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  posted on 4/14/2009 at 12:40 PM
It would appear Comrade Napolitano, BarryO's apparatchik for Homeland Security is wasting no time in her new duties. Here we see the groundwork being laid to persecute those who don't toe the "progressive, enlightened and tolerant" line. She's preparing to take our rights while Comrade Holder prepares to take our guns and Comrade Pelosi takes our money. See how tyranny works boys and girls?

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Federal agency warns of radicals on right
9-page report sent to police
By Audrey Hudson (Contact) and Eli Lake (Contact) | Tuesday, April 14, 2009

The Department of Homeland Security is warning law enforcement officials about a rise in "rightwing extremist activity," saying the economic recession, the election of America's first black president and the return of a few disgruntled war veterans could swell the ranks of white-power militias.

A footnote attached to the report by the Homeland Security Office of Intelligence and Analysis defines "rightwing extremism in the United States" as including not just racist or hate groups, but also groups that reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority.

"It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single-issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration," the warning says.

The White House has distanced itself from the analysis. When asked for comment on its contents, White House spokesman Nick Shapiro said, "The President is focused not on politics but rather taking the steps necessary to protect all Americans from the threat of violence and terrorism regardless of its origins. He also believes those who serve represent the best of this country, and he will continue to ensure that our veterans receive the respect and benefits they have earned."

The nine-page document was sent to police and sheriff's departments across the United States on April 7 under the headline, "Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment."

It says the federal government "will be working with its state and local partners over the next several months" to gather information on "rightwing extremist activity in the United States."

The joint federal-state activities will have "a particular emphasis" on the causes of "rightwing extremist radicalization."

Homeland Security spokeswoman Sara Kuban said the report is one in an ongoing series of assessments by the department to "facilitate a greater understanding of the phenomenon of violent radicalization in the U.S."

The report, which was first disclosed to the public by nationally syndicated radio host Roger Hedgecock, makes clear that the Homeland Security Department does not have "specific information that domestic rightwing terrorists are currently planning acts of violence."It warns that fringe organizations are gaining recruits, but it provides no numbers.

 

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  posted on 4/14/2009 at 12:50 PM
We've already forwarded them all your posts......where did you say you keep your guns..................?

 

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  posted on 4/14/2009 at 12:53 PM
As if conservatives need something else to be afraid of....

 

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  posted on 4/14/2009 at 12:56 PM
Let's ask the parents who had kids in daycare at the federal building in Oklahoma City how they feel about this.

 

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After Katrina, he's just surprised somebody in government actually does their job.....

 

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Analysis defines "rightwing extremism in the United States" as including not just racist or hate groups, but also groups that reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority.


What on earth could be causing this?

 

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  posted on 4/14/2009 at 01:02 PM
Time to step up the warrantless wiretapping. I think the earlier defense of that went something like "if you're not doing anything wrong, there's nothing to be worried about."
Funny things, those precedents.

 

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Analysis defines "rightwing extremism in the United States" as including not just racist or hate groups, but also groups that reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority.


What on earth could be causing this?


Anybody that's enough of a dupe to vote for BarryO is unlikely to be able to put the pieces together. They prefer the comfort of their dream world anyway.

 

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Analysis defines "rightwing extremism in the United States" as including not just racist or hate groups, but also groups that reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority.


What on earth could be causing this?


Probably the same kind of paranoia that blossomed when Clinton got elected and led to domestic terrorism.

 

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  posted on 4/14/2009 at 01:08 PM
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Analysis defines "rightwing extremism in the United States" as including not just racist or hate groups, but also groups that reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority.
What on earth could be causing this?

Anybody that's enough of a dupe to vote for BarryO is unlikely to be able to put the pieces together. They prefer the comfort of their dream world anyway.
Hmmm - better our dream than your nightmare...

 

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Analysis defines "rightwing extremism in the United States" as including not just racist or hate groups, but also groups that reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority.


What on earth could be causing this?



Probably things like the guy in Pittsburgh that shot the cops because he "thought" someone was going to come and take his guns.......wonder where he got that idea?

 

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Analysis defines "rightwing extremism in the United States" as including not just racist or hate groups, but also groups that reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority.


What on earth could be causing this?


