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  posted on 8/28/2003 at 09:13 AM
Just came across the article in the link below that says that some cdrs lose their sound quality after only 2 years, that's not good new for people who like myself who take at least a year to build up a collection and keep it growing.

I buy mostly Fujis and haven't had a problem with them, but I've only been burning/trading for about a year.

My only problem is that Maxell gold music/audio cds won't play the first song on the cd on my computer (Macintosh) other than that, most brands work okay...guess I'll have to listen a year from now and see.

Anyone have any good/bad experiences with certain brands of cds? I'd be interested to hear what long time tapers have to say about older cdrs in their collections.

Here's the link to the article.

http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/7751

 
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  posted on 8/28/2003 at 09:38 AM
i don't belive it. seriously; i mean it is entirely possible that the data was written poorly or what not. seems to me that the burning software could be to blame.

what the hell do the dutch know anyway? we're not talking wooden shoes here.

 

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  posted on 8/28/2003 at 09:45 AM
Don't they know about coffee houses, the Dutch? Or is that somewhere else? They know plenty, LOL....Believe it, Linnie. They are talking about generic cds. The good ones have been tested and if you use Ty, you have nothing to worry about....and even if they do deteriorate, we can just make more trades and replace them!!! More trades=new friends....

 

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  posted on 8/28/2003 at 09:53 AM
There has been some extensive testing done (if I can find the link later, I'll post it here) using accelerated aging tests that seem to point to certain dye layers lasting significantly longer than others. I do have a trading bud who has had Imation going bad after about 3 years and they were good burns for sure. They would play, but you could no longer extract the data (ie EAC)...

Bottom line, use quality discs and stay away from the generics. If you are already using Japanese Fuji's you should be in good shape, I think their life expectancy is around a 100 years if kept well or about 30 min. on the dashboard of your car in the summer, whichever comes first...

[Edited on 8/28/2003 by Denza]

 

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  posted on 8/28/2003 at 10:00 AM
100 years? at least they'll still be around after I'm gone
 

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  posted on 8/28/2003 at 10:18 AM
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The good ones have been tested and if you use Ty,


goliath enlighten me. Ty?

 

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  posted on 8/28/2003 at 10:47 AM
ty = Taiyo Yuden

TY manufactures their own blanks as well as the Japanese Fuji's, and some Sony & Memorex (the ones with the cloudy inner ring). Top of the line. Mitsui are premium too.

 

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  posted on 8/28/2003 at 11:09 AM
I've had lots of problems with Memorex, using two different burners. So even if TY does make some of 'em, I don't think it's worth the gamble unless there's some way to know before opening the shrink-wrap. Maxells used to be really bad, but I got some as a gift not too long ago and the whole spindle burned flawlessly....haven't had them long enough to know if they deteriorate though, and the conventional wisdom is they suck so I wouldn't trade Maxell discs.

I've never had a problem with Japanese FujiFilm, over the past several years. TDK's generally work pretty well too. My rule of thumb is to trade FujiFilm (Japanese), TDK, Sony, Kodak, Mitsui, HHb, Taiyo Yuden. And stay away from discs made in Taiwan.

But like ol' man Goliath said, you can always re-trade for a show and make new friends in the process. Even Memorex discs are better than the ol' Maxell XL-II analog tapes.

[Edited on 8/28/2003 by Zambi]

 

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  posted on 8/28/2003 at 12:46 PM
CDRs can definitely have problems and decay, but as far as "lose quality", the way I think of that term, I'm not sure about. I have several CDRs that have "decayed", meaning a skip, not caused by a scratch, may appear. Or minor addedstatic will start coming in, probably for the same reason. But as far as the sound quality, beyond those nuances, actually getting worse, I don't think that's physically possible. I have a solution, recopy all your cdrs every year or two! hee hee. (It would take me a year or two just to do that!)

I've had problems with Memorex as well. Not me personally, but I've gotten several trades that needed to be resent to me, because there was an annoying digital clicking throughout the disc that would get very bad by the end of the CD. I also have problems with the gold Maxell discs. The paint will chip on them and then they skip or won't play. Also some cd players will only play the Maxell discs with a very annoying digital static through them.

I also get other cdrs in trades that skip or have the static, but only in certain players and vice versa. It's weird how tempermental cds & cdrs are...

 

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  posted on 8/28/2003 at 12:57 PM
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what the hell do the dutch know anyway? we're not talking wooden shoes here.


You kill me Linnie. I love it!

 

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  posted on 8/28/2003 at 01:47 PM
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I also get other cdrs in trades that skip or have the static, but only in certain players and vice versa. It's weird how tempermental cds & cdrs are...


I had this problem with a show I got a month ago. Played fine in every player I have. But in my burner.... static. And it was on a Fuji

 

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  posted on 8/28/2003 at 01:55 PM
I have only wore out one disc so far. Yurtle was kind enough to replace it for me as a freebie since I traded him the show over a year ago.

 

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  posted on 8/28/2003 at 02:19 PM
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I've had lots of problems with Memorex, using two different burners. So even if TY does make some of 'em, I don't think it's worth the gamble unless there's some way to know before opening the shrink-wrap.


I haven't ever had a problem with Memorex, but the ones made by TY you can tell by the black screw top just like the Japanes Fuji's used to be. They also say made in Japan.

 

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  posted on 8/28/2003 at 02:31 PM
so all "made in japan" memorex are TY? or just the black screw top?

 

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  posted on 8/28/2003 at 02:36 PM
All the Memorex I've seen that say "made in japan" all had the black screw top.

[Edited on 8/28/2003 by Denza]

 

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