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  posted on 3/24/2009 at 12:26 PM
I thought alot about Monday night's show was stellar. The King Curtis tribute, Ron Holloway, Bluesky jam, LES BRERS. And I understand that this band can invite whoever they want to jam, but John Bell's vocals are some of the worst I've ever heard. WTF was that guy doing up there?? I thought he was a major drag on the proceedings, and until Herring came out for Les Brers, I was almost pissed that JB got the spotlight with those 3 songs, when they could have easily replaced them with some amazing guitar interplay between Jimmy, Derek, and Warren on an ABB classic. Bell's vox were almost comically bad. My wife said she thought his voice sounded like the screeching of a dying squirrel on roadside that just got hit by a car. I know there's too much complaining on this board, but I just had to get this off my chest. I may get flamed for this post, but I can't see how anyone could take up for that vocal performance
 
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  posted on 3/24/2009 at 12:37 PM

It was BRUTAL.

I used to love WSP, but have completely lost interest in recent years, but hearing him last night made me want to run farther away.

he was horrifying on "cant find my way". thank god im seeing clapton/winwood in a few months to erase that version from my brain.

the whole first set was SO incredible last night, i thought john bell took all the air out of the show.


 

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  posted on 3/24/2009 at 12:52 PM
Liked Herring, but did not think Bell really added much. I love Can't Find My Way, but two versions of that now just does not fit. If it was a guest's signature song, fine, but to have a guest play it only because they can is disappointing. Winwood I'd understand. And It Stoned Me is a great song for Warren; it fits him so well, sort of like Stella Blue did for Garcia, so I was sorry Warren shared the vocals w/ Bell on that.


 

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  posted on 3/24/2009 at 01:45 PM
Call the Wah-mbulance boys.

 

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  posted on 3/24/2009 at 01:50 PM
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I thought alot about Monday night's show was stellar. The King Curtis tribute, Ron Holloway, Bluesky jam, LES BRERS. And I understand that this band can invite whoever they want to jam, but John Bell's vocals are some of the worst I've ever heard. WTF was that guy doing up there?? I thought he was a major drag on the proceedings, and until Herring came out for Les Brers, I was almost pissed that JB got the spotlight with those 3 songs, when they could have easily replaced them with some amazing guitar interplay between Jimmy, Derek, and Warren on an ABB classic. Bell's vox were almost comically bad. My wife said she thought his voice sounded like the screeching of a dying squirrel on roadside that just got hit by a car. I know there's too much complaining on this board, but I just had to get this off my chest. I may get flamed for this post, but I can't see how anyone could take up for that vocal performance


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  posted on 3/24/2009 at 02:26 PM
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I thought alot about Monday night's show was stellar. The King Curtis tribute, Ron Holloway, Bluesky jam, LES BRERS. And I understand that this band can invite whoever they want to jam, but John Bell's vocals are some of the worst I've ever heard. WTF was that guy doing up there?? I thought he was a major drag on the proceedings, and until Herring came out for Les Brers, I was almost pissed that JB got the spotlight with those 3 songs, when they could have easily replaced them with some amazing guitar interplay between Jimmy, Derek, and Warren on an ABB classic. Bell's vox were almost comically bad. My wife said she thought his voice sounded like the screeching of a dying squirrel on roadside that just got hit by a car. I know there's too much complaining on this board, but I just had to get this off my chest. I may get flamed for this post, but I can't see how anyone could take up for that vocal performance


I won't flame you but I respectfully disagree. I like JB's vocals very much but I suppose it is an acquired taste.

 

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  posted on 3/24/2009 at 02:32 PM
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I won't flame you but I respectfully disagree. I like JB's vocals very much but I suppose it is an acquired taste.


me too, and im one of the one's who doesnt care for susan. wierd

 

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  posted on 3/24/2009 at 02:49 PM
I myself used to be a huge Panic fan, especially back in the days when Mikey was still in the band. Now as I've gotten older, I've had to pick and choose more which shows I go to and the Brothers just take precedence over others. One of my favorite things about Panic though, is JB's voice, but if you don't care for it I don't have any problem with that. I do appreciate him and Jimmy stopping by though. JB came into a restaurant I used to work at, and I have to say I've never met a nicer guy(not that it has any bearing on musical ability)
 

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  posted on 3/24/2009 at 02:51 PM
I think widespread panic is perhaps the best live band playing today other than the allman brothers in this genre...i also think bell is terrific..clearly he has a real growl but i think it adds to the music and certainly is recognizable ....to each his or her own i guess but i loved the segment with the panic guys
 

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  posted on 3/24/2009 at 02:57 PM
I think he's used to playing those songs a little bit slower and over exerted his voice a bit. Thought it was fun though, I dug it.
 

