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  posted on 2/28/2009 at 10:56 AM
Curious if they are still on Obamas payroll? Even better, will the assault rifle ban apply to them too? I thought it was illegal to have a privately funded (wink, wink) army in this country? I know they were kicked out of Iraq, so why do we need them today? Shouldn't we kick them out of our country too?
 
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  posted on 2/28/2009 at 11:01 AM
I found this little gem on youtube, but it is curious that they are continuing training and have changed their name? I wonder what they are training for?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdkA5H8bHfk

 

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  posted on 2/28/2009 at 11:05 AM
Well, I built me a raft and shes ready for floatin
Ol mississippi, shes callin my name
Catfish are jumpin
That paddle wheel thumpin
Black water keeps rollin on past just the same

Old black water, keep on rollin
Mississippi moon, wont you keep on shinin on me
Old black water, keep on rollin
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  posted on 2/28/2009 at 11:14 AM
Sweet: The doobies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqZ95a249p0

Should be a big hit at Wanee!

[Edited on 2/28/2009 by jerryphilbob]

 

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  posted on 2/28/2009 at 11:18 AM
Of course everyone in the modern world has heard the Doobies music, can't honestly say I would seek them out and go to one of their shows, BUT the fact that they will be at Wanee.....SCHWEEEEET!

Looking forward to their show for certain.

And if there are any Blackwater employees at the show, I will buy them a beer!

[Edited on 2/28/2009 by heineken515]

 

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  posted on 2/28/2009 at 11:23 AM
They will be there, I just don't think you will be able to find them!
 

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  posted on 2/28/2009 at 12:19 PM
They'll be hired for work in Iraq under their new name. It's just like Titan and Caci after the scandal broke (thanks to Mohammad Bazi, Newsday reporter in Beirut)that they were paid by our govt. to train the military on how to torture/interrogate prisoners in Abu Ghraib, they just changed the corporate name to L3 and have a big office in NYC. The names can change but they go on forever, undaunted, above the law.

 

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  posted on 2/28/2009 at 12:20 PM
Phew, good news Gina, for a minute I thought we would be without their protection...
 

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They've been kicked out of Iraq. The name change doesn't matter.


The guys just become employed by the other company and dirty deeds continue.

 

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  posted on 3/2/2009 at 03:29 PM
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And if there are any Blackwater employees at the show, I will buy them a beer!

[Edited on 2/28/2009 by heineken515]


So, mercs and criminals are your cup of tea? Interesting.

 

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  posted on 3/2/2009 at 04:49 PM
So all Blackwater employees are criminals?? I have family and friends, both, doing consulting work in Iraq right now and making good money, and they ain't be criminals. Three years pay in six months time. I'd think about it if I had their abilities. There are a lot more companies out there doing this than Blackwater and I seriously doubt President Obama will get rid of all of them. If I met some, I'm with heineken515 on this, I would buy them a beer and pick their brain. Apparently you'd be the turn-Jack-in stiff that you've always been. I think some 'mercs' should be hired to go after the janjaweed in the Sudan, seek them out and take them out, along with establishing a no fly zone.


[Edited on 3/2/2009 by DerekFromCincinnati]

 

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So all Blackwater employees are criminals?? I have family and friends, both, doing consulting work in Iraq right now and making good money, and they ain't be criminals. Three years pay in six months time. I'd think about it if I had their abilities. There are a lot more companies out there doing this than Blackwater and I seriously doubt President Obama will get rid of all of them. If I met some, I'm with heineken515 on this, I would buy them a beer and pick their brain. Apparently uou'd be the turn-Jack-in stiff that you've always been. I think some 'mercs' should be hired to go after the janjaweed in the Sudan, seek them out and take them out, along with establishing a no fly zone.

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You sure are brave about sending people on missions.




They are hired hands, MM. They would either take the money and go or not go. Hence the term 'mercs.' You are a bright one.

 

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  posted on 3/2/2009 at 05:17 PM
Mercs. They either take the money and go, or they don't. Attempt to think! Thanks.

 

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Some good stuff on their website, all this is on sale I suspect due to the name change to Xe.

 

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Give it a rest, Derek. You are fond of killing others as long as you don't have to do any of the work or take any of the responsibility. I don't care if they are mercs, you take a very light attitude about seending other people to do the killing you think needs to be done. Not many people who have been there have any respect for armchair warriors like you.


Bullsh*t. There's a little bit of a genocide going on over in the Sudan. You'd think you would have a meltdown over something like that instead of the stupid crap that tends to bring it on. They are called mercenaries for a reason.

 

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  posted on 3/3/2009 at 12:24 AM
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So all Blackwater employees are criminals??


Quite a few, yes. On top of that, many of them have made the mission of the US in Iraq extremely difficult and have greatly contributed to the troubles there.

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I have family and friends, both, doing consulting work in Iraq right now and making good money, and they ain't be criminals.


Consultants are one thing, combat mercs are something else.

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Three years pay in six months time. I'd think about it if I had their abilities.


