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  posted on 3/15/2009 at 12:42 PM
Ok, I've only seen it once on Moogis and maybe not the whole thing, but it seemed to me like Stanley Clarke just charged out, sprayed his considerable chops all over the place, did not plug into anyone or anything going on musically on stage, and then left.

Maybe I need to go back and watch it again. What I saw of Randy Brecker was fantastic.

 
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  posted on 3/15/2009 at 12:57 PM
He was on stage with Oteil, Lenny White, Marc and Butch. I am not sure what you mean. He basically was locked into the rhythm groove of the two drummers and the extra bassist. By the time the rest of the ABB came out, he was gone. Oteil then took over adding some oputstanding base lines and scatting then the rest of the ABB come out. I think the intent was to have Stanley lock onto the groove of the rhythm section which he did.

 

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  posted on 3/15/2009 at 01:27 PM
I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I really didn't think Stanley Clarke added anything to the show. To me he was just a prop. He didn't even play on one song with the band. Sure he is skilled but for me it didn't fit into the show. Oteil looked almost intimidated until Clarke left the stage. Once Clarke left Oteil tore it up IMO. I thought the rest of the guests were off the charts good, especially Brecker!!!

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  posted on 3/15/2009 at 01:37 PM
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I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I really didn't think Stanley Clarke added anything to the show. To me he was just a prop. He didn't even play on one song with the band. Sure he is skilled but for me it didn't fit into the show. Oteil looked almost intimidated until Clarke left the stage. Once Clarke left Oteil tore it up IMO. I thought the rest of the guests were off the charts good!!!


I guess on the surface it may of looked that way but I would have to differ a bit with you Pete my friend. Stanley was pretty amazing for the short time he was on stage and had the crowd unbelievably pumped up last night. One small negative about Moogis is that you simply can not feel the energy and enthusiasm of the crowd. We were bopping BIG time when Stanley Clarke was Jammimg with Butch, Lenny, Marc and Oteil. The Bass/drum Jam was almost a song by itself. It had a very primal and tribalistic feel to it and got everyone really stomping. He arrived late supposedly because he had a gig or something, but he added plenty to his brief time on stage. He brought his own kind of energy and everyone on stage and off was in awe of his talents. I have to say he was quite impressive. Not only that, but Randy Brecker, Lenny and Adam Nussbaum had already added so much to the show that an abbreviated Stanley Clarke appearance was not really a detraction at all. Could he have added more? Sure, I guess, but I simply could not have asked for more than what we got last night. I am telling you as sure as I am breathing last night was about as perfect a show as I have ever witnessed...it was flawless. Again, Moogis is wonderful and a blessing to those that can't go to the show, but its 100 times greater to be there soaking it all in ...as we all know. Everyone who participated in last nights show - Band and Crowd - got a perfect score IMO..




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  posted on 3/15/2009 at 01:40 PM
Ive seen stanley clarke before. he had a bass player in his band, and his "piccolo bass" sounds like guitar to me. playing really fast runs to a boring vamp, it just seemed like musical wanking to me.
 

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  posted on 3/15/2009 at 02:42 PM
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I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I really didn't think Stanley Clarke added anything to the show. To me he was just a prop. He didn't even play on one song with the band. Sure he is skilled but for me it didn't fit into the show. Oteil looked almost intimidated until Clarke left the stage. Once Clarke left Oteil tore it up IMO. I thought the rest of the guests were off the charts good!!!


Hate to disagree with you Pete my friend, but Stanley was pretty amazing and had the crowd unbelievably pumped up last night. One small negative about Moogis is that you simply can not feel the energy and enthusiasm of the crowd. We were bopping BIG time when Stanley Clarke was Jammimg with Butch, Lenny, Marc and Oteil. The Bass/drum Jam was almost a song by itself. It had a very primal and tribalistic feel to it and got everyone really stomping. He arrived late supposedly because he had a gig or something, but he added plenty to his brief time on stage. He brought his own kind of energy and everyone on stage and off was in awe of his talents. I have to say he was quite impressive. Not only that, but Randy Brecker, Lenny and Adam Nussbaum had already added so much to the show that an abbreviated Stanley Clarke appearance was not really a detraction at all. Could he have added more? Sure, I guess, but I simply could not have asked for more than what we got last night. I am telling you as sure as I am breathing last night was about as perfect a show as I have ever witnessed...it was flawless. Again, Moogis is wonderful and a blessing to those that can't go to the show, but its 100 times greater to be there soaking it all in ...as we all know. Everyone who participated in last nights show - Band and Crowd - got a perfect score IMO..




