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  posted on 3/4/2009 at 05:22 AM


[Edited on 1/6/2012 by jerryphilbob]

 
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see the belize thread that was made for you a while back

 

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UBS "will not give names of US clients"

UBS says it will not provide the names of any more American clients to the United States authorities in a fight over secrecy and tax avoidance.
Appearing before a Senate subcommittee on Wednesday, UBS senior wealth management executive Mark Branson said the bank "has now done all that it can do to cooperate" with the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) request without violating Swiss criminal laws.

"We respectfully submit that the IRS is attempting to resolve this diplomatic dispute in a courtroom, which is neither productive nor appropriate," he said. "UBS cannot disclose information to the IRS that would put its employees at serious risk of criminal prosecution under Swiss law."

Switzerland's biggest bank has accepted responsibility for helping thousands of Americans hide assets from the US government, but is not giving the IRS the names of all US citizens who maintain secret accounts with the bank.

Branson added that banking secrecy is a value treasured by the Swiss just as freedom and democracy are treasured by Americans.

A Senator questioning Branson retorted that banking secrecy as practiced in the UBS case was no value but a "conspiracy" to break US law.

UBS already has paid hefty fines and turned over the names of about 250 US clients, but the IRS wants the identities of 48,000 wealthy Americans who maintain secret accounts with bank. That is slightly fewer than the 52,000 names originally requested.


 

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Are you going to edit everything in this thread as well?


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  posted on 3/5/2009 at 08:25 PM
Bill Clinton accepts blame for the economy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQwaS0Qtswo

 

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  posted on 3/5/2009 at 08:47 PM
When this country rises from its current sick bed on the back of a thriving PRIVATE green energy sector and a stronger, more efficient and more humane health care system; and when the educational outcomes here are again the finest in the world and American innovation and entrepreneurship is booming because we invested in the middle class today, maybe you'll understand that this President doesn't take the left-wing view or the right-wing view, he takes the LONG view. Till then, your prattle is a bunch of white noise, and your selective understanding of history renders your every point worthless.

But by all means, carry on!


 

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  posted on 3/5/2009 at 09:02 PM
-Dinking too much of that Obama-Aid? Classic! Green Sector Tech? Oh my!


 

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I drink no Kool Aid, my friend. Neither left, right, or wingnut (your favorite flavor, apparently). I simply read history.

An actual glimpse at history would reveal that at pivotal moments, different sectors of the economy had to emerge and supplant entrenched interests that had bacome detrimental to the political and economic health of the nation. The old order never gives up without a fight, and history shows that the new industries never make it without significant help from the government. From the building of the Railroads and settling of the west to the rise of industrialization, the canal system, Fordism and free labor supplanting slavery, on to the highway system, suburbanization, the development of the Internet and the Military-Industrial complex -- every engine for economic growth in our history has been protected, nurtured, and invested in by the federal govt. using our tax dollars.

The failure of the right is that they don't understand the difference between good government intervention and bad -- they just lump it all together (so much easier that way -- it's always simpler to learn and spout an ideology like a catechism than it is to have a real thought in your head or an appreciation of any given historical moment's real complexity, its chalenges and its opportunities).

Life is not so easy to put into conceptual boxes, and history is always throwing us curve balls. Sometimes, govt intervention is bad and sometimes govt intervenion that has its heart in the right place is excessive and needs to be stopped. But other times, it is not just helpful but actually essential to our continued economic and political well-being. Anyone without an ideological ax to grind, and a decent analytical brain, and more than an ADD attention span, would read US history and see that.

Look up the Homestead Act, read Eric Foner on the Civil War, check out the history of the Erie Canal and the funding of the Pacific Railroad. Think about the Eisenhower highway system or the GI Bill. Follow the R&D trails and the huge tax breaks that led to the rise of the Internet. In other words, shut up and learn your country's history before you vomit forth this bilge and accuse people who are way smarter than you of "drinking the Kool Aid."

Freakin' wingnut.

 

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  posted on 3/5/2009 at 10:23 PM
^Peteman, you just delivered a precision-guided bunkerbuster bomb on the compound of government is the problem crowd. Magnificent post.
 

