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  posted on 2/25/2009 at 04:32 PM
I'm sitting in the outer office listening to my boss let someone go for budgetary reasons . . .

She has to have "the talk" with another guy tomorrow; young guy with a lot of good ideas, but he's the bottom man, so . . .

 

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  posted on 2/25/2009 at 04:34 PM
Man, that is rough....we have three people lined up to go in our office...it's been a tough week here and it's going to get worse letting them go. I guess I'm just glad it's not me, but still....

 

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  posted on 2/25/2009 at 04:36 PM
I feel for you and your co-worker (and your boss). I've had to let 3 good people go for the same reasons in the last 6 months...it SUCKS!!!

 

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  posted on 2/25/2009 at 05:30 PM
If there were to be an all-out nuclear war, the very people who got us into the Goddamned thing would be gathered in a fall-out safe bunker. Similarly with companies - the ones who made all the harebrained decisions keep their jobs while the heads of the worker bees roll. I can relate. Believe me.

 

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  posted on 2/25/2009 at 05:33 PM
I hate this story ... and am hearing it too often anymore (and seeing it told in my own work place).

 

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If there were to be an all-out nuclear war, the very people who got us into the Goddamned thing would be gathered in a fall-out safe bunker. Similarly with companies - the ones who made all the harebrained decisions keep their jobs while the heads of the worker bees roll. I can relate. Believe me.


Great analogy, Rusty.

 

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  posted on 2/25/2009 at 05:38 PM
A friend of mine got fired for no reason, just so they could cut back staff.

They had him out on a service call until 5am, when He was late for an 8am call the next day, they canned him.
(HVAC service guy). Folks need more than 3 hours sleep.

They are about to foreclose on his house. which used to be his grandmothers.

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  posted on 2/25/2009 at 05:44 PM
A couple of hundred being let go where I work. Many others furloughed. Scary times. Hang in there Troop, and everyone else too.

 

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  posted on 2/25/2009 at 07:13 PM
15% of my people will be losing their jobs next month. I have no say in which ones will get the axe. That decision will be made by the executives.
 

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15% of my people will be losing their jobs next month. I have no say in which ones will get the axe. That decision will be made by the executives.
This has got to suck, Bob...sorry you are having to deal with this. Out of curiousity ... will the executives also be the ones passing on the news to the 15%?

[Edited on 2/26/2009 by lolasdeb]

 

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  posted on 2/25/2009 at 07:23 PM
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15% of my people will be losing their jobs next month. I have no say in which ones will get the axe. That decision will be made by the executives.
This has got to suck, Bob...sorry you are having to deal with this. Out of curiousity ... will the executives also be the ones passing on the news to the 15%?

[Edited on 2/26/2009 by lolasdeb]

Yes they will. I won't even know who's gone until they are escorted out. I may be one of the 15%.

These aren't unskilled laborers we're talking about. These are engineers, many with advanced degrees and many with years of experience. Some are top performers, some are non-performers. But it doesn't look like that will be part of the equation. These are the times we are in.

 

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  posted on 2/25/2009 at 07:48 PM
Listening to Sean Hannity today, he says (in all sincerity-I think) that the economy today is nowere near as bad as the one Reagan inherited when he took office.

People's capacity for denial is beyond belief.

 

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  posted on 2/25/2009 at 08:08 PM
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Listening to Sean Hannity today, he says (in all sincerity-I think) that the economy today is nowere near as bad as the one Reagan inherited when he took office.

People's capacity for denial is beyond belief.


I don't know, Brofan. I'm not saying it is or it isn't, but if you look at the numbers that was a pretty bad economy. I guess it's hard to compare, but if inflation jacks up to 11% and unemployment about the same by tomorrow we would be able to tell how bad it was. The housing market would have trouble heating back up with 21% mortgages.

Of course it's convenient now to avoid talking about it, being that tax cuts spurred the recovery that time. And did we recover!

 

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  posted on 2/25/2009 at 10:59 PM
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Listening to Sean Hannity today, he says (in all sincerity-I think) that the economy today is nowere near as bad as the one Reagan inherited when he took office.

People's capacity for denial is beyond belief.


