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  posted on 2/17/2009 at 03:32 PM
Clapton is god.

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  posted on 2/17/2009 at 03:45 PM
What harm is there in this speculation? What is the fascination with anybody being with the ABB at the Beacon? Because it's fun to dream? Because many here have seen some amazing players sit in during the Beacon shows? Because many enjoy EC and his music? Does it bother you or something?

 

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  posted on 2/17/2009 at 03:49 PM
I'm not gonna go all crazy over the fact that EC might be there.

BUT...I sure would like to be at that show if he does, because you know its gonna be fun. But then again all Beacon shows are fun!

See ya on the 14th...is it March yet folks?????

 

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What harm is there in this speculation? What is the fascination with anybody being with the ABB at the Beacon? Because it's fun to dream? Because many here have seen some amazing players sit in during the Beacon shows? Because many enjoy EC and his music? Does it bother you or something?





Sorry. Just having a little fun with the Clapton Is God thing. Actually I hope he does make it.

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  posted on 2/17/2009 at 03:53 PM
It's just nostalgia for EC to play with the brothers in memory of Duane. Duane was as responsible for the success of Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs as Clapton, himself, was.

 

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What harm is there in this speculation? What is the fascination with anybody being with the ABB at the Beacon? Because it's fun to dream? Because many here have seen some amazing players sit in during the Beacon shows? Because many enjoy EC and his music? Does it bother you or something?


Just having a little fun with the Clapton Is God thing.
Gotcha. I'm from those way back years so figured it was either a riff on that or another of the many bash posts I've read around here lately.

 

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  posted on 2/17/2009 at 03:54 PM
why wouldnt folks want to see clapton, if this is a tribute year for Duane, who can argue that some of both his and EC's best music was Derek/Dominoes. Who wouldnt want to hear those covers during the Beacon run?


 

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I'm not gonna go all crazy over the fact that EC might be there.

BUT...I sure would like to be at that show if he does, because you know its gonna be fun. But then again all Beacon shows are fun!
I would welcome this myself, also!

 

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  posted on 2/17/2009 at 04:02 PM
What's the fascination with EC being at The Beacon? It isn't like...

Well, I'll tell you what has me locked in. I was lucky enough to see and hear E.C. and Derek play together about two years ago. Absolutely blew me away. One can only imagine the musical magic we're in for when he takes the stage with the rest of the brothers.

When the show hits the vine page page, rest assured my name will be there.

 

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  posted on 2/17/2009 at 04:23 PM
I'll toss my .02, fwiw....
I made a post in the Duane thread, about a book I got for Christmas called The Missing Ring. It's focus is the 1966 Alabama football season, my freshman year there.
It's not so much about football as it is about the culture myself and Duane and Gregg grew up in. And how the team made people around the South feel like they weren't inferior to anybody. It validated their self-worth, for lack of a better phrase.

Layla served the same function. Go back and read the Rolling Stone piece that was put out near the time of Duane's passing. It's posted in the Duane forum.

This was so typical of the times. This is how we were treated, written about, dispariaged by the whole "hippy" community, and pretty much the rest of the nation. Mocked. Lied about. Degraded universally. Some was obviously justified by some of the actions of foolish people in positions of authority, but it didn't matter. We all were viewed through this lens. No matter what you did, who you were. It was all about where you were from.
I hate it with a passion to this day. Still won't watch movies like Forrest Gump and Talladega Nights, as I assume they perpetuate the stereotypes.

When Clapton brought Duane in to play on his signature accomplishment as a musician, and also his desperate cry to the most important thing in his world (Pattie), it was a form of validation in the minds of many from my culture. Made the statement that Duane was as good as anybody. Made the statement to the world. Very similar to what Coach Bryant's teams did during the same era. This is what I see in Clapton coming. Obviously, your mileage may vary.

