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I need some advice. I am thinking about getting a dog for my family. I have never owned one before. I have the following criteria and would be interested in whether anyone can suggests some breeds:

1. Must be content to be alone for a number of hours every day.
2. Must be relatively non-shedding and easy to keep groomed.
3. Must be not too large as we live in a house but not a huge one in the city and have a decent but not huge yeard.
4. Must require no more than a medium amount of exercise.
5. As it goes without saying must be warm, friendly, love people and children.

I don't know if I left anything out. ANy advice is appreciated. So far I have zeroed in on a Boston Terrier as a possibility. I do not particularly care for toy breeds. Thanks all.

 

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Maybe a Presa Canario?

 

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Doug,

Looking at your criteria, you don't need a dog. Get you a cat, they're lot less maintance than a dog. Now the breed of cat, that's most like a dog (while still being a cat) is a Maine Coon (of course they're long haired breed). They're a pretty "laid back" breed of cat, if I didn't have my shedding, large, requires at least an hour of day of exercise, wooly coated 90 pound Siberian Husky (which btw, is warm, friendly, loves people and children, along with other dogs) then I would have a Maine Coon.

Bottom line if you don't really have the time and energy and commitment, DON"T GET A DOG.

Dogs in many ways are like "four legged" children. Seriously I wonder why you want a dog in the first place? Hate to say it, but from what little you said, I feel if it didn't work out the dog would end up in a pound, and probably end up being euthanized. Unless you're serious about wanting a dog, and are prepared to do what's necessary to be a responsible dog owner, then do a dog a favor, don't get one.



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  posted on 3/19/2009 at 05:56 PM
Just my $.02...

No dog really likes living hours on their own. Some really hate it, some seem fine with it, but all are pack animals - not loners. I learned that having two dogs was actually easier in some ways than just having one. Yes, there's a little more mess, but the company they give to each other often outweighs a little extra work on the owner's part. Often saves your possessions too.

If you want a dog that behaves well, and has a stable temperment, consider one 2-3 years old. Unless you're really experienced raising puppies, getting one is a crap shoot. Will they turn out well? Do you and your family know enough to ensure that? Those are big questions that you'll live with for years. In an older dog, a lot of these can be answered by spending an hour with them before you decide.

I learned my lesson about older dogs years ago. A woman I was dating had a friend who raised Springer Spaniels, always having 6-8 dogs at her house. She both showed some and bred, having occassional litters for sale. We were visiting once and she asked if we'd be interested in two of her dogs - a male champion and one of his offspring - because they were getting a little older and she wanted to make some room for new dogs. We took them, and they turned out to be the best dogs I've ever had. These dogs we unflappable: well mannered, took direction well, kept each other company, got along with everyone and everything. I've never had a better dog experience.

Many years later, after they were gone and I was considering another dog, I decided upon a breed and went hunting for breeders, specifically asking for an older dog. It took me about 5-6 months to find the right combination, but I finally did and got another winner.

So I'm sold on older dogs. Whether you want a specific breed or want to consider mixed breeds and rescue dogs, you can learn a lot more about what they will be like to live with from spending an hour together than you'll ever get from a puppy.

 

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The wife and I are thinking about buying an Otter Hound. Check these dogs out they look like Duane. We figured we'd call him Duane or Sky.

 

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Looking at your criteria, you don't need a dog. Get you a cat, they're lot less maintance than a dog. Now the breed of cat, that's most like a dog (while still being a cat) is a Maine Coon (of course they're long haired breed). They're a pretty "laid back" breed of cat, if I didn't have my shedding, large, requires at least an hour of day of exercise, wooly coated 90 pound Siberian Husky (which btw, is warm, friendly, loves people and children, along with other dogs) then I would have a Maine Coon.

Bottom line if you don't really have the time and energy and commitment, DON"T GET A DOG.

Dogs in many ways are like "four legged" children. Seriously I wonder why you want a dog in the first place? Hate to say it, but from what little you said, I feel if it didn't work out the dog would end up in a pound, and probably end up being euthanized. Unless you're serious about wanting a dog, and are prepared to do what's necessary to be a responsible dog owner, then do a dog a favor, don't get one.



