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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 11:03 AM
Someone sent this to me, I am just the messenger, but I thought it was pretty funny and creative...

I have a Logic Question:

-Hurricane Katrina displaced many New Orleans residents, many of whom were Black Americans. Lack of food, clean water and shelter threatened their lives.-President Bush was late in assessing the magnitude of the event and sending relief.-Kanye West says on National television - "George Bush hates Black People"-Every media outlet picks up the story and plays Kanye's comments over and over and over again.-Hollywood stars like Aschton Kutscher and Demi Moore jump on the bandwagon and attack President Bush, vowing this lack of response never to happen again.-John Travolta loads up his 747 with volunteers and assists in the relief effort

Roll the tape forward -Historic ice storms in the midwest leave a million people without electricity for several weeks. Many in the midwest use electricity to heat their homes. This winter has been one of the coldest on record. -Lack of federal response have left a million without water (wells run on electricity) and heat, many have died as a result.-Several weeks after the event, 100,000 are still without electricity in Kentucky and Arkansas.-The areas that lack power are predominantly white.-No hollywood stars have spoken of this event- or done anything - including Demi Moore and her boy toy, who vowed never to let this happen again.-President Obama has organized no help.-The media has not covered the story


Can I then assume President Obama hates White People?

 
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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 11:08 AM
Troublemaker!

Don't you know nobody wants to hear this on the Whipping Post?

What are you, some kind of troll?

But your logic is flawless!

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Roll the tape forward -Historic ice storms in the midwest leave a million people without electricity for several weeks. Many in the midwest use electricity to heat their homes. This winter has been one of the coldest on record. -Lack of federal response have left a million without water (wells run on electricity) and heat, many have died as a result.-Several weeks after the event, 100,000 are still without electricity in Kentucky and Arkansas.-The areas that lack power are predominantly white.-No hollywood stars have spoken of this event- or done anything - including Demi Moore and her boy toy, who vowed never to let this happen again.-President Obama has organized no help.-


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Wednesday, January 28th, 2009 at 12:00 am
President Obama Speaks with Governors Beebe and Beshear; Signs Emergency Declarations for Arkansas and Kentucky
THE WHITE HOUSE

Office of the Press Secretary
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For Immediate Release

January 28, 2009


Earlier this evening President Obama made phone calls to Arkansas Governor Mike Beebe and Kentucky Governor Steve Beshear about the severe winter storm in both states. The President asked the governors for updates on the situation in their states and for the status of emergency response efforts. He informed both governors that he would be signing their requests for federal aid and would declare federal emergencies in both Arkansas and Kentucky. The President signed the declarations shortly after the calls. A photo will be uploaded to www.whitehouse.gov. Information specific to each state follows.



ARKANSAS

The President tonight declared an emergency exists in the State of Arkansas and ordered Federal aid to supplement State and local response efforts in the area struck by a severe winter storm beginning on January 26, 2009, and continuing.

The President's action authorizes the Department of Homeland Security, Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), to coordinate all disaster relief efforts which have the purpose of alleviating the hardship and suffering caused by the emergency on the local population, and to provide appropriate assistance for required emergency measures, authorized under Title V of the Stafford Act, to save lives and to protect property and public health and safety, and to lessen or avert the threat of a catastrophe in the counties of Baxter, Benton, Boone, Carroll, Clay, Cleburne, Conway, Craighead, Crawford, Crittenden, Cross, Faulkner, Franklin, Fulton, Garland, Greene, Independence, Izard, Jackson, Johnson, Lawrence, Logan, Lonoke, Madison, Marion, Mississippi, Monroe, Montgomery, Newton, Perry, Poinsett, Polk, Pope, Prairie, Pulaski, Randolph, St. Francis, Saline, Scott, Searcy, Sebastian, Sharp, Stone, Van Buren, Washington, White, Woodruff, and Yell.

Specifically, FEMA is authorized to identify, mobilize, and provide at its discretion, equipment and resources necessary to alleviate the impacts of the emergency. Emergency protective measures, limited to direct Federal assistance, will be provided at 75 percent Federal funding.

Nancy Ward, Acting Administrator, Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), Department of Homeland Security, named W. Michael Moore as the Federal Coordinating Officer for Federal recovery operations in the affected area.


KENTUCKY

The President tonight also declared an emergency exists in the Commonwealth of Kentucky and ordered Federal aid to supplement Commonwealth and local response efforts in the area struck by a severe winter storm beginning on January 27, 2009, and continuing.

The President's action authorizes the Department of Homeland Security, Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), to coordinate all disaster relief efforts which have the purpose of alleviating the hardship and suffering caused by the emergency on the local population, and to provide appropriate assistance for required emergency measures, authorized under Title V of the Stafford Act, to save lives and to protect property and public health and safety, and to lessen or avert the threat of a catastrophe in the counties of Allen, Anderson, Barren, Bath, Boyd, Boyle, Breathitt, Breckinridge, Butler, Caldwell, Calloway, Carlisle, Clark, Crittenden, Daviess, Edmonson, Elliott, Estill, Fayette, Floyd, Fulton, Garrard, Graves, Grayson, Hardin, Harrison, Hart, Hickman, Hopkins, Jackson, Jessamine, Johnson, Larue, Lincoln, Logan, Lyon, Madison, Magoffin, Marion, Marshall, Mason, McCracken, Meade, Mercer, Metcalfe, Morgan, Muhlenberg, Nelson, Nicholas, Ohio, Owsley, Perry, Powell, Shelby, Todd, Trigg, Union, Washington, Webster, Wolfe, and Woodford.