 
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  posted on 2/17/2009 at 04:25 PM
How about setlist talk when Eric Clapton does sit in this year:

From Layla:
Layla
Anyday
Why Does Love Got to Be So Sad

But what about from the ABB catalogue:

I would love to hear EC on:
Stormy Monday
Liz Reed
Mountain Jam

 

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  posted on 2/17/2009 at 04:29 PM
^^^

along those lines,
Please Be With Me and Mean Old World would be a cool, imo

[Edited on 2/17/2009 by stormyrider]

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along those lines,
Please Be With Me and Mean Old World would be a cool, imo



YES YES YES!!

 

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  posted on 2/17/2009 at 04:46 PM
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I'll toss my .02, fwiw....
I made a post in the Duane thread, about a book I got for Christmas called The Missing Ring. It's focus is the 1966 Alabama football season, my freshman year there.
It's not so much about football as it is about the culture myself and Duane and Gregg grew up in. And how the team made people around the South feel like they weren't inferior to anybody. It validated their self-worth, for lack of a better phrase.

Layla served the same function. Go back and read the Rolling Stone piece that was put out near the time of Duane's passing. It's posted in the Duane forum.

This was so typical of the times. This is how we were treated, written about, dispariaged by the whole "hippy" community, and pretty much the rest of the nation. Mocked. Lied about. Degraded universally. Some was obviously justified by some of the actions of foolish people in positions of authority, but it didn't matter. We all were viewed through this lens. No matter what you did, who you were. It was all about where you were from.
I hate it with a passion to this day. Still won't watch movies like Forrest Gump and Talladega Nights, as I assume they perpetuate the stereotypes.

When Clapton brought Duane in to play on his signature accomplishment as a musician, and also his desperate cry to the most important thing in his world (Pattie), it was a form of validation in the minds of many from my culture. Made the statement that Duane was as good as anybody. Made the statement to the world. Very similar to what Coach Bryant's teams did during the same era. This is what I see in Clapton coming. Obviously, your mileage may vary.


Randy, I'm sure you have already read it, but a lot of these same cultural issues were addressed in Mark Kemp's book, Dixie Lullaby. Although it contains some factual errors (like identifying Paul Hornsby as the guitar player in the Hourglass) it is a very good book-since I didn't grow up in the South I can't comment on its validity but a lot of the reviews on amazon seem to say it is spot on. I'd be interested to hear any opinions from HTW'ers.

Thank God we've moved beyond those stereotypes.

Now you've got Yankees like me moving South because it's the place to be!

 

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  posted on 2/17/2009 at 04:47 PM
OMG! Claptons gonna be at the Beacon?!?!?! I need to go start a thread in Rumours...

 

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  posted on 2/17/2009 at 04:59 PM
The EC rumor has gone around for years, so I am not going to hold my breath (although this year sounds like it MAY happen...who knows)...I like my ABB straight w/ no chaser, but that's not what the Beacon run is about. That's more like Summer Tour...

I like to think about the "wildcards" that can show up...(ie Carmine Appice when Heavan and Hell were in town, Bernie Williams?!, etc...)...

Did some research and here are some of the folks playing in NYC during the time of the run...Fleetwood Mac?, Edgar Winter?, Britney Spears? Pussycat Dolls? Pogues? Motley Crue??!! (actually, I am seeing them on the 16th....how about Tommy Lee on drums!!!)

 

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The EC rumor has gone around for years, so I am not going to hold my breath (although this year sounds like it MAY happen...who knows)...I like my ABB straight w/ no chaser, but that's not what the Beacon run is about. That's more like Summer Tour...

I like to think about the "wildcards" that can show up...(ie Carmine Appice when Heavan and Hell were in town, Bernie Williams?!, etc...)...

Did some research and here are some of the folks playing in NYC during the time of the run...Fleetwood Mac?, Edgar Winter?, Britney Spears? Pussycat Dolls? Pogues? Motley Crue??!! (actually, I am seeing them on the 16th ....how about Tommy Lee on drums!!!)


How about Pamela Anderson on background vocals? She certainly has the lungs for it...

 

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How about Pamela Anderson on background vocals? She certainly has the lungs for it...
She's supposed to play Flight of the Bumble Bee on the meat whistle.