Probably the same kind of paranoia that blossomed when Clinton got elected and led to domestic terrorism.


Nixon also?

 

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Yeah, it's just an epedemic of insane righty paranoia. Looks like the Governor of Texas has caught it too.

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WAKE UP CALL: TEXAS GOV. BACK RESOLUTION AFFIRMING SOVEREIGNTY
Tue Apr 14 2009 08:44:54 ET

AUSTIN – Gov. Rick Perry joined state Rep. Brandon Creighton and sponsors of House Concurrent Resolution (HCR) 50 in support of states’ rights under the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

“I believe that our federal government has become oppressive in its size, its intrusion into the lives of our citizens, and its interference with the affairs of our state,” Gov. Perry said. “That is why I am here today to express my unwavering support for efforts all across our country to reaffirm the states’ rights affirmed by the Tenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. I believe that returning to the letter and spirit of the U.S. Constitution and its essential 10th Amendment will free our state from undue regulations, and ultimately strengthen our Union.”

Perry continued: "Millions of Texans are tired of Washington, DC trying to come down here to tell us how to run Texas."

A number of recent federal proposals are not within the scope of the federal government’s constitutionally designated powers and impede the states’ right to govern themselves. HCR 50 affirms that Texas claims sovereignty under the 10th Amendment over all powers not otherwise granted to the federal government.

It also designates that all compulsory federal legislation that requires states to comply under threat of civil or criminal penalties, or that requires states to pass legislation or lose federal funding, be prohibited or repealed.

 

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Analysis defines "rightwing extremism in the United States" as including not just racist or hate groups, but also groups that reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority.


What on earth could be causing this?


Probably the same kind of paranoia that blossomed when Clinton got elected and led to domestic terrorism.


Nixon also?



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while Comrade Holder prepares to take our guns


Not to worry "Cup Cake" I will put in a good word for you so they don't take your little "pistol" from you. By they way the red gown looks marvelous!

 

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I keep flip-flopping back and forth on whether I'll be attending the Tea Party here or not. On one hand I really feel like I should be there, plus the good people-watching, ect. Then I become apprehensive again because of all the violence and destruction that will take place. Just can't decide..You know how violent those right-wing dissenters can get...

Then I came up with an idea! I'm going to show up posing as an ACORN operative just to be on the safe side. (No -- not like the ones sent to stalk AIG workers, but one of the nice guy ACORN men). I'll be able to take it all in, stay off Janet's hit list, and maybe even find out how I can get my hands on some of that ACORN stimulus cash!

 

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I keep flip-flopping back and forth on whether I'll be attending the Tea Party here or not. On one hand I really feel like I should be there, plus the good people-watching, ect. Then I become apprehensive again because of all the violence and destruction that will take place. Just can't decide..You know how violent those right-wing dissenters can get...

Then I came up with an idea! I'm going to show up posing as an ACORN operative just to be on the safe side. (No -- not like the ones sent to stalk AIG workers, but one of the nice guy ACORN men). I'll be able to take it all in, stay off Janet's hit list, and maybe even find out how I can get my hands on some of that ACORN stimulus cash!


You should go. You can probably get a good deal on Timothy McVeigh posters.

 

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I keep flip-flopping back and forth on whether I'll be attending the Tea Party here or not. On one hand I really feel like I should be there, plus the good people-watching, ect. Then I become apprehensive again because of all the violence and destruction that will take place. Just can't decide..You know how violent those right-wing dissenters can get...

Then I came up with an idea! I'm going to show up posing as an ACORN operative just to be on the safe side. (No -- not like the ones sent to stalk AIG workers, but one of the nice guy ACORN men). I'll be able to take it all in, stay off Janet's hit list, and maybe even find out how I can get my hands on some of that ACORN stimulus cash!


You should go. You can probably get a good deal on Timothy McVeigh posters.


Yes. And maybe get it signed by William Ayers and the Unabomber. What would that fetch on ebay?

 

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Nothing. Nobody cares about Ayers except Sean Hannity and a few right-wing nutjobs.

 

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I keep flip-flopping back and forth on whether I'll be attending the Tea Party here or not. On one hand I really feel like I should be there, plus the good people-watching, ect. Then I become apprehensive again because of all the violence and destruction that will take place. Just can't decide..You know how violent those right-wing dissenters can get...