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I'm glad you loved it Eddie and in no way am I saying it was a bad show. I thought it was an outstanding show as were the two previous nights. I just didn't think SC's appearance was necessary. I thought the other guests were amazing, especially Brecker and also loved Randolph. He always adds energy.

I disagree with you about not feeling the crowd energy on Moogis. Unlike the Beacon DVD the ABB put out a few years back, Moogis really does capture the feeling of the crowd. I know from the very first night on I have felt like I am there. I guess being so familiar with the vibe and atmosphere of the Beacon makes me feel this way. This is what makes Moogis so special IMO.

I may be a nut, but when they turn down the house lights so do I. I get so immersed in the shows that I can't post on the forums during the shows. This Moogis thing is just amazing IMO. Being able to watch each unique show night after night is just unbelievable. I need this night off to recuperate.

 

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  posted on 3/15/2009 at 02:47 PM
me = Loved It!
 

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  posted on 3/15/2009 at 04:34 PM
I thought he was incredible, would have loved to have seen more of him last night. Musical wanking?? Not sure what that means, but if that's wanking, then LET'S WANK!! The show really was flawless, except I think Gregg screwed up Revival.

 

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  posted on 3/15/2009 at 04:41 PM
I'm with EddieP on this one. Stanley Clark may not have been jammin' with the whole band, but he brought the place to its feet with energy. Butch, Oteil, and James Taylor (offstage) were smiling with delight at his brief but powerful moments on stage. I would agree that he didn't sync with the band in general, but he did keep the show moving along.

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  posted on 3/15/2009 at 04:44 PM
I agree with 'didn't add much' to the show. He looked like he was on his own with no regard to what everyone else was playing, and they certainly didn't know where he was headed.

Cool to see the guy regardless though.

 

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  posted on 3/15/2009 at 04:53 PM
I saw 4 people in my row and three people in the row in front of me leave during his bass stuff. I would rather have seen him play a song with the whole band.
 

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  posted on 3/15/2009 at 05:09 PM
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I thought he was incredible, would have loved to have seen more of him last night. Musical wanking?? Not sure what that means, but if that's wanking, then LET'S WANK!! The show really was flawless, except I think Gregg screwed up Revival.
I was talking about seeing clarke solo in 1984, I didnt see last nights show.

 

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  posted on 3/15/2009 at 05:12 PM
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I saw 4 people in my row and three people in the row in front of me leave during his bass stuff. I would rather have seen him play a song with the whole band.


Leave? Seriously? Wow. Maybe they had a place to catch.

 

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  posted on 3/15/2009 at 06:55 PM
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I saw 4 people in my row and three people in the row in front of me leave during his bass stuff. I would rather have seen him play a song with the whole band.


Oh well...they missed out

I agree it would've been nice to see him stay on for the Liz Reed Reprise but it was still thoroughly enjoyable!

 

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  posted on 3/15/2009 at 07:09 PM
The people that left hopefully had a better reason to leave like their house was on fire. If they left because S Clarke was free-styling perhaps they should give there tickets away to a real fan. Oh yeah Pete, I went Thursday and watched all of the other shows live on Moogis. As awesome as Moogis is, it aint close to being on the floor live. Cant wait till next Thursday.

 

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  posted on 3/15/2009 at 07:21 PM
Stanley created sweet music last night and it worked in real well with the overall performance the band gave. I've seen many beacon shows in my time, but last nights will not be easily forgotten! Thank you Greg and company for doing a great tribute to Duane!
 