[Edited on 3/20/2009 by sibwlkr]


I kind of echo what sib has stated...dogs are so much different than cats on the time they require for human interaction...it is so sad to see dogs that don't get it, and you've seen them, it is sad.

Oh well, I'm reminded of some comedian who said "the difference between dogs and cats is my dog...every time I leave the apartment he is totally SHOCKED and hurt that he is not going with me...meanwhile the cat, looks up from the corner and says 'hey don't let the door hit you in the ass' "

 

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My dog, a Newfoundland, doesn't fit any of your criterias except being great with kids. Some rate it the best for kids. She's big,165lbs, she sheds, dog hair is a condiment when you have a Newfi and she would rather be no where else than at your side. She is the best dog I've ever had !

Get whatever dog you connect with, give it love and affection and it will be returned to you 10 fold. All dogs require a certain amount of work but it's worth it for the unconditional love you get back.

The only real consideration in getting a smaller dog rather than a big one is when they get sick it's much more expensive medicine wise as most meds are given by wieght. Picking up poop is picking up poop just different size piles. Good luck

 

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I need some advice. I am thinking about getting a dog for my family. I have never owned one before. I have the following criteria and would be interested in whether anyone can suggests some breeds:

1. Must be content to be alone for a number of hours every day.
2. Must be relatively non-shedding and easy to keep groomed.
3. Must be not too large as we live in a house but not a huge one in the city and have a decent but not huge yeard.
4. Must require no more than a medium amount of exercise.
5. As it goes without saying must be warm, friendly, love people and children.

I don't know if I left anything out. ANy advice is appreciated. So far I have zeroed in on a Boston Terrier as a possibility. I do not particularly care for toy breeds. Thanks all.


Actually she does meet #'s 3,4 and 5
3. Although large Newfis make great apartment dogs
4. Newfis are pretty docile and only require moderate amounts of exercise and they find a nice cool spot to hang out when your not playing with them. Mine did zero damage as a pup.
5. Again , rated as one of the absolute best with kids and people. I've taken mine to hospitals as a companion dog . They loved her.

 

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  posted on 3/20/2009 at 12:09 AM
Thanks everyone. Obviously my concern is to NOT get a dog that would not be right for us. I see large dogs cooped up in Apartments all day and I think it is cruel. I know many dogs are unhappy being alone but there is no other option for us which is why that is a concern for me as well. Exercise is not an issue. We have a backyard and two kids who will love playing with the dog whenever they are home. I do not like cats at all. I would rather have no pet than a cat. That is just my personal feeling. I will research this intently and will not make any qucik decisions. I have considered the possibility of an adult already housebroken dog and I am glad to see it is a viable option. The more opinions the better. Thanks.

 

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Best dogs we've owned over the years, mutt or purebred, came from the animal shelter and needed a home & love. Way too mnay dogs , or cats for that matter ,are out there looking for a new start.

 

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Check out this questionaire on the IAMS site then go to your local animal shelter and rescue a dog.


http://www.iams.com/iams/breed-information.jsp

 

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My .02...I've had purebreds and mutts and some of the rescue mutts were the best.

Another thought, purebreds sometimes suffer from strange ailments that run those vet bills through the roof, whereas the mutts seem to be able to handle it all......of course this is a generality, your mileage may vary.

I am right now without a dog, first time in my life in a very long time...but due to my schedule I just can't commit the required time. There is no way I would raise a dog without being able to commit the "face time" ... despite anything you hear about anything to do with training a dog, it is all about repetition and routines. So if you don't have the time for that, best advice is to wait until you do have the the time.

 

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Doug, I agree with Jack. Best dogs I've had by far have been mutts or rescued from a shelter. I currently have a rescue mutt (part Dobie/Rotty/Shepard) that is tied for #1 as the best dog I ever owned.

Went to the shelter with my son to see how the dogs interacted with him (and vice versa), spent time with each dog that we were considering and came close to leaving without any dog because none of them seemed to 'connect'. When I told the shelter manager that we'd decided against getting a dog that day, she asked us to wait so she could bring out one more dog.

