's much more that goes into it, but I'm using an analogy here). With voice, not only do you not have a physical place to make a pitch that is consistant from person to person, but there are many notes that simply aren't in a person's range. - Plus there are so many great guitar players, like Derek & Jimmy, who don't sing. Warren really has a lot to offer...
 

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  posted on 9/11/2003 at 04:26 PM
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but when he sings songs like Beautifully Broken or Patchwork Quilt i would have a hard time deciding. i think he sings very empatically, but i think his style has been done before.




Well I think you hear his love of motown and great r&b singers in his style.

The Show at the Beacon this year when he did "I've been loving you too long"
man was that great. Definitely thought of Otis when he sang that.
especially with the horn arrangement. (compare it to Otis's performance
at montery pop in 67 )

For me the thing that stands out on "Tales of ordinary madness" is "Blue Radio."
his vocal performance is amazing. I Love when mule does it also.

Remember when he first hooked up with Dickey it was for singing backup vocals.
(Although Dickey was well aware of his guitar skills)

Still I believe his talent is his all arround talent.

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  posted on 9/11/2003 at 05:22 PM
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Well I think you hear his love of motown and great r&b singers in his style.


yupper. still good though. better than most but a better writer than anything IMHO

 

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  posted on 9/11/2003 at 06:25 PM
Seems Warren might say the singing begats the guitar. To wit:


"I started singing at an early age -- seven or eight -- and it was all soul singers. James Brown was a huge influence. Otis Redding, Sam and Dave, Wilson Pickett, the Four Tops. Tina Turner was a big influence. I would sit in my room and emulate these soul singers. Then, when I heard Sly and the Family Stone, something freaked me out. There ws something going on. That kind of built a bridge that carried me over to Hendrix and Clapton and Cream. When I heard that stuff, I though 'Oh My God, I really want to play guitar.'"


Ref: HITTIN' THE NOTE 38 Spring 2003 pg 33
Article: WARREN HAYNES The Art Of Creating The Improvisational Solo.

 

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  posted on 9/11/2003 at 09:31 PM
funkie pluck Jazzer! thanks!

 

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  posted on 9/11/2003 at 09:53 PM
Warren is so sweet!!

 

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  posted on 10/9/2003 at 02:47 AM
When I think of awesome guitar tone Warren is who I think of. His tone is the only tone I would love to nail down perfect. I also have to say he has the best tone out there today.
 

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  posted on 11/2/2003 at 10:03 PM
I think Warren is sweet at it all but he still waches in reaspect and Derek shows him up.
 

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  posted on 11/3/2003 at 11:51 AM
i love both but if i had to pick one it would be his guitar work.i get goosebumps everytime i see him play.he just keeps gettin' better and better
 

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  posted on 11/3/2003 at 06:36 PM
Going back to his tone, I think that his tone is pretty easy to get compared to Derek's tone. Stevie Ray Vaughn had a unique tone too. He used a really heavy gauge set of strings that made him have a more crisp sound.

 

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  posted on 11/3/2003 at 06:43 PM
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  posted on 11/21/2003 at 06:53 AM
"For the most part, if someone wants you to hit a note on the guitar, all you need to know is where the note is, and you put your finger there and play it. (I know there's much more that goes into it, but I'm using an analogy here). With voice, not only do you not have a physical place to make a pitch that is consistant from person to person, but there are many notes that simply aren't in a person's range"

makes sense...also implies that singing (since it is so much a natural talent that can only be IMPROVED by practice) requires, perhaps, not as much physical effort as playing an instrument, the mastery over which depends solely on the time and sweat invested...

in the same vein, it might even be safe to say that anyone with an excellent voice would end up being a better singer than instrumentalist...the extent to which a voice can be controlled is huge, considering we start mastering modulation, feel and intonation pretty much from the time we learn to speak...thats a lot of time to spend with an instrument...

just a thought, s'all...

 

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  posted on 11/21/2003 at 08:13 PM
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perhaps, not as much physical effort as playing an instrument, the mastery over which depends solely on the time and sweat invested...

I guess I understand where you're coming from, but have you ever seen anybody who looks like he's putting as much effort into his playing as Warren does?

 

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  posted on 11/24/2003 at 03:01 AM


stevie ray vaughan...bb king...

 

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  posted on 12/1/2003 at 11:48 AM
Man Warren Haynes is a killer Guitar Player/ Singer/ Writer. One of the best in the bussiness!A very hard question to answer..

 

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