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  posted on 3/11/2009 at 03:31 PM
Although I liked last night's show warts and all, if I'm gonna be honest I thought opening night was much better. I loved much of Warren and Derek's guitar work last night, especially on the killer instrumentals 'Hot Lanta' and 'Les Brers' which were the highlights for me. I thought the band was a little sloppy at times last night though. Mind you these are nit picks. I still thought the show was very good. I also thought the opening night guests brought more to the table. Just my honest opinion.

Tomorrow I get my live experience!!!! WoooooHoooooo!!!!

 

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  posted on 3/11/2009 at 03:37 PM
THEY WERE SMOKIN AND AS FAR AS MISCUES GO THATS WHY ITS ROCK AND ROLL YA GO WITH THE FLOW CAUSE I AM SURE WITH ALL THE GUEST THEY WILL BE PLAYIN WITH THERE WILL BE MORE ITS ALL GOOD PEOPLE, MARCH MADNESS IS IN THE AIR
 

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  posted on 3/11/2009 at 03:41 PM
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Hopefully Mitzi didn't see Gregg's low cut shirt.....


That was ugly.


I wasn't lookin' at his shirt.

 

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  posted on 3/11/2009 at 04:34 PM
I went to Robert Randolph on Monday and watched the opening night of the ABB on Moogis the following day. I was all fired up on Tuesday to catch the show live and was a bit dissappointed. Derek and Warren carried the night, but it was not Beacon material. Johnny is just getting old and it was kind for the ABB to ask him to sit in. Los Lobos was good, but not great. They were somewhat handcuffed and did not contribute in a significant way. Gregg just blew it a few times and threw thoses tunes off a bit. The ABB are always good, I was just surprised at the miscues. Derek is on top of his game and practically carries the band at times. Maybe there is too much hype and the expecatations are just impossible to meet. I know the shows will continue to get better, as will the guest slots.

 

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  posted on 3/11/2009 at 04:36 PM
Last night our heroes showed us that they are indeed human. I had almost forgotten.
 

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  posted on 3/11/2009 at 04:39 PM
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Derek is on top of his game and practically carries the band at times.


What??? I disagree with pretty much everything in your post.

 

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  posted on 3/11/2009 at 04:44 PM
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Derek is on top of his game and practically carries the band at times.


What??? I disagree with pretty much everything in your post.


i disagree with your disagreement of that

 

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  posted on 3/11/2009 at 04:47 PM
"In this contract the party of the first part shall be known as the party of the first part"
Groucho Marx

Seriously, however, last night was one of the few times I saw Derek as being in the background. Nothing shattering

BUT imagine that man's life. This is like Derek Jeter getting to play baseball with Willie Mays, Babe Ruth, Henry Aaron on separate days running. Unreal. Hopefully Mickey (Dickey) Mantle will step up to the plate on 3/26. Not looking promising, however, based on comments on his website from people who spoke to his roadies

 

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  posted on 3/11/2009 at 04:51 PM
For years, I was known as "The Picky Deadhead", but my pickiness has nothing on some of you folks!

 

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  posted on 3/11/2009 at 04:57 PM
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Derek is on top of his game and practically carries the band at times.


What??? I disagree with pretty much everything in your post.


i disagree with your disagreement of that
Hi Linnie

 

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  posted on 3/11/2009 at 05:04 PM
I agree and disagree...I was at both shows thus far and although it is true that gregg was sloppy in many cases with his vocals last night..the show had a lot of energy and tight jams...sadly it does seem to me that gregg is no longer consistent in terms of his vocals and is the weak link but that said I still love listening to him and still think the boys are the best live band in the world
 

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  posted on 3/11/2009 at 05:20 PM
Jeez, c'mon now folks! A live show without mistakes is just not natural! I thought they did an excellent job and am looking forward to the rest of the shows. Gregg was great on vocals. The man has been through a lot in his lifetime. I'm just thankful that most of the surviving members are still jamming together for us fans to come out and enjoy this wonderful music and have a good time. If Dickey accepts the offer to jam, it will be the icing on the cake! Bring it on!

 

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  posted on 3/11/2009 at 05:40 PM
I liked the show and the guests and the miscues happen. Been playin for years and it is what it is. As long as there is recovery - move on. Johnny was good but as mentioned had the ABB as his backup band - the Los Lobos guys were good but a little more rehersed would have been good. All in all, any ABB show regardless is a good show because ya never know how many are left!!! Enjoy the sounds!!

 

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  posted on 3/11/2009 at 05:42 PM
HEY LINNIE!!! I hope to see you at Wanee.

 

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  posted on 3/11/2009 at 05:43 PM
i really enjoyed the show throughout. Some of y'all might wanted a Whippin' Post night, where you'd hear songs like that or Every Hungry Woman or Leave My Blues at home. There will be those nights but this was not that. It was more melodic and lyrical, something you want to listen to when you just want to feel good. Each night is different. If Dickey had been there, he would have played something like Seven Turns as opposed to Nobody Knows and songs like that. I really liked what they all did, and I did not find anything wrong with Gregg's vocals. He may have been a little fatigued after the intermission, but he did fine, and yes we all noticed where he did not sing the verses or the studio versions of those two songs, but so what? It's like this time in You DOn't Love Me he said "merry way" rather than "merrily way" which he has done over most of the years he's been singing it, or when he sang Come and Go Blues and a few times he sung "honey" rather than the trademark growl of "woman you got those come and go blues". Isn't he allowed to express himself the way he feels, if he feels more mellow he should have artistic license to do that stuff. The defense rests.

