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  posted on 3/18/2009 at 10:53 AM
at what point do the guests begin to detract from the overall performance and experience?LIke everyone else the thought of Eric Clapton or other legendary guests is truly exciting and many guests styles work well with the Allman Brothers and enhance the shows..I enjoy the horn sections etc...that said,I think we are getting to the point where some of the guests in my opinion are slowing down the shows and taking away from the overall performance....it hit me last night when cheryl crowe came out to sing 3 songs....now she is an attractive lady and a fine performer but in my view she didnt add anything to the show and to some extent detracted from it for me.....i would never go see crowe on her own and i do not think her style meshes with the Allman Brothers all that well....again,this is one mans opinion and I truly look forward to eric clapton and other legends....but i think the need to have guests just to have them seems unnecessary to me
 
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  posted on 3/18/2009 at 11:00 AM
I cannot go to the Beacon and I do not have Moogis. All of the guests have sounded really cool to me.

There will hopefully be several opportunities to see the band this spring and summer in my part of the country, and I'm pretty sure that there won't be any guests on those shows. From my point of view, doesn't matter either way.

However, the amount of guests so far and the star power involved are a gigantic testament to the ABB's relevance and importance, even here in 2009, 40 years later. You could name 50 other bands that are hopeless nostalgia acts repeating the same greatest hits at various casinos...the ABB is certainly not one of those.

 

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  posted on 3/18/2009 at 11:04 AM
I think the guests have been great and have not detracted from the Brothers. I've been digging each show via Moogis and it looks to me like the guys are having a real good time, also. I found the Monday show with Hammond/Bramlett ladies/Susan especially touching - Gregg seemed to be very into having those old friends up on stage playing with them.

 

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  posted on 3/18/2009 at 02:33 PM
To me, most of the guests detract from the show, as opposed to adding. Sheryl Crow is a great example. I just would prefer to hear Gregg, or even Warren, sing instead. I'm really looking forward to Clapton Friday (fingers crossed that rumors are true) but it doesn't add to the show to have someone playing that I wouldn't otherwise be interested in. There's a reason why I don't have any Boz Scaggs CDs you know?

My favorite band is the ABB. My favorite singer is Gregg. With a limited tour last year, and rumors that this could be the beginning of the end for the band, I want as much of them, solo, as I can get.

 

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  posted on 3/18/2009 at 02:39 PM
Having guests onstage shakes up the setlist, adds more variety and allows the ABB
to go down musical roads they may not otherwise experience. If anyone wants to
see 'em without guests, there's always the summer tour. That's when you can go and
hear them play Midnight Rider or Whipping Post for the 15 millionth time.

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  posted on 3/18/2009 at 03:00 PM
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at what point do the guests begin to detract from the overall performance and experience?LIke everyone else the thought of Eric Clapton or other legendary guests is truly exciting and many guests styles work well with the Allman Brothers and enhance the shows..I enjoy the horn sections etc...that said,I think we are getting to the point where some of the guests in my opinion are slowing down the shows and taking away from the overall performance....it hit me last night when cheryl crowe came out to sing 3 songs....now she is an attractive lady and a fine performer but in my view she didnt add anything to the show and to some extent detracted from it for me.....i would never go see crowe on her own and i do not think her style meshes with the Allman Brothers all that well....again,this is one mans opinion and I truly look forward to eric clapton and other legends....but i think the need to have guests just to have them seems unnecessary to me


In this instance , you speak for me . It's almost as if the Allman Brothers Band should be in small letters on the Beacon marqee with all of the other names preceding them . I've never bought a ticket to see ANY of the guests in concert .

 

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  posted on 3/18/2009 at 03:08 PM
I think the guests should be paying tribute to the ABB. At times, it seems as if they are a backing band. The setlists could use a few more ABB tunes. But I am just being picky. Just don't think every guest needs to be center stage for 3-4 tunes.

 

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  posted on 3/18/2009 at 03:41 PM
Seems like when Dickey was in the band, guests were used less frequently. Every Beacon show I went to with Dickey, it was only the core group of seven musicians.