It was very very bad then. Very very bad. We will not know how bad this is until we see the ultimate fall out. It is bad enough. The only thing I can say to the people who lose their jobs is to not give up and not give in to despair. With life and health there is always hope. I know many stories of people who took the opportunity handed them by their misfortune to make career changes that ultimately worked out much better for them. I hope this can happen to some of the people who lose their livelihoods and I hope the storm passes quickly with minimal pain for everybody.

 

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  posted on 2/25/2009 at 11:00 PM
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Listening to Sean Hannity today, he says (in all sincerity-I think) that the economy today is nowere near as bad as the one Reagan inherited when he took office.

People's capacity for denial is beyond belief.


I don't know, Brofan. I'm not saying it is or it isn't, but if you look at the numbers that was a pretty bad economy. I guess it's hard to compare, but if inflation jacks up to 11% and unemployment about the same by tomorrow we would be able to tell how bad it was. The housing market would have trouble heating back up with 21% mortgages.

Of course it's convenient now to avoid talking about it, being that tax cuts spurred the recovery that time. And did we recover!


It took 6 years for the Reagan tax cuts to "turn the economy around" according to a guy who was on the show today.

We didn't have the massive number of foreclosures then nor the problem of almost non-existant credit. We also didn't have US corporations shipping jobs offshore gutting the middle class's earning power.

Numbers don't always tell the whole story.

 

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  posted on 2/25/2009 at 11:05 PM
I sure am sorry for everyone who has lost their job and also for those that must tell them. We've had some cuts where I work, and it really sucks. Hang in there, everybody.

 

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Listening to Sean Hannity today, he says (in all sincerity-I think) that the economy today is nowere near as bad as the one Reagan inherited when he took office.

People's capacity for denial is beyond belief.


I don't know, Brofan. I'm not saying it is or it isn't, but if you look at the numbers that was a pretty bad economy. I guess it's hard to compare, but if inflation jacks up to 11% and unemployment about the same by tomorrow we would be able to tell how bad it was. The housing market would have trouble heating back up with 21% mortgages.

Of course it's convenient now to avoid talking about it, being that tax cuts spurred the recovery that time. And did we recover!


It took 6 years for the Reagan tax cuts to "turn the economy around" according to a guy who was on the show today.

We didn't have the massive number of foreclosures then nor the problem of almost non-existant credit. We also didn't have US corporations shipping jobs offshore gutting the middle class's earning power.

Numbers don't always tell the whole story.



Well, maybe you're right. I'm not saying it's not bad now, because I know it is.

Forgot to mention this before. I'd also like to pass on best wishes, good luck and a "hang in there" to anybody that's had a job loss. Hope it's very temporary.

 

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Listening to Sean Hannity today, he says (in all sincerity-I think) that the economy today is nowere near as bad as the one Reagan inherited when he took office.

People's capacity for denial is beyond belief.


I don't know, Brofan. I'm not saying it is or it isn't, but if you look at the numbers that was a pretty bad economy. I guess it's hard to compare, but if inflation jacks up to 11% and unemployment about the same by tomorrow we would be able to tell how bad it was. The housing market would have trouble heating back up with 21% mortgages.

Of course it's convenient now to avoid talking about it, being that tax cuts spurred the recovery that time. And did we recover!


It took 6 years for the Reagan tax cuts to "turn the economy around" according to a guy who was on the show today.

We didn't have the massive number of foreclosures then nor the problem of almost non-existant credit. We also didn't have US corporations shipping jobs offshore gutting the middle class's earning power.

Numbers don't always tell the whole story.



Well, maybe you're right. I'm not saying it's not bad now, because I know it is.

Forgot to mention this before. I'd also like to pass on best wishes, good luck and a "hang in there" to anybody that's had a job loss. Hope it's very temporary.


I think we can all agree that anytime anyone loses a job, especially when it is for circumstances beyond their control and they have been doing a good job, like the guy in Droogie's office, and they have a wife, family, and a mortgage, it sucks. Bigtime.

 

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Listening to Sean Hannity today, he says (in all sincerity-I think) that the economy today is nowere near as bad as the one Reagan inherited when he took office.

People's capacity for denial is beyond belief.