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I drink no Kool Aid, my friend. Neither left, right, or wingnut (your favorite flavor, apparently). I simply read history.

An actual glimpse at history would reveal that at pivotal moments, different sectors of the economy had to emerge and supplant entrenched interests that had bacome detrimental to the political and economic health of the nation. The old order never gives up without a fight, and history shows that the new industries never make it without significant help from the government. From the building of the Railroads and settling of the west to the rise of industrialization, the canal system, Fordism and free labor supplanting slavery, on to the highway system, suburbanization, the development of the Internet and the Military-Industrial complex -- every engine for economic growth in our history has been protected, nurtured, and invested in by the federal govt. using our tax dollars.

The failure of the right is that they don't understand the difference between good government intervention and bad -- they just lump it all together (so much easier that way -- it's always simpler to learn and spout an ideology like a catechism than it is to have a real thought in your head or an appreciation of any given historical moment's real complexity, its chalenges and its opportunities).

Life is not so easy to put into conceptual boxes, and history is always throwing us curve balls. Sometimes, govt intervention is bad and sometimes govt intervenion that has its heart in the right place is excessive and needs to be stopped. But other times, it is not just helpful but actually essential to our continued economic and political well-being. Anyone without an ideological ax to grind, and a decent analytical brain, and more than an ADD attention span, would read US history and see that.

Look up the Homestead Act, read Eric Foner on the Civil War, check out the history of the Erie Canal and the funding of the Pacific Railroad. Think about the Eisenhower highway system or the GI Bill. Follow the R&D trails and the huge tax breaks that led to the rise of the Internet. In other words, shut up and learn your country's history before you vomit forth this bilge and accuse people who are way smarter than you of "drinking the Kool Aid."

Freakin' wingnut.


Bravo Pete!!!!!!!!! Bravo!!!!!!!! When I read a post like that I wish I had studied more in High School much less went to college. You can really lay your thoughts down nicely. I think President Obama needs to start laying it out to the American people in the way that you did in that post. His mistake is being too pessimistic in his speeches. Maybe it is time for him to switch over to more optimism in his speeches. We all realize that the last eight years have dug us into a huge hole and I don't think we need to be reminded of that anymore. Time for optimism!

 

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  posted on 3/5/2009 at 11:50 PM
One of the smartest things I've read here in a long time.

Bravo!

 

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I drink no Kool Aid, my friend. Neither left, right, or wingnut (your favorite flavor, apparently). I simply read history.

An actual glimpse at history would reveal that at pivotal moments, different sectors of the economy had to emerge and supplant entrenched interests that had bacome detrimental to the political and economic health of the nation. The old order never gives up without a fight, and history shows that the new industries never make it without significant help from the government. From the building of the Railroads and settling of the west to the rise of industrialization, the canal system, Fordism and free labor supplanting slavery, on to the highway system, suburbanization, the development of the Internet and the Military-Industrial complex -- every engine for economic growth in our history has been protected, nurtured, and invested in by the federal govt. using our tax dollars.

The failure of the right is that they don't understand the difference between good government intervention and bad -- they just lump it all together (so much easier that way -- it's always simpler to learn and spout an ideology like a catechism than it is to have a real thought in your head or an appreciation of any given historical moment's real complexity, its chalenges and its opportunities).

Life is not so easy to put into conceptual boxes, and history is always throwing us curve balls. Sometimes, govt intervention is bad and sometimes govt intervenion that has its heart in the right place is excessive and needs to be stopped. But other times, it is not just helpful but actually essential to our continued economic and political well-being. Anyone without an ideological ax to grind, and a decent analytical brain, and more than an ADD attention span, would read US history and see that.

Look up the Homestead Act, read Eric Foner on the Civil War, check out the history of the Erie Canal and the funding of the Pacific Railroad. Think about the Eisenhower highway system or the GI Bill. Follow the R&D trails and the huge tax breaks that led to the rise of the Internet. In other words, shut up and learn your country's history before you vomit forth this bilge and accuse people who are way smarter than you of "drinking the Kool Aid."

Freakin' wingnut.