I'd told her in the beginning that I did not want a Dobie, Rotty or Pit Bull because I didn't trust their temperment around kids or strangers. When she brought out this new dog (I never actually said I didn't want a Dobie/Rotty mix ) there was an instant connection. He loved my son, played with him right away, licked his face, bounced around and basically said 'please take me home!' So we did!

He's been a great companion, loyal watchdog and loads of fun. He'll steal your sandwich if you're not looking but other than that he's been a gem. We're very happy to have him as part of our family and he feels the same. He stays home alone with no problems and is over excited each and every time we walk in the door. (He also came housebroken and obedience trained - an extra bonus of some shelter dogs).

I guess you can't just go by breed, you have to go by individual dog and how they fit in with your family. Please consider visiting a shelter or two and find the one that wants to be part of your clan. There's sure to be one there that wants you guys as much as you want him.

 

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Here are my two hounds. Trucks and Harvey. They make a pretty good team. Trucks kind of tip toes around water where as, Harvey will submerge his head and grab stuff on the bottom.

I thing I strongly advise is getting a implant for them in case they get lost. Most agencies scan dogs now.

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Please consider going to the humane society animal shelter in your city to adopt a dog that is a bit older. So many pets are abandoned at 7+ years for no reason. My guess is that a shelter will have a dog that is comfortable with your requirements but just needs a loving home.

I have 4 pets. 2 dogs and 2 cats, all are rescues.

By the way, mine are Border Collie mixes. They are fantastic dogs but are not what you are looking for. They like to chase cows, sheep, horses, bunnies, lizards, and pretty much anything that moves. They bark at the wind sometimes.

 

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I need some advice. I am thinking about getting a dog for my family. I have never owned one before. I have the following criteria and would be interested in whether anyone can suggests some breeds:

1. Must be content to be alone for a number of hours every day.
2. Must be relatively non-shedding and easy to keep groomed.
3. Must be not too large as we live in a house but not a huge one in the city and have a decent but not huge yeard.
4. Must require no more than a medium amount of exercise.
5. As it goes without saying must be warm, friendly, love people and children.

I don't know if I left anything out. ANy advice is appreciated. So far I have zeroed in on a Boston Terrier as a possibility. I do not particularly care for toy breeds. Thanks all.


OMG.......Boston Terriers require a ton of exercise and once they start it is hard to stop them. This may not be your best choice. Maybe a miniature poodle would be good. They do not shed.

 

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Sounds like an adult dog would be a good choice. You know what kind of disposition the beast will have before you bring it home... It will definitely be lower maintenance since it's not a crazed puppy, and you should have no trouble finding a seriously warm, friendly, child-loving (sounds creepy) older dog.

If you do make the move, I highly recommend a trip out to North Shore Animal League. A great place with great animals that should be able to find the right animal for you.


Funny you should say that. I have a friend who works for the NSAL and that's exactly where I planned to look. I actually plan and prefer a mixed breed but I guess I didn't give that impression. Still, although you may not know exactly what you are getting, I figure that you can get a sense from the dominant features of the dog what breed it is most like. I am considering an already house broken young dog, not necessarily freshly weaned for all the reasons stated. While I think ti is noble to rescue older dogs, I don;t think that is for me as a first time dog owner. I would consider an adult dog, however. I will take plenty of time don't worry. This will not happen until September at the earliest. And the dog will get plenty of exercise. The only real concern is that we all leave the house during the week from around 8 until around 3. I would not want a dog that is unnusually attached to others and can't handle alone time. Thanks everyone. This is why this website is so great.

 

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Any dog will require walking twice a day. 30 minutes or more each time.

If not they will get bored. and destructive.

They need to exercise their minds, walking , sniffing, marking does that for them.


Maine coon cats are not good pets in my opinion, they are breed as outdoor cats. and can be quite fercious.
My brother in law wanted one to catch the chipmunks digging up his septic, but my sister wouldn't have
a cat that ferocious around my niece.

I have always had dogs but because of my arthritis I can't walk one anymore. So I have a turbo/calico mix cat from a shelter.
She's very sweet and good company.

