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  posted on 3/31/2009 at 07:08 PM
All this talk about albums becoming less and less viable got me thinking. Are people like me and people on this site the last of the dying breed of people who like to go to record stores. Every time I go into one I need about an hour or 2 sometimes 3 hours to make a decision and by then Ive gone through most of the albums they have out and normally strike up a conversation with somebody about music. I always look forward to going when I do. I also dont own an I-Pod dont download music from the internet besides shows. Am I just behind in the times or are the few that are still around "sacred ground" for music fans?

 

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  posted on 3/31/2009 at 07:20 PM
All I know is I will continue to buy CD's and visit record stores as long as they exist.
I've downloaded music off the internet, but it's not the same. Often the sound quality
off the web is not as good as CD's, or vinyl, for that matter. Plus, the more people
buy and download music off the web (thru i-Tunes or elsewhere), the more
record stores and CD manufacturers will go out business, creating more unemployment.
Luckily, I have 2 or 3 local independent stores in my area where I can walk in and browse
or buy to my heart's content. I also don't own an I-Pod either.

 

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  posted on 3/31/2009 at 07:26 PM
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IPownie, you're just a old fart who needs to learn to move on.

 

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  posted on 3/31/2009 at 07:31 PM
I'm an old bag(52), so I remember fondly hours spent in record stores talkin' tunes with folks and many times being exposed to stuff I hadn't heard before. I still go to them whenever I can, and I'm lucky I live in NYC. In many places the only physical place to buy music is a Borders, and they are steadily reducing the space alloted to music in their stores.
That said, I'm a jazz fan and because of the Web and do-it-yourself technology plenty of musicians now do thier own discs and sell them on their websites, thus bypassing the record companies. That makes possible the release of music that might never have seen the light of day in the past. There's good and bad...

 

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  posted on 3/31/2009 at 08:01 PM
My son who is 20 is going nuts as the last of the stores close down in NY (the big storses; there are still some second hand ones) He can spend hours upon hours searching. Ameba in LA was his favorite vacation side trip anywhere

Like so many "collectors" hobbies the internet and ebay has killed the social aspect of the old shows

 

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  posted on 3/31/2009 at 08:02 PM
When I saw this title I thought it was about our taste in music. This past Firday we strolled along in downtown Macon and passed this one club that had some band playing 90's style rock. It was packed to the gills to where there was probably close to a hundred folks outside the venue. The Cox had a nice sized crowd, but nowhere near this and it got me to thinking where our music will be in the next 20 years.

 

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  posted on 3/31/2009 at 08:06 PM
You kidding me , I'm still depressed over Tower Records closing! Very few places left to go buy music. Youngsters don't know that it was part of the experience to look over the CDs dare I say albums covers [ showing my age!].Then taking your records home & pouring over the liner notes, art or photos inside whlie listening to the tunes.
Call me a fossil ,but I enjoyed that & miss it!

 

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  posted on 3/31/2009 at 08:06 PM
I also prefer buying the actual cd when a new album comes out, but I do have an ipod for the convenience of it. It's handy when you're on a road trip & don't feel like bringing alot of cds with you. I've downloaded from itunes a few times, but it's not that often.
 

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  posted on 3/31/2009 at 08:09 PM
Love this post. Isaac, it does my heart good to know that there are young kids out there like you....I don't own an iPod but I do download (sparingly) and I can do the FLAC thing....Hey, Tree_Frog, I'll help you with that stuff. It's not that hard and I learned from a guy on this site who I called out for what I thought was trading official Cream CDs...actually he was trading about 10 DVDs worth of UNOFFICIAL Cream stuff....probably all of the available studio and live stuff that hasn't been released. Instead of telling me to f*ck off, he offered to school me. I am so grateful...you wouldn't believe how much great stuff is out there. I'm finding shows that I was at over 30 years ago that I didn't evn know were being taped. No matter how you slice it, that is WAY cool....

I love hanging out in record/CD shops. I can spend hours in them too...when I've got a new girlfriend I can tell whether it'll work out or not by how much slack she'll give me when we're at a CD store. If she gives me an hour or more, it's a match made in heaven....LOL

 

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  posted on 3/31/2009 at 08:48 PM
I love to browse too, but rarely get the opportunity. I wonder what ever became of Rose Records? I'll have to check on that. I think they became a Tower for a while, but now I don't know. I went into "Rock Records," used to be "Rolling Stone" a few months back. It was okay, but not that great. Of course, in Chicago, we have the Jazz Record Mart, so there's still some connection with the old days. Mall stores are useless, IMO, unless you're looking for Fiddy's latest.