 

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  posted on 3/18/2009 at 03:42 PM
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Seems like when Dickey was in the band, guests were used less frequently. Every Beacon show I went to with Dickey, it was only the core group of seven musicians.


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  posted on 3/18/2009 at 04:28 PM
I happen to be one who likes to see the band stretch out and challenge themselves and play new music...different styles...jazz,blues etc....that said,a lot of the guests are not able to really play with the allman musicians and many times they dont know the music etc......i think guests should be special...the true legends,clapton etc......the idea of having guests just to say we had a guest seems superfluous to me...again,i love the shows..i will see several this year as always..i am not complaining so much as adding my thoughts......i guess cheryl crowe just seemed so out of place to me last night...perhaps it is just me?
 

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  posted on 3/18/2009 at 05:00 PM
With talk of a DVD it makes a certain amount of sense to have plenty of personality selling points, but have to wonder about how Duane might view some appearances: Bruce Willis and Sheryl Crow among others...make no mistake this is about ABB history but count how many of the guests really enhance the legacy...
 

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  posted on 3/18/2009 at 05:20 PM
there are certain people I love to see play with the band...jimmy herring comes to mind...luther dickenson...others who are just flat out great players who raise everybody's game....eric clapton i miagine is going to bring the roof down and i am really pissed off i am going to be away for those shows....but bruce willis and cheryl crowe?
 

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  posted on 3/18/2009 at 05:25 PM
I think the current run is just gettin' started. Watch out....

Imho, the only guest that detracted from a show was Johnny Winter.

The perfect guest musician doesn't take him/herself too seriously.... they just play, usually with a big smile on their face.

 

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  posted on 3/18/2009 at 06:25 PM
so far this has been a strange run from my perspective...lots of guests and a very limited band setlist thus far...they have really only played a small number of their own songs..i wouldl ike to see them play a bunch more of the old stuff and mix in new covers etc.....some of the songs have already been played 3-4 times during the 5 shows thus far...i like them to mix it up more
 

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  posted on 3/18/2009 at 06:36 PM
Since I can't make it to the Beacon this year, I'd be happy with ANY guest, because it would mean that I was in NYC.

Reminds me of all the bitching a couple of years ago during the summer tour. Can't remember the specifics, but the West Coasters reminded us that we were lucky to have ANY shows. The ABB hadn't played out there in a couple of years at least.

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  posted on 3/18/2009 at 06:47 PM
Post this thread the first year anniversary of the FINAL Beacon show and we'll see how it sounds.

Whatever the BAND wants to do is fine with me, I'll listen to it.

 

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  posted on 3/18/2009 at 07:09 PM
I don't know, I thought the Beacon run was about the guests. At least the last few years. I will say that while the playing has been out of this world the setlists have been pretty limited.

Two years ago at Harborlights, the last time I saw back to back shows, there was only one repeat, "Dreams." And I didn't really consider it a repeat because one was a Warren & the other was a Derek...

I find it interesting that there hasn't been more variety. After all, trying to sell Moogis, not just for this run but for the future, one would think they would mix it up more.

I don't care what they play, it's all good to me but there are certainly fans out there who are turned off by the sameness of the sets. Might think twice about subscribing the next time around.

Just my 2 cents...

 

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  posted on 3/18/2009 at 07:09 PM
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Seems like when Dickey was in the band, guests were used less frequently. Every Beacon show I went to with Dickey, it was only the core group of seven musicians.


It was also 2 or 3 sets rotated song for song every night

 

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  posted on 3/18/2009 at 07:11 PM
With Moogis I am seeing all the shows and evey night the Allman Brothers still play at least half the show by themselves. So probably at least 90 minutes each night of the band. I think they are loving all the guests and all in all, this epic run will only give them more credit. I love this run.

 

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  posted on 3/18/2009 at 07:14 PM
I tend to agree to a point. I guess if your into the guest that night you dont mind. If you dont know who it is or dont like the guest, I guess its not so good. To me the guests are cool but somtimes it means less ABB tunes in the set.

At the end of the day I am just glad I am still seeing them in 2009 See everyuone Saturday

 
 


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