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  posted on 2/8/2009 at 10:32 AM
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Have some good singles that I can no longer use..the price is what TM charged me
3/16-Seat location: section ORCH, row C, seat 27
Total Charge: US $ 174.34


I still find it staggering that the ABB/TM/Beacon are charging $175 for the same seat we paid $75 for five years ago. Tha'ts a 26% increase per year. I doubt anyone's income or cost of living has gone up like that. Honestly, I can afford to go to 3 shows like I always did. But it's just ridiculous for my wife & I to pay $350 for 1st 10th row tickets, $100 for dinner, $40 for parking, $50 for drinks for a 3 hour show. I've got a job but don't know if I'll have one in 6 months. That $550-$600 is best kept in the bank these days.

I'm thinking to wait a day or 2 before the show we want to go to (besides the 3/13 we did buy for) and the scalpers will be liquidating at or below cost. I think it will be like Circuit City or Fortunoffs.

 

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  posted on 2/8/2009 at 10:48 AM
You can always go see Dickey Betts & Great Southern for usually less than $50.00.

 

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  posted on 2/8/2009 at 10:51 AM
I remember thinking I was paying out the ass back when I first went to the beacon in 97 2 nights $45.00 each night.

Seriously it bugs me too but I know someday when I'm older I'd pay way more than now to see the brothers one more time.

 

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  posted on 2/8/2009 at 11:16 AM
Concert tickets have risen far beyond any reasonable inflation rate. Not so suprisingly, attendance of live shows has dropped off by a huge percentage also. Wonder why?

 

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  posted on 2/8/2009 at 11:41 AM
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You can always go see Dickey Betts & Great Southern for usually less than $50.00.


Dickey gets $90 at the Ridegfield Playhouse, near where I live. Great place to see a band but $90's a bit steep for a show that may or may not be great depending on the night. We caught Railroad Earth there 2 weeks ago for $30. To say that was a great value is a huge understatement. They're playing for $17 in Burlington, VT in 2 weeks. Hello ski weekend!

 

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  posted on 2/8/2009 at 11:53 AM
MOOGIS!

 

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  posted on 2/8/2009 at 11:57 AM
Face value for tickets for the 1983 Super Bowl were $40. This year's game the FV was either $600 or $800. I imagine the $600 was for bench seating only. There are all sorts of reasons for the increase in entertainment but at the very least, it's all getting out of control IMO.

I'm not surprised. If the ABB makes it out west this year, I wonder what they'll charge. The last time was 2005 and I think the price was $60.

 

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  posted on 2/8/2009 at 01:34 PM
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I still find it staggering that the ABB/TM/Beacon are charging $175 for the same seat we paid $75 for five years ago.
First off - does that $75 pricetag include TM and service charges? Secondly, I too find 175 high for concert tickets - won't pay it. I don't think that this is an ABB/Beacon only thing. I've noticed many bands setting up a 'golden circle' area with higher than normal ticket prices. I just avoid and do like I did for Beacon this year - go for 'also good' $100 seats (personal cap set at around 100 for concerts and it's just a principle thing for me). This price is consistent with all prices I've paid lately for similar entertainment - Neil Young, Roger Waters, Van Morrison are recent concerts that I've purchased tickets to - all at around that same $ amount. I also found it staggering that I was paying $4 for a gallon of gas for awhile - substantial increase from what I paid 5 years ago. Sad sign of the times I guess...

 

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  posted on 2/8/2009 at 06:20 PM
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I still find it staggering that the ABB/TM/Beacon are charging $175 for the same seat we paid $75 for five years ago.
First off - does that $75 pricetag include TM and service charges? Secondly, I too find 175 high for concert tickets - won't pay it. I don't think that this is an ABB/Beacon only thing. I've noticed many bands setting up a 'golden circle' area with higher than normal ticket prices. I just avoid and do like I did for Beacon this year - go for 'also good' $100 seats (personal cap set at around 100 for concerts and it's just a principle thing for me). This price is consistent with all prices I've paid lately for similar entertainment - Neil Young, Roger Waters, Van Morrison are recent concerts that I've purchased tickets to - all at around that same $ amount. I also found it staggering that I was paying $4 for a gallon of gas for awhile - substantial increase from what I paid 5 years ago. Sad sign of the times I guess...


Yes, the TM charges were included in both prices. The problem with the $100 seats is that they also include not so good seats and most of the good seats usually get snagged by the scalper computers. I'll pay $40-50 for scrub seats but that's about it. Looking at The Dead tix for Nassau Coliseum is another joke. They want the same price for excellent floor seats that they do for top section nose bleeds, $100 + TM. Are they kidding? $100 and no Jerry?

I'm just about done with corporate concerts. There are too many great bands to see in clubs that blow me away for $20-50. Even Derek is starting to get too pricey.

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  posted on 2/8/2009 at 06:33 PM
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I'm just about done with corporate concerts. There are too many great bands to see in clubs that blow me away for $20-50. Even Derek is starting to get too pricey.



A combination of factors will have many follow your lead. Economy, internet and changing music industry. I look forward to it because I believe more bars/clubs will feature bands. Local scenes will flourish and more acts will get signed for playing well than for having the right hair and makeup.

Fingers crossed anyway.

