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  posted on 2/8/2009 at 11:32 PM
Did anyone get to see these guys play? Whatever happened to this band?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRI5RSBvqqo

I would gladly pay to see this band today!

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  posted on 2/9/2009 at 06:45 AM
I remember seeing them at the old Wetlands Preserve down by the Holland Tunnel. God, I loved that place. Spent many a happy night there. Actually Warren did the last gig there. They had a whole string of big shows scheduled before the closure, like Ratdog, but then 9-11 hit and the Wetlands just quietly shutdown without the big "closing" shows ever happening.

Anyway, I saw Frogwings both with and without John Popper as vocalist.

 

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  posted on 2/9/2009 at 08:32 AM
went and saw them on their initial tour with Edwin McCain.

Went to the box office and they gave me the ticket.
Turned into a free show at Phily's TLA.

there were maybe 30 - 40 people there

good show though

 

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  posted on 2/9/2009 at 09:58 AM
The Sweatlands! Saw Merle Saunders there, great show, and a very sweaty Mick Taylor also
 

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  posted on 2/9/2009 at 10:38 AM
Saw them Dec 1997 with Edwin McCain and it was an amazing night of music. McCain fit them very well, but his record company didn't like him involved.

 

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  posted on 2/9/2009 at 10:58 AM
Never saw them live, but I do own the "Croakin' at Toads" CD and like it very much.

 

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  posted on 2/9/2009 at 11:00 AM
Early 1998, Ivory Tusk, Tuscaloosa, with McCain. My first introduction to Herring.
Incredible show. Music like I thought I'd never hear live in my lifetime.

Somebody put out handbills on cars as far away as Gadsden. Which led to a packed--and I mean packed--house. Extremely cold too. But not inside. Smokin'!

 
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  posted on 2/9/2009 at 11:06 AM
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I remember seeing them at the old Wetlands Preserve down by the Holland Tunnel. God, I loved that place. Spent many a happy night there. Actually Warren did the last gig there. They had a whole string of big shows scheduled before the closure, like Ratdog, but then 9-11 hit and the Wetlands just quietly shutdown without the big "closing" shows ever happening.

Anyway, I saw Frogwings both with and without John Popper as vocalist.


The Wetlands was a very special place. Much missed

 

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  posted on 2/9/2009 at 11:21 AM
Frog Wings at Wanee 2009!!!! Make it happen!!!

 

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  posted on 2/9/2009 at 11:48 AM
I saw them on their first two tours in 1997 with Edwin McCain singing. The first one, at Smith's Olde Bar, I'm pretty sure exceeded fire code capacity. I've never seen Smith's so full in my life, and I've been to other "sold out" shows there. I preferred McCain to Popper anyway, and besides, I don't think they toured in the South after Popper replaced him. I think those last 2 or 3 tours with Popper were all in the Northeast. I imagine Edwin McCain is no longer with the same record label, so hopefully they could get him if they ever re-launch the band, even if only a one-off for Wanee 2009.

The first tour in May 1997 had a bit of a different lineup. Other than Edwin McCain, Count M'Butu played percussion instead of (or in addition to??) Marc Quinones. They also had a different keyboard player, whose name escapes me, but my recollection is that it's very similar name as the keyboard player for Widespread Panic. I want to say it was Jonah Herman, and a lot of people thought it was JoJo from Panic.

 

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  posted on 2/9/2009 at 11:53 AM
I was at those wetlands shows in early 99. They were great. Looking back on that band, it seems to me that Butch might of been grooming Derek to play with him and Otiel and a second guitarist. At this point, JP was still in the ABB it might have been known that 99 would be his last Beacon run. Even then, I don't think Derek needed any special grooming but I never saw Butch play in a small club again after that. I listened to the CD recently and didn't like it as much as the experience. Just lots of jamming. Especially with Popper, it can get a bit redundant. This was also the first time I saw Kofi play. I recall talking to him a bit in the famous downstairs lounge of the wetlands.

98-2001 or so was really special with all the off shoot bands of the ABB playing really small places. Otiel with Soul live in the basement of a bar on 2nd ave really stands out in my mind from this era. The DTB at Wetlands after the final show of the beacon run in 2000,everyone B-lining it down town from the beacon. Blue Floyd playing Dark Side of the Moon in front of a Screen playing Wizard of OZ and the big sh*t eating grin on Woody's face as he turned around to see the credits of the movie rolling as they ended Eclipse.

Blue Floyd, the Mule, DTB, all playing the Bottom Line, Wetlands, brew pubs on LI and NJ. It was a fantastic time. Casually chatting with Woody or Marc Ford etc.. I think it's a mix of me being 10 years older and NYC live music and night life venues really being clamped down upon but things just don't seem as much fun as they were back then.

I saw the Screaming Cheetah Wheelies the Saturday Night before 9-11 at Wetlands. I'm glad my last show there was by such a rocking band. I definitely closed out that place on a high note. Too bad such lows would follow in just a few days but that's a whole different thread.