 

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Did some research and here are some of the folks playing in NYC during the time of the run...Fleetwood Mac?,


Lindsey Buckingham is about the LAST person I could fathom being able to fit in with the ABB. He has no "jamming" ability whatsoever...he'd have to rehearse with them for two weeks playing the material exactly the same way each time or he'd be lost. Now, Mick Fleetwood & John McVie...maybe...but I think their "jam" chops have probably atrophied considerably since Peter Green & Danny Kirwan left. Since Buckingham joined the band, they play all their material exactly the same every night of a tour with VERY little change. (even the extended instrumental breaks, like in Lindsey's tour-de-force "I'm So Afraid", are over-rehearsed)

 
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I'll toss my .02, fwiw....
I made a post in the Duane thread, about a book I got for Christmas called The Missing Ring. It's focus is the 1966 Alabama football season, my freshman year there.
It's not so much about football as it is about the culture myself and Duane and Gregg grew up in. And how the team made people around the South feel like they weren't inferior to anybody. It validated their self-worth, for lack of a better phrase.

Layla served the same function. Go back and read the Rolling Stone piece that was put out near the time of Duane's passing. It's posted in the Duane forum.

This was so typical of the times. This is how we were treated, written about, dispariaged by the whole "hippy" community, and pretty much the rest of the nation. Mocked. Lied about. Degraded universally. Some was obviously justified by some of the actions of foolish people in positions of authority, but it didn't matter. We all were viewed through this lens. No matter what you did, who you were. It was all about where you were from.
I hate it with a passion to this day. Still won't watch movies like Forrest Gump and Talladega Nights, as I assume they perpetuate the stereotypes.

When Clapton brought Duane in to play on his signature accomplishment as a musician, and also his desperate cry to the most important thing in his world (Pattie), it was a form of validation in the minds of many from my culture. Made the statement that Duane was as good as anybody. Made the statement to the world. Very similar to what Coach Bryant's teams did during the same era. This is what I see in Clapton coming. Obviously, your mileage may vary.


Randy, I'm sure you have already read it, but a lot of these same cultural issues were addressed in Mark Kemp's book, Dixie Lullaby. Although it contains some factual errors (like identifying Paul Hornsby as the guitar player in the Hourglass) it is a very good book-since I didn't grow up in the South I can't comment on its validity but a lot of the reviews on amazon seem to say it is spot on. I'd be interested to hear any opinions from HTW'ers.

Thank God we've moved beyond those stereotypes.

Now you've got Yankees like me moving South because it's the place to be!


And we love having you and the rest of them, Rich. I know I run this in the ground, and you would think I would be past it by now. But then I see the RS article in the Duane forum, and it opens the wounds right back up again. I travelled in the North in 1963 and 1964, dealt with it firsthand as a 15-16 year old. And you're right, it has changed.
Pretty much came to an end with Carter's election. But it's still out there in many minds.
I believe it's the fundamental reason Duane has never been recognized in his rightful place in the various "History of Rock and Roll"-type documentaries and books.

Clapton saw him as a musician, and as a musician only. Recognized his talents. Made full use of them. And created what is still considered his masterpiece. I hope, if he does come to the Beacon, a few media and other types will look in to the connection--why he's there. And make a new generation aware of Duane's work.

 
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  posted on 2/17/2009 at 06:34 PM
Many years ago I saw Clapton play with Roger Waters on the Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking tour - the 2nd half of the show they did Pink Floyd songs - and Clapton on Money was really different - and good......

[Edited on 2/18/2009 by Sang]

 

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I got it. Maybe you needed the little dog at the bottom of the picture.
 

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  posted on 2/17/2009 at 06:53 PM
Would like to have them play Poor Elijah with Eric. If Bonnie could be there with her vocals it would be perfect.

 

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  posted on 2/17/2009 at 09:30 PM

Clapton Isn't God.
But he Is Really Damn Good!

 

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  posted on 2/17/2009 at 09:45 PM
Clapton was god... WARREN IS GOD now!!!

 

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