True. There have been some examples of "good government intervention." Now can you make a case that the government hasn't wasted literally trillions of dollars through the years -- the myriad of projects and undertakings that have had little or no positive results -- and continues to do so today? Maybe they wouldn't be lumped together so easily if the waste didn't outweigh the good by probably 10 to one. The track record has been a little questionable.

Do you think the government has done a good job handling money?

 

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An actual glimpse at history would reveal that at pivotal moments, different sectors of the economy had to emerge and supplant entrenched interests that had bacome detrimental to the political and economic health of the nation. The old order never gives up without a fight, and history shows that the new industries never make it without significant help from the government. From the building of the Railroads and settling of the west to the rise of industrialization, the canal system, Fordism and free labor supplanting slavery, on to the highway system, suburbanization, the development of the Internet and the Military-Industrial complex -- every engine for economic growth in our history has been protected, nurtured, and invested in by the federal govt. using our tax dollars.

The failure of the right is that they don't understand the difference between good government intervention and bad -- they just lump it all together (so much easier that way -- it's always simpler to learn and spout an ideology like a catechism than it is to have a real thought in your head or an appreciation of any given historical moment's real complexity, its chalenges and its opportunities).

Life is not so easy to put into conceptual boxes, and history is always throwing us curve balls. Sometimes, govt intervention is bad and sometimes govt intervenion that has its heart in the right place is excessive and needs to be stopped. But other times, it is not just helpful but actually essential to our continued economic and political well-being. Anyone without an ideological ax to grind, and a decent analytical brain, and more than an ADD attention span, would read US history and see that.

Look up the Homestead Act, read Eric Foner on the Civil War, check out the history of the Erie Canal and the funding of the Pacific Railroad. Think about the Eisenhower highway system or the GI Bill. Follow the R&D trails and the huge tax breaks that led to the rise of the Internet. In other words, shut up and learn your country's history before you vomit forth this bilge and accuse people who are way smarter than you of "drinking the Kool Aid."


You seem to have failed to show me in any way how Mr. Obama's policies today are going to relate to your history. While there is good government, please show me where Mr. Obama is practicing good goverment?

He is wasting trillions of dollars, laying waste to capitalism, and putting yours and my kids futures on the line. While you have done an excellent job of quoting past successes, it certainly doesn't translate into any success for Mr. Obama.

Mr. Obama is continuing the failures of FDR, that pushed our economy further from recession into a depression and relivng the history of Weimar Germany. FDR did get one thing right, Glass-Steagall, but Bill Clinton didn't think we needed it. It was the very thng that allowed companies like AIG to get too big to fail. Now we plow millions of our tax dollars into a black hole of nothingness. Brilliant.

Please show me ONE case in history where a country that has printed their currency adnauseum, that has not met certain DOOM!

Keep drinking that Obama-aid !!! Obviously it tastes good to you! Personally I prefer capitalism and the free market system as oposed to Mr. Obama and his socialist/fascist ways. In fact, the markets are pretty much puking up the Obama-aid and want nothing to do with his policies!

Funny how the media is still drinking the Obama-aid and wouldn't dare question anything he does or says? But then again, that is how he got elected, thru the media love fest for a guy with no experience in one our most trying times? Keep drinking that propoganda that they are feeding you.

Quit being a leftwing nut! You probably beileve in global warming too? WTFU!



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  posted on 3/6/2009 at 01:13 AM
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The failure of the right is that they don't understand the difference between good government intervention and bad -- they just lump it all together (so much easier that way -- it's always simpler to learn and spout an ideology like a catechism than it is to have a real thought in your head or an appreciation of any given historical moment's real complexity, its chalenges and its opportunities).
This is a failure of both the left and right, in equal measure, and with no difference in application. The left loves centralized control and spends little effort in analyzing the ROI. The right attacks expansion of gov't, at times to the detriment of supporting programs that are beneficial. Both can be faulted.

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every engine for economic growth in our history has been protected, nurtured, and invested in by the federal govt. using our tax dollars.
I'd disagree with the application of "every", but it would be a quibble. The difference you fail to note is that while gov't involvement was part of many of these events, it never sought control of the industry/institution following. In fact, virtually all the instances you cite were done to benefit the engine of capitalism and propel it forward, not to limit or supplant it.