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  posted on 3/24/2009 at 03:13 PM
I am a long time Panic fan...Skydog I got to disagree w/ you, JB hasn't always sounded like that, it has only been the last 3 to 4 years that he has tended to sing in more of a falsetto...it disappoints the heck out of me. I miss his old sound, as someone said here, his growl. He used to be one of my favorite singers but now he seems to favor trying to sound like Macy Gray and it is not for me. He was far from growling less night, that was a whimper at best. I hate to say that because I love Panic and JB, but it is just the way it was. Not his best performance.
 

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  posted on 3/24/2009 at 03:14 PM
He sounded great

 

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  posted on 3/24/2009 at 03:30 PM
He sounded like Axl Rose, but a little more polished. I caught Warren giving Gregg an eye roll when he started to sing.
 

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  posted on 3/24/2009 at 03:53 PM
Always liked the band, can't stand his voice. Last night was a new level. Can't find mhy way home was terrible and what a great night it was. Definetly a let down for me. JH made up for it huge with his smokin playin in Les Breres. My 2 cents

 

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I think widespread panic is perhaps the best live band playing today other than the allman brothers in this genre...i also think bell is terrific..clearly he has a real growl but i think it adds to the music and certainly is recognizable ....to each his or her own i guess but i loved the segment with the panic guys


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He sounded like Axl Rose, but a little more polished. I caught Warren giving Gregg an eye roll when he started to sing.


This I sincerely doubt.

 

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  posted on 3/24/2009 at 04:01 PM
I think JB is kind of like Bob Weir.

They're both good in their own bands but don't mesh well when sitting in with others.

 

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  posted on 3/24/2009 at 04:06 PM
I was at the show last night and I didn't know what to think. Th eonly time I really wasnt too sure i liked was on Can't Find My Way Home. Thats kinda for someone with a real powerful voice that can still sing softly but JB was screachin it out LIKE A BABY GIRAFFE GOING THROUGH A WOODCHIPPER! Kinda killed the song.
 

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I think JB is kind of like Bob Weir.

They're both good in their own bands but don't mesh well when sitting in with others.


I disagree mainly because I don't think Bob Weir is particularly good singing in his own band. I am listening to Can't Find My Way Home right now and JB sounds great to me.

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  posted on 3/24/2009 at 04:15 PM
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I think JB is kind of like Bob Weir.

They're both good in their own bands but don't mesh well when sitting in with others.


I disagree mainly because I don't think Bob Weir is particularly good singing in his own band. I am listening to Can't Find My Way Home right now and JB sounds great to me.

Doug


Like somebody said, it must be an acquired taste. I can remember when I first heard Bono sing. I thought it had to be some kind of a joke. But over the years I've grown to like a lot of his stuff.

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  posted on 3/24/2009 at 04:34 PM
Well ok, that ain't saying alot for his voice though.

You're telling me that if you threw on Space Wrangler his style of singing would be the same as what you heard last night? Not to mention just the sound of his voice? Heck he sounded different between Space Wrangler and Ain't Life Grand. Just as he, to me, sounds different from the Everyday/Ain't Life Grand/Till the Medicine period (the period I would consider his prime as a singer) to today, with a very noticeably change in the last 4 years as I described above.

 

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  posted on 3/24/2009 at 04:52 PM
I can see how JB would be a tough fit for lots of folks, very, shall we say, unqiue voice...I happen to be a widespread fan and like his voice in the context of WSP songs, but probably not a fit for many other bands (OT - Herring has restored WSP to my iPod playlist for really the first time since Mikey Hauser passed, so I'm very glad he joined them). That said, I'm not really a big fan of Guilded Splinters in general, but last night with JB singing lead happened to be my fave version I have heard ABB perform.

 

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  posted on 3/24/2009 at 05:49 PM
I will agree that he is doing more of that kind of high range singing than he used to in the 90's and with less gravel.

 

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  posted on 3/24/2009 at 05:57 PM
I know were not meant to knock any of the guests but i thought his singing (Its what puts me off WSP) was terrible

 

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  posted on 3/24/2009 at 05:58 PM
That's what I am talking about Dougrhon, he has gone from generally using the low range of his voice (the gravel and growl) and occasionally, successfully, mixing in the high range to pretty much staying in his high range, and every now and again using the low range (the end of Guilded last night, I also do realize that Can't Find My Way is generally sung high, hell Winwood almost sounded like a woman on it but alot of what JB does in concert w/ Panic sounds like this now). I wonder if it is by choice or if it is all his voice is capable of now? Clearly I prefer his old delivery.
 
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