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  posted on 9/9/2003 at 08:40 AM
This is about the Derek Trucks Band 6.21.03 show....my copy has gaps and the end of each track!!

They don't seem to be the regular old TAO gaps - the CD player doesn't count off those negative numbers, EAC did not remove them during extraction, and EAC doesn't show those "0" indices between the "1" indices that I would expect....but no doubt, there is a silent segment of about 2 seconds at the end of every track.

Anyone ever run into this before???

Anyway, I fixed this show by editing the wav's...- no gaps anymore, and it's gonna be an open b&p...if interested, send 2 discs, return postage/mailer, and a note to me at the address below.

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Derek Trucks Band
06/21/2003
Cicero's
St. Louis, MO, 2 CD

Source: Audio Technica 825->M1

Preachin' Blues,
Gonna Move,
To Know You Is To Love You,
Angola,
Volunteered Slavery,
7/4 Jam,
Soul Serenade,
Sahib Teri Bandi,
Leavin' Trunk,
For My Brother,
Rastaman Chant,
Joyful Noise,
Everything Is Everything> Home In Your Heart



 

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  posted on 9/9/2003 at 08:47 AM
Jim,

I'll take you up on the offer. It will be a nice complement to the DT studio CD's that I have.

Thank you very much.


 

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  posted on 9/9/2003 at 09:27 AM
A big ole pat on the back to you Jim for removing those dreaded gaps. I will be #2 for this offer. Thanks!
 

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  posted on 9/9/2003 at 09:33 AM
Hi Jim,

I'd like to be #3 on this fine offer, thanks so much!

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They don't seem to be the regular old TAO gaps - the CD player doesn't count off those negative numbers, EAC did not remove them during extraction, and EAC doesn't show those "0" indices between the "1" indices that I would expect....but no doubt, there is a silent segment of about 2 seconds at the end of every track.

Anyone ever run into this before???


I have received shows like this before, although I'm afraid that can't offer an explanation. Was removing the gaps easy? Would love to be able to do that with the shows I have...

 

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  posted on 9/9/2003 at 09:50 AM
Hi Jim,

would love to be # 4 on this great offer

thank you for the post

robertson

 

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  posted on 9/9/2003 at 09:52 AM
Well....removing the gaps is fairly easy, I just hope I'm not doing anything that would be frowned upon by the greater trading community...

1. Normally, a regular old TAO gap can be removed by EAC during extraction to the hard drive - simply make sure the EAC option to remove leading and trailing silent gaps is enabled.

2. But...in the case of this 6.21.03 dTb copy I had, EAC didn't work - gaps were still there...so I copied as usual to the hard drive, then went into the "edit wav" feature of EAC and looked at the actual wav which is depicted like a sound waveform.
I simply deleted out the silent section at the end of each track - saved the modifed wav, then burned a copy that sounded just like it should - no gaps or even tics between tracks.

 

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  posted on 9/9/2003 at 10:55 AM
Jim, thanks for the great offer. #4 here.

...mike.

 

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  posted on 9/9/2003 at 12:14 PM
Hey Jim, as always thanks for sharing the tunes. #5 in, Paul.

 

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  posted on 9/9/2003 at 12:31 PM
I'd also like the show. Thanks for being so generous... B&P on the way.

 

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  posted on 9/9/2003 at 12:32 PM
Jim; Would love to be #5. After another Summer of concert going I've concluded that my favorite show of the season was the DTB 8-17 in Erie, Pa. Suffice to say I think these guys are great.

 

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  posted on 9/9/2003 at 12:37 PM
Damn I'm a slow typist; guess I'm #7. Thank you.

 

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  posted on 9/9/2003 at 01:12 PM
....hey folks...this is an open B&P....so don't be too concerned about counting off your spots (in fact, you don't have to post at all, although I enjoy reading them...)

...and dTb 8.17, eh? I'll have to check that one out....

 

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  posted on 9/9/2003 at 01:28 PM
Yall can't count worth a damn! Neither can I and part of my job invoves counting and it seems no matter how many people count the same quantity of items they all come up with different numbers which helps my job security frankly!

I have often wondered why people complain about TAO so much. Don't get me wrong, I hate the gaps and don't want them there. On the other hand I have yet to get a TAO show that I couldn't fix. A pain maybe but you still got the show and with a little effort you can eliminate the gaps. Like Jim I don't think you are hurting the quality of the show in any way but would love to hear from the experts.

It appears i can't spell worth a damn either!



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  posted on 9/9/2003 at 02:06 PM
I'm no expert, but this is good, repairing gapped shows...

 

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  posted on 9/9/2003 at 03:09 PM
Hey Jim Benjamin, I didn't see any tapers there in Erie 8/17; shame if nobody recorded this show - solid performance and Mike Mattison sang the sh!t out of every non-instrumental number. Show was a little short because of curfew but great while it lasted.

 

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  posted on 9/9/2003 at 09:39 PM
I've fixed TAO shows using EAC but there always seems to be that little "click" that identifies the rehab job.

If the tunes aren't affected I list the show with a caution that it's a fixed TAO. Otherwise I trash it.

It's frustrating, there's a DAO version of every TAO show out there.


 

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  posted on 9/10/2003 at 06:26 AM
If you are patient enough, you can get rid of that "tic" by going into the wav edit and expanding it out and deleteing that few 100's or 1000's of a second...

 

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  posted on 9/10/2003 at 06:29 AM
Oh! BTW, Bananaman - there were at least 3 tapers at the 8.17 dTb show that I know of...guess I can see about getting a copy of this one...

 

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