What is going on now is nothing short of a power grab for the social and economic control of the country's agenda in the absence of a strong alternative in the private sector. Where in the new administration's plan do you see them withdrawing once all these new programs and entitlements are established? They see the wealth of the private sector as a cookie jar to fuel their social vision. Most of those prior instances you cite were actions designed to make the cookie jar bigger.

 

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I drink no Kool Aid, my friend. Neither left, right, or wingnut (your favorite flavor, apparently). I simply read history.

An actual glimpse at history would reveal that at pivotal moments, different sectors of the economy had to emerge and supplant entrenched interests that had bacome detrimental to the political and economic health of the nation. The old order never gives up without a fight, and history shows that the new industries never make it without significant help from the government. From the building of the Railroads and settling of the west to the rise of industrialization, the canal system, Fordism and free labor supplanting slavery, on to the highway system, suburbanization, the development of the Internet and the Military-Industrial complex -- every engine for economic growth in our history has been protected, nurtured, and invested in by the federal govt. using our tax dollars.

The failure of the right is that they don't understand the difference between good government intervention and bad -- they just lump it all together (so much easier that way -- it's always simpler to learn and spout an ideology like a catechism than it is to have a real thought in your head or an appreciation of any given historical moment's real complexity, its chalenges and its opportunities).

Life is not so easy to put into conceptual boxes, and history is always throwing us curve balls. Sometimes, govt intervention is bad and sometimes govt intervenion that has its heart in the right place is excessive and needs to be stopped. But other times, it is not just helpful but actually essential to our continued economic and political well-being. Anyone without an ideological ax to grind, and a decent analytical brain, and more than an ADD attention span, would read US history and see that.

Look up the Homestead Act, read Eric Foner on the Civil War, check out the history of the Erie Canal and the funding of the Pacific Railroad. Think about the Eisenhower highway system or the GI Bill. Follow the R&D trails and the huge tax breaks that led to the rise of the Internet. In other words, shut up and learn your country's history before you vomit forth this bilge and accuse people who are way smarter than you of "drinking the Kool Aid."

Freakin' wingnut.
One of the best posts, ever.

"Freakin' wingnut", love it.

 

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  posted on 3/6/2009 at 07:32 AM
You seem to have failed to show me in any way how Mr. Obama's policies today are going to relate to your history. While there is good government, please show me where Mr. Obama is practicing good goverment?

He is wasting trillions of dollars, laying waste to capitalism, and putting yours and my kids futures on the line. While you have done an excellent job of quoting past successes, it certainly doesn't translate into any success for Mr. Obama.

Mr. Obama is continuing the failures of FDR, that pushed our economy further from recession into a depression and relivng the history of Weimar Germany. FDR did get one thing right, Glass-Steagall, but Bill Clinton didn't think we needed it. It was the very thng that allowed companies like AIG to get too big to fail. Now we plow millions of our tax dollars into a black hole of nothingness. Brilliant.

Please show me ONE case in history where a country that has printed their currency adnauseum, that has not met certain DOOM!

Keep drinking that Obama-aid !!! Obviously it tastes good to you! Personally I prefer capitalism and the free market system as oposed to Mr. Obama and his socialist/fascist ways. In fact, the markets are pretty much puking up the Obama-aid and want nothing to do with his policies!

Funny how the media is still drinking the Obama-aid and wouldn't dare question anything he does or says? But then again, that is how he got elected, thru the media love fest for a guy with no experience in one our most trying times? Keep drinking that propoganda that they are feeding you.

Quit being a leftwing nut! You probably beileve in global warming too? WTFU!\





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  posted on 3/6/2009 at 07:56 AM
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Mr. Obama is continuing the failures of FDR, that pushed our economy further from recession into a depression and relivng the history of Weimar Germany.


Geez. How wrong can you be about something? Uh, we did not have inflation during the 30s. FDR pushed us OUT of the depression into recession, which was an improvement. You need to get some facts straight before inventing these 'theories' of yours.

You act as if we are not inches away from a deflationary spiral and depression. There is no doubt that inflation can be a problem once we stabilize, but that is not an immediate threat.