I don't know, Brofan. I'm not saying it is or it isn't, but if you look at the numbers that was a pretty bad economy. I guess it's hard to compare, but if inflation jacks up to 11% and unemployment about the same by tomorrow we would be able to tell how bad it was. The housing market would have trouble heating back up with 21% mortgages.

Of course it's convenient now to avoid talking about it, being that tax cuts spurred the recovery that time. And did we recover!


It took 6 years for the Reagan tax cuts to "turn the economy around" according to a guy who was on the show today.

We didn't have the massive number of foreclosures then nor the problem of almost non-existant credit. We also didn't have US corporations shipping jobs offshore gutting the middle class's earning power.

Numbers don't always tell the whole story.



Well, maybe you're right. I'm not saying it's not bad now, because I know it is.

Forgot to mention this before. I'd also like to pass on best wishes, good luck and a "hang in there" to anybody that's had a job loss. Hope it's very temporary.


I think we can all agree that anytime anyone loses a job, especially when it is for circumstances beyond their control and they have been doing a good job, like the guy in Droogie's office, and they have a wife, family, and a mortgage, it sucks. Bigtime.


It is a bad deal. I felt sorry after making the comments I did originally. Doesn't belong on a thread like this. I feel terrible for anybody to lose their job and hope another door opens quickly.

 

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Listening to Sean Hannity today, he says (in all sincerity-I think) that the economy today is nowere near as bad as the one Reagan inherited when he took office.

People's capacity for denial is beyond belief.


I don't know, Brofan. I'm not saying it is or it isn't, but if you look at the numbers that was a pretty bad economy. I guess it's hard to compare, but if inflation jacks up to 11% and unemployment about the same by tomorrow we would be able to tell how bad it was. The housing market would have trouble heating back up with 21% mortgages.

Of course it's convenient now to avoid talking about it, being that tax cuts spurred the recovery that time. And did we recover!


It took 6 years for the Reagan tax cuts to "turn the economy around" according to a guy who was on the show today.

We didn't have the massive number of foreclosures then nor the problem of almost non-existant credit. We also didn't have US corporations shipping jobs offshore gutting the middle class's earning power.

Numbers don't always tell the whole story.



Well, maybe you're right. I'm not saying it's not bad now, because I know it is.

Forgot to mention this before. I'd also like to pass on best wishes, good luck and a "hang in there" to anybody that's had a job loss. Hope it's very temporary.


I think we can all agree that anytime anyone loses a job, especially when it is for circumstances beyond their control and they have been doing a good job, like the guy in Droogie's office, and they have a wife, family, and a mortgage, it sucks. Bigtime.


It is a bad deal. I felt sorry after making the comments I did originally. Doesn't belong on a thread like this. I feel terrible for anybody to lose their job and hope another door opens quickly.


No need to apologize. It is obvious that you are passionate about the country and we all want the same thing, for this sh!t to end and for everything to get back on the right track, however that happens.

 

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Listening to Sean Hannity today, he says (in all sincerity-I think) that the economy today is nowere near as bad as the one Reagan inherited when he took office.

People's capacity for denial is beyond belief.


It was very very bad then. Very very bad. We will not know how bad this is until we see the ultimate fall out. It is bad enough. The only thing I can say to the people who lose their jobs is to not give up and not give in to despair. With life and health there is always hope. I know many stories of people who took the opportunity handed them by their misfortune to make career changes that ultimately worked out much better for them. I hope this can happen to some of the people who lose their livelihoods and I hope the storm passes quickly with minimal pain for everybody.


Gotta agree the late 70's early 80's were a train wreck. But as Rich said this one has a couple of layers of other crap that makes it seem worse. Time will tell. Excuse my WP type comment but I don't think we will get out of this by spending more at the Government level.

 

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[Edited on 2/26/2009 by musicmann]

 

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  posted on 2/26/2009 at 10:37 AM
rush liimbaugh, the phat phuck, sez we should stop blaming bush now that Obama has been in office.

 

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  posted on 2/26/2009 at 10:40 AM
Best of luck and best wishes to anyone who has to go through that horrible experience.

 

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  posted on 2/26/2009 at 11:54 AM
We are letting an employee go today as well.

 

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