Probably the most low maintenance dog is a greyhound. They are used to laying around in cages for most of the time
except for the few minutes of racing and training. Mostly they like to lie around. Still need some mental stimulation. NOt as as
other breeds. Check with the racing greyhound rescue. Greyhounds that don't win get put down unless rescued.

Finding places for them to run can be tough. They can reach 45 mph in a few strides and are gone if you are not careful.
A old girlfriend had one and we would take him to a ballfield that was totally fenced in and let him run with my mutts.

good luck.









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Whatever we get will have plenty of opportunity for exercise both on walks and hanging out in our long yard where it will be small enough that it will be able to run and there are enough interesting things (such as sticks and scents) to keep it interested. I am sure my kids will play with it all the time.

 

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Our last family pet, a cat named Newt passed 6 months ago. 1st time since 1971 that there isn't a dog, cat, or dogs and cats in the house. It just isn't the same. I am contemplating getting either another cat or a small breed dog after Mountain Jam. I prefer larger breeds myself but our living situation now favors a smaller breed.

If I go dog I'm thinking Daschund. My friend and his wife have had a long haired Daschund named Charlie for about five years. I have been able to watch Charlie grow and I babysit him whenever they go out of town. He is a joy. Well behaved, as friendly as can be and playful and loving as hell. He comes right into my house and acts like it is his house.

He was also housebroken within a week of when they brought him home. He pees and cr@ps right on those wee wee pads and all you have to do is throw them out and put out a new one. Having a dog that will go to the bathroom on wee wee pads like that is a big positive if the dog will be home alone for a few hours a day.

 

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Doug,

I see that if you get a dog you'll be a "first time owner". You do need to realize that in all likelyhood you'll be the one primarily responsible for the dog. IWO, you have to become the "dog's master" and assume responsibility of "pack leader" as that what your dog will expect out of you. In effect, you become the "dog's world", and they will look up to you as to what you expect. It is a big responsibility.

Let me make a suggestion to you before you get a dog, do some volunteer work for a rescue group, and learn everything you can about those dogs, and their wants and needs before bringing a dog into your home. Remember every dog, just like people, has it's own unique personality, and you must understand that individuality.

Dogs will give you more unconditional love than you can ever imagine, but at the same time they do require a lot of time and effort and training and love and understanding. Make sure you're fully up to that responsibility before getting a dog, whether it's a full bred or mixed, from breeder or a shelter.

 

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I need some advice. I am thinking about getting a dog for my family. I have never owned one before. I have the following criteria and would be interested in whether anyone can suggests some breeds:

1. Must be content to be alone for a number of hours every day.
2. Must be relatively non-shedding and easy to keep groomed.
3. Must be not too large as we live in a house but not a huge one in the city and have a decent but not huge yeard.
4. Must require no more than a medium amount of exercise.
5. As it goes without saying must be warm, friendly, love people and children.

I don't know if I left anything out. ANy advice is appreciated. So far I have zeroed in on a Boston Terrier as a possibility. I do not particularly care for toy breeds. Thanks all.


Since you asked for suggestions on breeds, I'd like to offer this one up. The English Springer Spaniel. Great dogs!! I've had two so far and would gladly get another one. A Springer would fit into your five criteria pretty well, MOST ESPECIALLY#5! Number four might be a concern, because they need a lot of outside exercise. Inside, they tend to be pretty lazy. They are very smart and acclimate well to family life. Good luck in your search!

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/englishspringerspaniel.htm

 

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The wife and I are thinking about buying an Otter Hound. Check these dogs out they look like Duane. We figured we'd call him Duane or Sky.

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I am on my 3rd airedale terrier which was bred by mixing terrier with the otter hound. My airedale have the same color, but shorter, wire hair. The original terrier that many derived from (common black and tan) didn't like water so the otter hound was mixed in.

 

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  posted on 3/20/2009 at 06:50 PM
Beautiful mutts there rottinpeach, love the names! Whatever you do Doug, dogs bring so much love to a home that what receive from them always outweighs the small stuff.
 
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