What abilities? No critical thinking skills? Disregard for human life unless you get a benefit from it? Sounds like you are overqualified.

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There are a lot more companies out there doing this than Blackwater and I seriously doubt President Obama will get rid of all of them. If I met some, I'm with heineken515 on this, I would buy them a beer and pick their brain.


So because a bunch of yayhoos are criminals, then its ok if Blackwater gets in on it?

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Apparently you'd be the turn-Jack-in stiff that you've always been. I think some 'mercs' should be hired to go after the janjaweed in the Sudan, seek them out and take them out, along with establishing a no fly zone.



[Edited on 3/2/2009 by DerekFromCincinnati]


How would one lawless group of thugs be any different from another?

 

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And if there are any Blackwater employees at the show, I will buy them a beer!

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So, mercs and criminals are your cup of tea? Interesting.


Wow, so I guess you would have to maybe think twice about having a beer with someone who would have a beer with some Blackwater guys, considering it might mean that mercs and criminals are their cup of tea and you being of the by-the-book school and all. Interesting.

What a bunch of Dudley Do-Squank bullsh*t.

I don't really need to read anything more than that. There it be.

 

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  posted on 3/3/2009 at 01:03 PM
Blackwater does the jobs that no one else has the guts to do.
Be glad they are there.

 

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  posted on 3/3/2009 at 01:18 PM
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Blackwater does the jobs that no one else has the guts to do.
Be glad they are there.


Indeed. very few people have the guts to murder with impunity and then hide behind our flag.

 

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  posted on 3/3/2009 at 03:10 PM
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Blackwater does the jobs that no one else has the guts to do.
Be glad they are there.


Like guarding diplomats for $200,000 a year? I'm sure there's plenty of current military personnel making a fraction of that doing much more dangerous missions who'd be glad to volunteer for such work. Organizations like Black water get these gigs because they lobbied the right politicians, not because the mission is beyond the realm of our own military. And that's not to say their mission isn't dangerous, just not impossible to do with our own volunteer army. It's simply another example of privatization of our military for the profit of a few.

I know of two individuals who have been hired by this organization. If I were to have a beer with either, I'd simply mention how dangerous the work is and good for them for using their wits and skills to make a **** load of money in a relatively short time. I certainly wouldn't pretend that their mission is any more dangerous than many others being done by our own volunteer military, however.


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Like guarding diplomats for $200,000 a year? I'm sure there's plenty of current military personnel making a fraction of that doing much more dangerous missions who'd be glad to volunteer for such work. Organizations like Black water get these gigs because they lobbied the right politicians, not because the mission is beyond the realm of our own military. And that's not to say their mission isn't dangerous, just not impossible to do with our own volunteer army. It's simply another example of privatization of our military for the profit of a few.



Shouldn't our military be out in the field taking on the enemy and securing ground and making a difference instead of being bodyguards?? Here in the states, the Secret Service makes a heck of a lot more than those in the military.

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Indeed. very few people have the guts to murder with impunity and then hide behind our flag.


So, you do assume that all private corps are full of criminals instead of the highly trained folks from our own military?? I'm not sure how the by-the-book starch-collared Dudley Do-Squank mind works, exactly.

 

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I'm not sure how the by-the-book starch-collared Dudley Do-Squank mind works, exactly.


That's because you're 12 years old, and he is an adult.

 

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Phew, good news Gina, for a minute I thought we would be without their protection...


Maybe Blackwater will invade Iran.

 

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They are called mercenaries for a reason.



Yup.

If you called them Easter bunnies, people would laugh.

 

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  posted on 3/3/2009 at 09:06 PM
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So, you do assume that all private corps are full of criminals instead of the highly trained folks from our own military??


No, not all. Quite a few BW though. Youre funny though. Highly trained? Theres lots of 'highly trained' people doing work over there that dont think they are untouchable by law and kill Iraqis like they are shooting skeet. BW, not so much.

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I'm not sure how the by-the-book starch-collared Dudley Do-Squank mind works, exactly.


Im not surprised. You have no honor, no ethics and no morals. In every situation, you would do whats best for you, rather than what might be best for everyone. Youre selfish, egocentric and unable to comprehend the larger picture. Ever. You know the background of these people just like everyone else here, yet you run to defend them knowing you are full of shiat as usual. You dont understand the basic concepts of right/wrong and that its considered "wrong", for instance, to murder 17 people just 'cause. They have contributed endlessly to the dire situation in Iraq and have made the job harder for the troops you supposedly support. The military are the professionals here, not the blood money mercs. No, I have a feeling the military had a few too many rules for them to follow...geneva...human rights... etc. and just like you, would prefer to just do whatever they wanted rather than whats right or whats allowed. No, you dont know how my mind thinks and Im glad for that as every time you say it, I get reminded what a scummy little man you are and that human garbage comes in all forms, even music writers from the backwoods. Keep defending murderers and criminals, Derek. You guys have all the same ideals.

 

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