How many people remember the big yellow book at the back of the store?

For you young-uns, the big yellow book is what we used before we had Amazon and the All-music guide.

 

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  posted on 3/31/2009 at 08:58 PM
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My son who is 20 is going nuts as the last of the stores close down in NY (the big storses; there are still some second hand ones) He can spend hours upon hours searching. Ameba in LA was his favorite vacation side trip anywhere

Like so many "collectors" hobbies the internet and ebay has killed the social aspect of the old shows


I love Amoeba too....the one is San Francisco is awesome.

Almost ever semi-big city still has at least one dominant independent record store still in existence....Rolling Stones in Chicago; Waterloo in Austin; can't think of the one in New Orleans (N.O. Music?) but it's right across the street from the HOB; Amoeba in LA and SF; there used to be a great store right around the corner from the Beacon on Amsterdam up around 80th....gone. Think it was Village CD? I know there are still some great ones in the East and West Villages....Atlanta has a bunch over in the Little 5 Points; Schoolkids in Raleigh and Chapel Hill, NC...a lot of 'em are clustered near Unversities.

SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL INDEPENDENT CD/RECORD STORES!

 

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  posted on 3/31/2009 at 09:06 PM
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I love to browse too, but rarely get the opportunity. I wonder what ever became of Rose Records? I'll have to check on that. I think they became a Tower for a while, but now I don't know. I went into "Rock Records," used to be "Rolling Stone" a few months back. It was okay, but not that great. Of course, in Chicago, we have the Jazz Record Mart, so there's still some connection with the old days. Mall stores are useless, IMO, unless you're looking for Fiddy's latest.

How many people remember the big yellow book at the back of the store?

For you young-uns, the big yellow book is what we used before we had Amazon and the All-music guide.




The Jazz Record Mart. Wow.

I spent a long time talking with the owner Bob Koester, who also founded Delmark Records (one of the best Chicago blues labels) at the Chicago Blues Fest one year at their tent. The guy was a legend in my eyes.

And there used to be a Rose Records on the corner of Ashland and Fletcher in Chicago, a block away from me when I lived at Roscoe and Ashland (a block away from Billy Corgan of Smashing Pumpkins fame)....I met Gary Rossington (who was DISGUSTINGLY drunk), Johnny Van Zant (who was real nice) and Ed King (who was just plain crazy) there when Skynyrd released The Last Rebel back in like '91 or so....

[Edited on 4/1/2009 by brofan]

 

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  posted on 3/31/2009 at 11:17 PM
Whenever I go to Pasadena, I have to visit Canterberry Records. The place has been there over 40 years. I've bought and found so many great CD's over the years plus the people that work there are a kick. If it ever closes, then I know mankind is doomed.

 

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  posted on 3/31/2009 at 11:43 PM
I buy records all the time....bought one yesterday.....2 today...& hitting the flea mkt's on a vinyl search tomorrow...I also buy cd's & dL's but vinyl is my favorite.

 

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  posted on 4/1/2009 at 12:21 AM
no I think you are an old fashioned music fa, I live for it but i am all digital and mobile with my music

 

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  posted on 4/1/2009 at 05:48 AM
While still a small number over all, vinyl sales last year doubled from the previous year. No other part of the music business can claim that.

I buy most of my vinyl online, but I really miss the record stores of old. The whole process of discovery and learning just can't be duplicated by anything online. Nothing beats taking an afternoon to shuffle through the bins and see what you find.

 

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  posted on 4/1/2009 at 07:28 AM
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Nothing beats taking an afternoon to shuffle through the bins and see what you find.


Especially when you reach the end of your genre and start flipping through the "various artists" and "miscellaneous" bins. Find stuff you didn't even know existed because there was no neat little slot to slide it into.

That's how I found this, for instance:



If the headliners impress you, what would you think about the sidemen: Otis Spann, Hubert Sumlin, Buddy Guy and Clifton James?