 

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  posted on 2/9/2009 at 12:41 PM
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Frog Wings at Wanee 2009!!!! Make it happen!!!


agreed - i thought that this may have happend at the first wanee at the late night set. it turned out to be just another john popper set. i guess everyone was too cold.

 

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  posted on 2/9/2009 at 02:07 PM
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Just lots of jamming. Especially with Popper, it can get a bit redundant. This was also the first time I saw Kofi play.


Agreed. And I don't mean it as a knock on Popper, but it was just one too many soloists in the band. That's part of the reason I liked Edwin McCain better in that band. He knew to get out of the way. Popper took away some of the jam time from Jimmy & Derek (I'm admittedly a guitar freak, so biased), but also the harp is in the same register as the keys/flute and I thought he really got in Kofi's way, particularly with the "rhythm harp" when the others were soloing. It made it tough to hear what Kofi was doing underneath the other soloists - and that's some of Kofi's best work (and oft-overlooked). I also liked the songs better with McCain. Popper did bring a few new tunes to the band, but I thought he butchered the songs that the band had done with McCain that Popper re-wrote the lyrics to. "Ganja" was one of the worst of the re-writes of McCain's tunes.

 

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  posted on 2/9/2009 at 02:19 PM
I also saw the Frog Wings shows at Smith's, The Douglas Theatre (it was the opening show after the renovation) I guess you could call it the grand re-opening of The Douglas Theatre. It is/was one of the oldest black theatres in the country. They also did a gig at the old Cotton Club in Atlanta. These three shows were Edwin shows and they were very, very good. These shows were the first shows and the ones with John Popper would follow later. I have some film footage of the Smith's show and a little footage of the show at the Douglas Theatre. The Douglas Theatre show was filmed and the Derek Trucks Band also opened for them. I know Jeff Sipe was at the Smith's show but he did not play. I even have a Frog Wings T shirt!

Edwin was a pretty funny guy, he had me LMAO, the best one is talking about where the egg comes out of a chicken, funny stuff. Someone also had a camera at the Cotton Club show. I will try to find my T shirt and post a pic.



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  posted on 2/9/2009 at 02:44 PM
I saw them at toads place in new haven 10 years ago they were great!, I don't care for popper though.
 

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  posted on 2/9/2009 at 04:08 PM
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went and saw them on their initial tour with Edwin McCain.

Went to the box office and they gave me the ticket.
Turned into a free show at Phily's TLA.

there were maybe 30 - 40 people there

good show though


lonomon, I was at that show as well. Great time. They came back to the TLA, my buddy and I, remebering the sparse crowd, waited for the day of, unfortunately Popper was on board at this time and the show was sold out. We had a backpack full of beer and head full of colors, so we chilled in the back alley, stared at the ceramic mosaics, met the band as they piled out of a small chevette, and listened to the muffled sounds of the concert. Still one of my favorite memories!

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  posted on 2/9/2009 at 06:08 PM
I got so many frickin' frogs all over my house.........ribbit ribbit.

I wish they still toured >it would be complicated but so is most everything else.

Derek & Herring in a core jazz mode with The Chief on the skins............the The Q bangin' next to him..........yeow.

leaving Popper out of it........a good suggestion.







 

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  posted on 2/9/2009 at 07:55 PM
really enjoyed reading this thread
big fan of the band
why did they stop playing with edwin
WANEE 2009

 

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  posted on 2/9/2009 at 09:45 PM
Wish i had seen them live--Have Croakin at Toads and a show with McCain--prefer the mccain lineup-WISH they would do a show--some incredible music from DT, herring and Kofi
 
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  posted on 2/9/2009 at 10:20 PM
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went and saw them on their initial tour with Edwin McCain.

Went to the box office and they gave me the ticket.
Turned into a free show at Phily's TLA.

there were maybe 30 - 40 people there
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i was also at this show. had a great time, and got to meet everyone that night. i knew Edwin from his days of playing a few bars in South Carolina in the early 90s. have a bunch of great pictures somewhere from that show ( need to dig those up ). had so much fun at this show, and everyone in the band was very accessible that night, pictures, or just having a great conversation.

almost forgot about this until this thread came up. thanks.

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  posted on 2/10/2009 at 09:00 AM
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They wanted to record, and McCain's label wouldn't let him record for a different band/label. Keep in mind this was when he was at a commercial peak with "I'll Be" etc. and I imagine his record company wanted to cash in on his popularity. Can't blame them really - that's what record labels are in business to do. But I imagine since his popularity has waned since then, and he's probably not on the same label anymore anyway, that he probably could do it again if the stars aligned in everyone's schedules.

 

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  posted on 2/10/2009 at 10:17 AM
this thread reminds me its been 10 years since the 30th anniv.
where does the time go??

 

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  posted on 2/10/2009 at 11:10 AM
Here is the picture of my T shirt......sorry it did not out very well, but you get the idea.

 

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