 

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  posted on 3/11/2009 at 05:55 PM
Last night was my first Beacon concert ever and I definitely enjoyed it. Having watched Moogis on Monday, I would probably agree that Monday's concert was a bit better (Little Martha opener, Stormy Monday, Taj, Levon, etc) but Tuesday was a solid concert. Of course, I just mentioned that this was my first Beacon show so I have nothing really to compare it to, but that's just my $0.02. My last ABB concert at Great Woods over the summer left me wanting a lot more, since it was a completely joint bill with Ratdog, and the ABB set was way too short in my opinion.

Last night, however, was a great setlist and a lot of memorable moments - especially on Les Brers and Wasted Words. I had a huge smile on my face the entire night and felt very satisfied when I walked out of the Beacon around 11:30. One complaint, which I knew would happen as soon as Johnny Winter was introduced, was that the man does not know how to share a solo. Neither Derek nor Warren were able to take a turn during either Red House or Highway 61. Still, I thought Winter was great on both and I can't wait to tune into Moogis for the rest of the run having finally seen what it's all about!

 

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  posted on 3/11/2009 at 06:58 PM
at some level this is an interesting thread and reflects a ton IMHO.

this band gives us access like none other and they listen because Lana and Row make it happen and they care........yeah they do.

none of their contemporaries take chances like they do.........none, zip, nada.

The Stones.......please? they play the same set list every damn night > no guests ever.

The Dead at their peak were 50%.......legendary for Bob Weir screw ups on Truckin' and Sugar Mag for his entire career ........guests? > they would have Johnny Johnson play piano for J. B. Goode........not much else.......not sure why.

Gregg's singing iis off the charts good right now.........mistakes - yeah........quality as good or batter than in many many years.

this place is filled with critics.......they mean well, they come here to the "Anything Goes" page to kick around their feelings with their ABB buddies.

all is well.

last night > YDLM never got off on the right foot > tough song and was surprised they chose it really.

never cared for Johhny Winter anyway and Los Lobos is a very solid group of players but they do not fit at all with this great bunch.

 

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  posted on 3/11/2009 at 07:20 PM
I think what ever was wrong could have easily been avoided with more rehearsal and more direction from the band leader. Who is the band leader these days anyway?

I thought last night (Moogis) was in the same category as the first night (live). ABB is pretty much the same fairly excellent band with fairly impeccable timing. I miscue here and there is par for the course and human and I would worry if there wasn't a few every now and then.

The integration of the guests needs a lot of work. There was a train wreck with Levon and I Shall Be Released, but nothing as bad as Serve Somebody at the Christmas Jam. Last night's Johnny set was very very good, however, they could have worked ion integrating Johnny's approach to the songs better. The night before Taj basically led the band so everything was tight. Last night I wondered who was leading the band as I did the first night during Levon's set.

Whom ever is leading the band is not doing their job properly.


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I liked the show and the guests and the miscues happen. Been playin for years and it is what it is. As long as there is recovery - move on. Johnny was good but as mentioned had the ABB as his backup band - the Los Lobos guys were good but a little more rehersed would have been good. All in all, any ABB show regardless is a good show because ya never know how many are left!!! Enjoy the sounds!!

 

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  posted on 3/11/2009 at 07:28 PM
Angel.

you speak very well..........the band leader is in charge.

 

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  posted on 3/11/2009 at 07:33 PM
Remember, there are 15 nights, probably 100 songs and 30 guests. They'd have to practice the whole year to get that down pat. My kids saw Bright Eyes do something similar 2 years ago on a much smaller scale. When Lou Reed sat in there were some mishaps. Nothing on this large a scale can go without a hitch.

25 years ago at the JVC Jazz Festival I saw a tribute to Duke Ellington's sax players. The show ended with 10 of the best sax players in the world jamming to Cotton Tail. The critics gave it a lukewarm review. I dissented; to have that many people on stage at one time playing together with a minimum of rehearsal was unreal - no way to expect perfection.

 

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  posted on 3/11/2009 at 07:34 PM
Thank you. After 60-70 ABB shows since March 2002, I think I know what I'm talking about. It is hard to write for many reasons, but it had to be said.

Leadership is always the critical element in any group endeavor. That is true no matter the context.

I also want to say that I thought this as well: Last night's show (with Johnny) had a few flubs but that is why it's live. If I wanted perfection I would listen to a commercial release and since I rarely listen to those for the ABB and Mule, so, it must be the imperfections that make them so endearing.

I totally dug when Gregg laughed at himself when he started singing before he should have. That is the kind of thing that unless you are right in front of him you can easily miss, but it came through on Moogis and frankly, that kind of honesty and realism is what makes Moogis and live music so great.

But the point about things being somewhat sloppy, is also true. I think rehearsal and integrating guests better is still valid, even within human imperfection.


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you speak very well..........the band leader is in charge.


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Derek is on top of his game and practically carries the band at times.


What??? I disagree with pretty much everything in your post.


i disagree with your disagreement of that


I disagree with your review of that statement.

 

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  posted on 3/11/2009 at 07:37 PM
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If a lyric messup by Gregg is going to make you think it isn't a good show, you may never see a good ABB show again. Gregg messes up a lyric almost nightly, but overall he is better than just about anyone else. As for the guests, the only rehearsal they have is at the sound check. They are going to miss a cue every now and then.


Did y'all see Derek tap Johnny on the shoulder to let him know the next solo was his?

 

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  posted on 3/11/2009 at 07:41 PM
I think that is because Johnny is blind.

 

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  posted on 3/11/2009 at 07:46 PM
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I think that is because Johnny is blind.


That wasn't what I was getting at.

Johnny has been legally blind since the early 70's.

Nevermind.

I'll go back to the WP and ague about gun control.

 

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