On Amazon, etc., you can find anything you want as long as you know what to look for. At the big old record stores, you'd just happen to stumble across treasures, like the one above.

I stumbled across one little series of albums that I'm still kicking myself for not buying - I had already spent my dough on what I originally went there to get - it was called something like "Black non-Blues Folk Music," and then had a span of years: 1910-1919, 1920-1929, etc. I wish I had grabbed those. I've since found CD's that cover the same material (purportedly), but I'm sorry for not picking those up at the time . . . I was just getting into Leadbelly at the time, and something in me said "you would definitely dig these," but I passed.

I also passed on a VERY old copy of this (original pressing?):



I'm still kicking myself over that one, too.

Ah well, it's not like I've run out . . .

 

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  posted on 4/1/2009 at 07:32 AM
yes we are

 

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  posted on 4/1/2009 at 07:34 AM
This is a sad topic that crosses my mind everyday. It's sad to see all these great record stores going out of business

 

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  posted on 4/1/2009 at 07:44 AM
About 40 years ago my friends and I would do Mystery albums. See an LP in the store that you knew nothing about, and buy it. We got Quicksilver's Happy Trails , Free's Tons of Sobs, and a lot of bad stuff. You can't shop spur of the moment on Amazon.

I miss the old record store too.

 

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  posted on 4/1/2009 at 07:49 AM
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About 40 years ago my friends and I would do Mystery albums. See an LP in the store that you knew nothing about, and buy it. We got Quicksilver's Happy Trails , Free's Tons of Sobs, and a lot of bad stuff. You can't shop spur of the moment on Amazon.

I miss the old record store too. [/quote]

I agree. 25% of my favorite recordings were purchase on whim at sight. 25% of my worst were purchased the same way. It's impossible to get a musical education of the hit/miss variety without the time to wander through the bins. The next generation is a bunch of "Stepford Sons" for the most part

 

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  posted on 4/1/2009 at 07:50 AM
Great post IP!!! You've described my love affair with browsing through music stores pretty well ... can spend hours just browsing through the bins - seeing what treasures await me there. I love hearing from a 'younger generation dude' who understands this type of passion, btw. Don't currently own an I-Pod ... I like to throw an album (or CD) on and take it all the way through ... not saying I might not someday try out the I-Pod thing, just not feeling the need now. I live in a fairly good sized city but the indies here have mostly been shut out by the big box places, which saddens me. Always look for places in my travels, though, to spend and hour (or 2) on a leisurely browse, though. (like down in the Village this past NYC trip... ) The breed won't die with me - I'm continuing down this road I chose some 40+ years ago...

[Edited on 4/1/2009 by lolasdeb]

 

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  posted on 4/1/2009 at 09:36 AM
Just another thing, that will be added to the list of by-gone days, and what future generations will miss out on.

I have VERY fond memories of spending hours at a time in music stores.

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  posted on 4/1/2009 at 09:41 AM
What a coincidence that you posted this thread last night. Yesterday, for the first time in over a year, I spent well over an hour at an old favorite record/cd/dvd store of mine- Rolling Stones Records at Harlem and Irving in Norridge, Il. I know a previous poster on this thread has spent a few hours or a thousand there as well. I picked up the latest NMAS disc for 9.99. Amazing prices on their “Super Buys” too. Warren Zevon Best Of for 4.99 for example. These are all new, not used. I do have an I-pod shuffle that I like to use when I run a few miles, however I have never downloaded any music from the I-tunes to that. I use my own collection for that. It’s free. I do download plenty of live shows through free sites like Dime-A-Dozen and burn them to disc though. I really don’t search for vinyl anymore. I haven’t even unpacked my turn table since I moved in late December. The times, they are a changin’.

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  posted on 4/1/2009 at 10:16 AM
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I spent a log time talking with the owner Bob Koester, who also founded Delmark Records (one of the best Chicago blues labels) at the Chicago Blues Fest one year at their tent. The guy was a legend in my eyes.


I believe I met him, but didn't chat much, as I spent most of my time with Robert Lockwood Jr. in that same tent!

And I've never been to the one on Harlem and Irving . . . just the downtown location way back when before it turned to "Rock Records" and then later started sucking. The last time I was there I went back to where the imports section used to be, but that section was now devoted to anime and medium-core porn videos.

 

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