 

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  posted on 2/8/2009 at 07:18 PM
My total for three seats in the lodge was 347.00. That's a lot of bread. I tried complaining when the tickets breached 100.00. I can always sell em' in the spare ticket forum.
In the bands defense, a Broadway show in NYC will set you back 100 bucks a ticket. I love Manhattan, but every damn thing there is gotten way too expensive. I could tell stories about the great times and shows I've been to in NYC that would take hours.(14th St. Academy of Music, The Beacon, The Bottom Line, the list goes on...and @ 5 bucks a ticket you could afford dinner and drinks..and a quality smoke for after dinner before the show...)
I look at the bright side. By March of 2010 I might be in a breadline or a FEMA camp. I say enjoy 1 show while I still can. I know I can't afford it, but by next year maybe a loaf of bread will cost a yard, know what I'm sayin'?

 

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  posted on 2/8/2009 at 07:23 PM
I've noticed many bands setting up a 'golden circle' area with higher than normal ticket prices

AT LEAST THE BAND GETS THE MONEY RATHER THAN THE SCALPERS. UNTIL SCALPING IS ILLEGAL THE BEST CASE SCENARIO IS FOR THE BAND TO SELL THOSE TICKETS AT EXACTLY YHE PRICE THE PUBLIC WILL BEAR. THEN, THEY WON'T CHANGE HANDS FOR A PROFIT

 

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  posted on 2/8/2009 at 07:27 PM
I wouldn't complain about the ticket prices. I couldn't afford the airfare, hotel, meals and booze this year. If I could have, I'd have paid anything for tix.
 

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  posted on 2/8/2009 at 08:41 PM
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I've noticed many bands setting up a 'golden circle' area with higher than normal ticket prices

AT LEAST THE BAND GETS THE MONEY RATHER THAN THE SCALPERS. UNTIL SCALPING IS ILLEGAL THE BEST CASE SCENARIO IS FOR THE BAND TO SELL THOSE TICKETS AT EXACTLY YHE PRICE THE PUBLIC WILL BEAR. THEN, THEY WON'T CHANGE HANDS FOR A PROFIT


So the band screws you instead of the scalpers. Still costs the same or even more.

 

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  posted on 2/8/2009 at 08:51 PM
As much as we want to think they are altruitic, they are out to make money. So much less is made via selling music due to illegal downloading. I'd still rather see the band make the money that a scalper. At least they earn it.

Broadway does this with "premium" tickets. I'd never pay 350 for a show; some people don't. When they don't sell they lower the price at the last minute. Again, better the creative people get paid than the hangers-on

 

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  posted on 2/8/2009 at 09:01 PM
I look at it this way-
I'm paying 25 + fees to see Derek
paid 35 + fees for Mule-O Ween
40 + fees for Trey
50 + fees for Allmans, Dead PSU
I'll probably see the Allmans at Great Woods this year, expect it will be around 60
jazz shows typically run 25-45 for top name performers

plenty of great music out there for a reasonable price.

Van, Neil Young, etc - charge 100 or 150 + if you want, I'll let someone else pay it.

 

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  posted on 2/8/2009 at 09:06 PM
It really has gotten out of hand. That's no secret to anyone, but it's obvious that as long as we (live music fans) continue to pay the prices nothing will change. I do find it interesting that most of the bands that we (on this site) complain about are those WELL along in their careers. Maybe it's kind of like Robert Plant getting a grammy tonight, all that money they are asking is for "a body of work" and not just for that one show you're paying for. It is what it is, and it's really nothing new. Back around 1985/86 my season Philadelphia 76er tickets went up to $17.50 each from $12.50 two years eariler when they won the NBA Championship, and after 10 years I finally said that's ridiculous. No one is going to pay that kind of money to see a basketball game. Now those same seats (granted it's 20+ years later) are going for $175 or more. As The Jam once sang, "That's Entertainment".
 

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  posted on 2/8/2009 at 09:09 PM
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It really has gotten out of hand. That's no secret to anyone, but it's obvious that as long as we (live music fans) continue to pay the prices nothing will change.
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Um....I think they call this the Law of Supply and Demand....

 

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  posted on 2/8/2009 at 09:14 PM
Brofan and the law.....something doesn't feel right here.......

 

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  posted on 2/8/2009 at 09:41 PM
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It really has gotten out of hand. That's no secret to anyone, but it's obvious that as long as we (live music fans) continue to pay the prices nothing will change.
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Um....I think they call this the Law of Supply and Demand....


bingo. maybe if enough people complain about ticket prices for long enough Obama will come up with a Concertgoer Bailout Plan.

 

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  posted on 2/9/2009 at 08:03 AM
ridiculous

 

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  posted on 2/9/2009 at 08:34 AM
On a lighter note.....damn! That is a good seat!!!

 

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  posted on 2/9/2009 at 09:41 AM
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It really has gotten out of hand. That's no secret to anyone, but it's obvious that as long as we (live music fans) continue to pay the prices nothing will change.
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Um....I think they call this the Law of Supply and Demand....


That is where the problem lies actually. Attendance and the concert industry in general is way down. Following all other products and logic, the prices should be going down and not up. the old guys won't care because this is all cash in before retiring but the mid to younger bands will all suffer from it. Attendance will continue to drop as people spend there money elsewhere or other entertainment or see cheaper local acts.

 

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  posted on 2/9/2009 at 09:44 AM
All I can say is I spent $36 ($13 of that Ticketbastard fees) to see NMAS Saturday night and they played about 3-1/2 hours between the Hill Country Review and NMAS. Best $36 I spent in a long time........

 

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All I can say is I spent $36 ($13 of that Ticketbastard fees) to see NMAS Saturday night and they played about 3-1/2 hours between the Hill Country Review and NMAS. Best $36 I spent in a long time........


I bet.

 

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