Hard to form coherent arguments to these silly paranoid rants. You don't know enough about this to even be wrong.

No doubt these are scary times. No doubt Obama has made and will continue to make mistakes. No doubt you will continue to flail about and whine and rant incoherently. Calm down for f*cks sake.

 

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Personally I prefer capitalism and the free market system
Uh, isn't that the way we got into this mess?

 

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Wasn't there an almost identical thread like this in the WP a couple years ago coming from a leftish perspective? Clowns to the left of me ,jokers to the right....

 

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JerryPhilBob, that's so funny! Wow, your graphics have totally changed my mind!! It's amazing how some sophomoric dude with photoshop can overcome my years of studying history... I really owe you a debt of gratitude for opening my eyes.

Now seriously, you clown, read a book about the New Deal and FDR before you start in on this nonsense.

A quick rundown of some ACTUAL similarities between the start of FDR's administration and the start of Obama's:

1. Years of untrammelled speculation on Wall Street, mostly under Republican regimes? Check.
2. A crisis that was predictable, predicted, and well under way while a Republican presided over the nation and the markets, doing little to nothing about it? Check.
3. Rising unemployment, foreclosures, and economic desperation among the "Common Man and Woman"? Check.
4. A Republican voted out in shame and ignominy? Check.
5. A Democratic president inheriting a gigantic mess not of his making? Check.

OK, so all those parallels work. Now, read Jonathan Alter's book -- hardly a leftist rah rah tome -- about FDR's first 100 days, called the Defining Moment. They have it at the library. You know, places supported by your local government and tax dollars to help you figure out how to make your way in this big confusing world. I suggest you avail yourself of it.

Your alarmism is like Glenn Beck's: ignorant (willfully) and baseless.

I will leave you with one scenario and a question, which it would be great if you could actually answer:

It's January 20, 2009. Jerryphilbob has just been sworn in as President of a nation teetering on the brink of financial collapse. What does President Jeryphilbob do? Outline the actions of your first 100 days, and we'll see if they look workable.

Have a good day, Chicken Little.

 

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Nice post The PeteMan I was an American history major in college, and you've hit the nail on the head. I try to stay out of these threads, but just had to give you some props. Thanks.

BTW - I actually have read several books on FDR

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Mr. Obama is continuing the failures of FDR, that pushed our economy further from recession into a depression and relivng the history of Weimar Germany.


Geez. How wrong can you be about something? Uh, we did not have inflation during the 30s. FDR pushed us OUT of the depression into recession, which was an improvement. You need to get some facts straight before inventing these 'theories' of yours.

You act as if we are not inches away from a deflationary spiral and depression. There is no doubt that inflation can be a problem once we stabilize, but that is not an immediate threat.

Hard to form coherent arguments to these silly paranoid rants. You don't know enough about this to even be wrong.

No doubt these are scary times. No doubt Obama has made and will continue to make mistakes. No doubt you will continue to flail about and whine and rant incoherently. Calm down for f*cks sake.


Here, Chicken Little, is a taste of what FDR was inheriting the weekend he took office:

"Unrest was already growing in the farm belt, where mobs had broken up bankruptcy auctions. Four thousand men had occupied the Nebraska staehouse and 5,000 stormed Seattle's county building. The governor of North Carolina predicted a violent revolution, abd police in Chicago clubbed protesting teachers who had not been paid all school year. Everywhere, bank runs threatened to turn violent. By the inaugural weekend, police in nearly every American city were preparing for an onslaught of angry depositors. At least some were certain to be armed."

This is from Jonathan Alter's book. This is a description of what Republican President Hoover was dumping in FDR's lap. At the time, economists said the only precedent for what was hapening to the world economy was "the Dark Ages." Now, FDR's attitude when he came in was to calm sh!t down and then start trying to revive the economy principally from the bottom up, by putting people to work so that they could keep their homes, spend some money, get the lifeblood of capitalism flowing again. He SAVED capitalism at a moment when REPUBLICAN economic policies had taken the system they cherish to the brink. It is generally unfetered laissez faire capitalism that threatens to kill the gose that laid the golden egg.