Then I came up with an idea! I'm going to show up posing as an ACORN operative just to be on the safe side. (No -- not like the ones sent to stalk AIG workers, but one of the nice guy ACORN men). I'll be able to take it all in, stay off Janet's hit list, and maybe even find out how I can get my hands on some of that ACORN stimulus cash!


You should go. You can probably get a good deal on Timothy McVeigh posters.


Yes. And maybe get it signed by William Ayers and the Unabomber. What would that fetch on ebay?


So, I can conclude then, that you think that the President is coming after the everyday conservative such as yourself, and not the violent radicals?

I know you'll never admit conservatives are anything less that perfect in every way, but I have a hard time believing that you'd advocate violence.

 

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Analysis defines "rightwing extremism in the United States" as including not just racist or hate groups, but also groups that reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority.


What on earth could be causing this?
inbreeding,mental illness??they're america haters I tell ya!.

 

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This from the Department who now doesn't like to use the word terrorism as it relates to radical islam and the Department who is against worksite raids for illegal immigrants - yeah I'm plenty happy with their stance on things.

If they are going to single out groups of people as extremists let us not forget about the wack jobs from the ELF and animal rights groups.

But what is "right wing extremism"?

I believe in the expansion of state's rights with less federal influence, think globalization is/has ruined the US economy and job base, I boycott products made in China, want the US Dollar to remain the currency of our country, don't think our sovereignty or any portion of it should be turned over to groups like the UN or the WTO or any other global group, think illegal immigration needs to be strongly addressed with illegal immigrants receiving punishment they deserve, the election of a Democrat for President prompted me to rejoin the NRA - these issues typically resonate more with right-leaning people, is it an extremist view, somebody going to be watching me now? Seems like plain common sense to me.

I would think people who support growth of federal government, embrace globalization, aren't bothered by outsourcing, want global groups and organizations to have greater control and influence over our nation, those who promote making people in our country illegally US citizens, restrictions of Constitutional rights (ie 2nd amendment)...those people believing, supporting or advocating those points are the extremists.

 

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I keep flip-flopping back and forth on whether I'll be attending the Tea Party here or not. On one hand I really feel like I should be there, plus the good people-watching, ect. Then I become apprehensive again because of all the violence and destruction that will take place. Just can't decide..You know how violent those right-wing dissenters can get...

Then I came up with an idea! I'm going to show up posing as an ACORN operative just to be on the safe side. (No -- not like the ones sent to stalk AIG workers, but one of the nice guy ACORN men). I'll be able to take it all in, stay off Janet's hit list, and maybe even find out how I can get my hands on some of that ACORN stimulus cash!


You should go. You can probably get a good deal on Timothy McVeigh posters.


Yes. And maybe get it signed by William Ayers and the Unabomber. What would that fetch on ebay?


So, I can conclude then, that you think that the President is coming after the everyday conservative such as yourself, and not the violent radicals?

I know you'll never admit conservatives are anything less that perfect in every way, but I have a hard time believing that you'd advocate violence.



The line that jumped out at me was the part about those that disagree with an issue like abortion or immigration. Possible Right-wing terrorists? These are everyday topics that may concern your everyday conservative. Not to be equated with someone rigging a bomb in his basement, or at least I hope so. Why would somebody who favors states rights be labeled a "right-wing extremist?" C'mon.

I think the Obama administration is ultra-sensitive to anybody disagrees with it, and their definition of a "right-wing terrorist" is getting dangerously close to somebody who merely disagrees on policy matters. This administration needs to grow some Rhino skin badly. ..When you choose to enter politics, dissenters are pretty common and Obama should know this. He needs to learn to live with it rather than try to mischaracterize people or shut them up. Tactics like this won't do much for the reputation that he already has with a lot of people.

This is a non-issue IMO, but the timing of this report is pretty interesting.



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The line that jumped out at me was the part about those that disagree with an issue like abortion or immigration. Possible Right-wing terrorists? These are everyday topics that may concern your everyday conservative. Not to be equated with someone rigging a bomb in his basement, or at least I hope so. Why would somebody who favors states rights be labeled a "right-wing extremist?" C'mon.