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Leave? Seriously? Wow. Maybe they had a place to catch.



I agree. Ridiculous. There is no way in hell I'm going to get up and leave my seat with Stanley Clark coming onstage. Huh?? Some of the comments this week about some of the guest musicians has had me scratching my head at times. I don't know whether it is a lack of knowledge, lack of respect, a matter of age or the recurring theme of the members of the ABB listening to and appreciating music different than what a section of the fandoms listen to and appreciate, a divide that can be huge. The whole point of the Beacon run, especially this year, is for the band to bring in some guests and have some fun and show some respect. B*tching about Boz playing four songs?? Huh??

 

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  posted on 3/15/2009 at 08:18 PM
I have to say I was disappointed w/ Stanley. Not for what he did, but what he did not do. Seemed he was trying too hard to prove he is a great bassist. We know that; I sat right in front of him for 2+ hrs w/ RTF in August, so I know what he is capable of. Wish he could have added his talents to a couple more songs. But there may have been rehearsal or scheduling problems, so I'm happy he at least made a brief appearance.



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  posted on 3/15/2009 at 08:24 PM
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  posted on 3/15/2009 at 08:54 PM
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BADASS

Most definitely a BADASS!

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Wish he could have added his talents to a couple more songs. But there may have been rehearsal or scheduling problems, so I'm happy he at least made a brief appearance.



Again....Stanley arrived late - it was well after 11:00 - he had a gig or an engagement. Nobody promised he would be there for a whole show. There was NO time for him to play anything else. He sounded great for the time he was there and everyone was thrilled! I'm not sure what else to say accept "it is what it is" or was...

 

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Wish he could have added his talents to a couple more songs. But there may have been rehearsal or scheduling problems, so I'm happy he at least made a brief appearance.



Again....Stanley arrived late - it was well after 11:00 - he had a gig or an engagement. Nobody promised he would be there for a whole show. There was NO time for him to play anything else. He sounded great for the time he was there and everyone was thrilled! I'm not sure what else to say accept "it is what it is" or was...


I know, I know, but when Bruce Willis gets two songs and Stanley one, I can't help but be disappointed. Everything can be explained away by "it is what it is," thus obviating discussion forums.

 

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  posted on 3/15/2009 at 09:21 PM
I'd have to side with those who were there and gave him a thumbs up.

From a Moogis point of view, I have to admit that it didn't come across real strong. But I instantly dismissed that because a) I know how great he is live, and b) Moogis does a lousy job with lower frequencies.

I have to believe that Stanley guesting, short as it was, will be a long-held memory for those lucky enough to have been there.

 

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  posted on 3/16/2009 at 01:17 AM
I dunno. From the video it looked like perhaps he wasn't particularly familiar with the ABB and thought he'd show up and show the "rock 'n rollers" what a REAL bass solo was all about. And then when he left the stage, Oteil just handed his ass to him and upped it by a factor of 10 or 20. Butch alluded in one of his interviews, in response to some invites out to some special guests, how some jazz guys were saying how they could handle "the tough parts" or something like that, as if they clearly weren't grasping the talents of Warren, Derek and Oteil. In retrospect, Butch's reference was probably to the guests on In A Silent Way, but Stanley Clarke may've had a similar jazz-snob attitude thinking the ABB were a bunch of lowly rock 'n rollers that couldn't handle much more than a pentatonic scale over a I-IV-V progression.

 

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  posted on 3/16/2009 at 03:04 AM
Last night was my favorite ABB show for many reasons.First time I ever heard Stanley and I found it thrilling! What he played was creative and exciting. The energy was amazing.
One of the things I love about the ABB bringing in all sorts of guests during Beacon runs is that it exposes me to artists I've heard of but never heard.Thanks ABB!

 

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  posted on 3/16/2009 at 07:40 AM
INHO -- Stanley's appearance was a nice treat....yes, it left me wanting more but that's not a bad thing Love his music.... Do yourself a favor and check out some of his recent stuff. B A D A S S.... B A S S ....M O N S T E R !!!!!!

 

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