You asked if I could show you where Mr. Obama is practicing good government. Well, only history will be able to judge, but he has most of the broad strokes right. We have to wean ourselves off foreign oil -- for economic, environmental and national security reasons. His budget and the stimulus seek to begin to do that. There are tens of billions in funds in there to help tide the green energy industries through this transition, and there are bilions to begin the process of converting our grid and shore up badly ailing infrastructure. These aren't socialistic, they're investments of our money into creating the conditions to get the golden goose back, to get the economy on a realistic path to growth.

He also, despite the propaganda (yes, the Kool-Aid) you are being fed by the Limbaugh/Hannity/Beck/Malkin axis of idiocy, is enacting a HUGE TAX CUT. He has actually doubled down on Reagan's rhetoric about taxes, he simply believes that people like, ahem, YOU should be geting the tax cuts as opposed to the wealthiest few. And for all the freaking out about the tax hikes on the rich, he's putting most of the ates back to pre-Bush levels and not higher. Why are working class and middle class people freaking out on behalf of a few people who live on the east side of Manhattan? Seriously, cuz that's what it boils down to.

Finally, most people agree that health care costs are sinking the boat and we need to get them under control. So he's targeting that and making that a priority.

In his day, FDR avoided taking on dictatorial powers (something that can't be said of George W Bush, btw) and pushed the limits of the existing frameworks of capitalism and democracy to save the system as best he could. While he overreached in places, he was smacked down by congress and the courts when he did because he did NOT actually do anything like what they did in Germany or Italy, He was not a fascist, not a dictator, and not a socialist. And any use of those terms to describe him that way is just propaganda being fed to you by the right and then you spitting it back out ad nauseum. Yes, again, the Kool Aid that YOU are drinking.

I think Obama is, like FDR, so far trying to stay within the bounds of our system to revive and strengthen it for the long haul. Again, history will be the judge. But I ask you again: what's your solution to the credit crisis, the global economic downturn, the foreclosures, the dependence on foreign oil, the rising unemployment and the potential for massive bankruptcies in blue-chip American businesses -- all problems that emerged and festered under a Republican regime. What would you do?

 

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Great series of posts, Pete. Hopefully JPB will take a deep breath and take the time to read these (really Jerry - at least give this the kind of consideration you give to the conspiracy internet sites that have you in their thrall). Thanks, Pete!!!

 

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JPB - You might try reading The Lion and the Fox by James MacGregor Burns. It may give you a little more insight into FDR. Just a suggestion.

 

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  posted on 3/6/2009 at 11:21 AM
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JerryPhilBob, that's so funny! Wow, your graphics have totally changed my mind!! It's amazing how some sophomoric dude with photoshop can overcome my years of studying history... I really owe you a debt of gratitude for opening my eyes.

Now seriously, you clown, read a book about the New Deal and FDR before you start in on this nonsense.

A quick rundown of some ACTUAL similarities between the start of FDR's administration and the start of Obama's:

1. Years of untrammelled speculation on Wall Street, mostly under Republican regimes? Check.
2. A crisis that was predictable, predicted, and well under way while a Republican presided over the nation and the markets, doing little to nothing about it? Check.
3. Rising unemployment, foreclosures, and economic desperation among the "Common Man and Woman"? Check.
4. A Republican voted out in shame and ignominy? Check.
5. A Democratic president inheriting a gigantic mess not of his making? Check.

OK, so all those parallels work. Now, read Jonathan Alter's book -- hardly a leftist rah rah tome -- about FDR's first 100 days, called the Defining Moment. They have it at the library. You know, places supported by your local government and tax dollars to help you figure out how to make your way in this big confusing world. I suggest you avail yourself of it.

Your alarmism is like Glenn Beck's: ignorant (willfully) and baseless.

I will leave you with one scenario and a question, which it would be great if you could actually answer:

It's January 20, 2009. Jerryphilbob has just been sworn in as President of a nation teetering on the brink of financial collapse. What does President Jeryphilbob do? Outline the actions of your first 100 days, and we'll see if they look workable.

Have a good day, Chicken Little.
I am not worthy!

Great post, Pete

 
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