You are missing the forest for the trees. The majority of confirmed RW groups include many people that are anti-immigrant and typically anti-government (or more specifically anti-democrat led government). Thats not to say that everyone that is anti-government or anti-immigration are extremists, only that the RW extremists tend to have those traits.

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I think the Obama administration is ultra-sensitive to anybody disagrees with it, and their definition of a "right-wing terrorist" is getting dangerously close to somebody who merely disagrees on policy matters.


Youre confusing them with the Bush administration. As soon as it was apparent that Obama was likely to win the election, we started receiving intelligence notices to be aware of any increases in hate groups, RW radicals etc. We have been advised that there will be increased interest in Obama and of the Left by these groups. Should we just ignore all that intelligence? Where do you think the OK City bomber came from?

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This administration needs to grow some Rhino skin badly. ..When you choose to enter politics, dissenters are pretty common and Obama should know this.


Again, you are overreacting to this issue.

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He needs to learn to live with it rather than try to mischaracterize people or shut them up. Tactics like this won't do much for the reputation that he already has with a lot of people.


LOL...yeah, he has such a bad reputation and Im sure he is trying to "shut people up". Please. I dont want to hear one butthurt whine from the Right after years of classifying the Left as everything from terrorists to the questioning of everyones patriotism if they dared to criticize Bush and I do mean just criticizing...not being part of a left wing radical group. Remember when the Bush justice department infiltrated anti-war protester groups? I sure as hell do. Again, I think you are severely overreacting and I want this administration to track these hate groups and ALL criminals involved in anything that might result in needless violence or another OK City.

 

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Here is an article from the AP on the same document - with a little different tone than RBK's.....

Report: Slump fuels right-wing radicals
Officials warn extremists may try to recruit GIs returning from war

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WASHINGTON - Homeland Security officials are warning that right-wing extremists could use the bad state of the U.S. economy and the election of the country's first black president to recruit members to their cause.

In an intelligence assessment issued to law enforcement last week, Homeland Security officials said there was no specific information about an attack in the works by right-wing extremists.

The agency warns that an extended economic downturn with real estate foreclosures, unemployment and an inability to obtain credit could foster an environment for extremists to recruit members who may not have been supportive of these causes in the past.

Homeland Security spokesman Sean Smith said the report is one in a series of assessments issued by the agency's intelligence and analysis unit. The agency describes these assessments as part of a series published "to facilitate a greater understanding of the phenomenon of violent radicalization in the United States."

In February, the department issued a report to law enforcement that said left-wing extremist groups were likely to use cyber attacks more often in the next 10 years to further their cause. And in September, the agency issued a report that highlighted how right-wing extremists over the past five years have used the immigration debate as a recruiting tool.

'Lone wolves'
The latest assessment started making its way into the mainstream press after conservative blogs got wind of the analysis. In this report, the agency warns that imposing new restrictions on firearms and returning military veterans who have difficulties assimilating back into their communities could lead to terror groups or individuals attempting to carry out attacks. The returning war veterans have skills and experience that are appealing to right-wing groups looking to carry out an attack, according to the report.

The agency cites the April 4 killings of three Pittsburgh police officers as an example of a the type of violence spurred by right-wing rhetoric.

"Despite similarities to the climate of the 1990s, the threat posed by lone wolves and small terrorist cells is more pronounced than in past years," the report said.

In the 1990s, the report said, a resurgence in right-wing extremism was brought on by the poor economy and the outsourcing of jobs, with extremist groups targeting government facilities, law enforcement officers and banks.

The growth was slowed after intense government scrutiny of the 1995 Oklahoma City bombings, according to the report, but the Internet now gives extremists more access to information about making bombs and weapons training. The new technologies also make it easier for extremists to communicate, the report said, and make it more difficult for law enforcement to detect or prevent an attack.

In November, after Barack Obama's election, law enforcement officials were seeing more threats and unusual interest against a president-elect than ever before.

One of the most popular white supremacist Web sites got more than 2,000 new members the day after the election, compared with 91 new members on Election Day, according to an Associated Press count. The site, stormfront.org, was temporarily off-line Nov. 5 because of the overwhelming amount of activity it received after Election Day.

 

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