Specifically, FEMA is authorized to identify, mobilize, and provide at its discretion, equipment and resources necessary to alleviate the impacts of the emergency. Emergency protective measures, limited to direct Federal assistance, will be provided at 75 percent Federal funding.

Nancy Ward, Acting Administrator, Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), Department of Homeland Security, named Kim R. Kadesch as the Federal Coordinating Officer for Federal recovery operations in the affected area.

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: FEMA (202) 646-4600.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/PresidentObamaSpeakswithGovernor sBeebeandBeshearSignsEmergencyDeclarationsforArkansasandKentucky/







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Federal Aid Continues To Support Kentucky Ice Storm
Release Date: February 3, 2009
Release Number: 3302-005

Ľ More Information on Kentucky Severe Winter Storm


ATLANTA, Ga. -- Food, water and industrial generators, help with downed communications systems and other assistance flows into Kentucky as the result of coordination by the commonwealth, the Federal Emergency Management Agency and other federal partners.

FEMA and the Kentucky Division of Emergency Management are working to meet the emergency needs of the people of Kentucky in 93 counties. Monday night, 32 Kentucky counties were added to the Jan. 28 federal emergency declaration that initially covered 61 counties.

"With 93 counties now under this emergency declaration, we have more help on the way," said Gen. John W. Heltzel, director of Kentuckyís Division of Emergency Management. "With the help from our partners, we will continue to address state and local needs to help the people of Kentucky, while we work with FEMA on the next step of assessing damages."

The mobilization of support, including assistance from emergency management teams in Mississippi and Tennessee, follows a week of winter storms that have crippled most of the commonwealth. Thousands of Kentuckians are in temporary shelters, taking refuge from homes without electrical power.

"We continue to move aggressively to help Kentuckians through this emergency," FEMA Regional Administrator Phil May said. "Hundreds of federal personnel deployed to Kentucky are working closely with emergency management and local officials to assist in life-sustaining efforts. We will continue to do whatever it takes to get the people of Kentucky the help they need," May said.

A brief overview of assistance to date:

Commodities. To date, the response has delivered 40 truckloads of water and more than 25 truckloads of meals. FEMA is currently processing additional requests for food and water amounting to 105,000 liters of water per day and 65,000 meals per day.
Communications. Three of FEMAís Mobile Emergency Response Units (MERS), which began providing critical telecommunications support hours after the storm, are stationed at emergency operations centers in Frankfort, Paducah, Greenville and Fort Campbell. They are providing satellite phones and other technical equipment to help emergency first responders communicate.
Power Support. Industrial generators of various sizes and capacities are in Kentucky to help power critical facilities. The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers has brought in additional teams in order to speed up generator installation.
Health and Safety. U.S. Department of Health and Human Services teams will be visiting 13 counties designated by the Commonwealth of Kentucky, to conduct community health assessments. They will measure and identify public health and medical issues that may affect communities as a whole. Results will be provided to state and local public health officials and emergency managers for needed disaster response support.
Kentucky Gov. Steve Beshear has asked FEMA to conduct damage assessments. The governor also has asked President Obama for a major disaster declaration to increase the level of federal assistance for emergency protective measures and debris removal.

FEMA leads and supports the nation in a risk-based, comprehensive emergency management system of preparedness, protection, response, recovery, and mitigation, to reduce the loss of life and property and protect the nation from all hazards including natural disasters, acts of terrorism, and other man-made disasters.

http://www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema?id=47404




So, to whoever authored that email:

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-President Obama has organized no help.-


W-h-a-t-e-v-e-r.

 

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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 11:47 AM
Bhawk, how dare you ruin a good email lie? Seriously man, you are just no fun.

 

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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 11:59 AM
Why weren't the supplies waiting there, like they should have been in NOLA (I think that was one of the arguments back then)? Huh huh? BY the way, just kidding...or maybe trolling....
 

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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 12:30 PM
Put aside the incendiary portion of this relating to the racial aspects for a moment. The two incidents are not far different, are they? But the media and celebutard culture response is night and day different? Its a fair question to ask why.

 

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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 01:09 PM
I would say that being without power, heat and water for a week or more is certainly an inconvenience, but it far different from being under 20 feet of water with everything lost and damaged.

Sorry, but an ice storm isn't as glamourous as a Cat 5 hurricane that destroys a large metropolitan area. People can buy (or have available if the area is prone to this kind of thing) generators and keep on living without being forced into a football dome to live. When power is restored, people have a home to return to (if they went and stayed somewhere else). I don't see the similarity.

Of course, I live in an area where we get ice storms fairly frequently. People pretty much plan for at least one a year....

 

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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 01:14 PM
No, no, see, the point is that...

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-President Obama has organized no help.-

 

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Someone sent this to me, I am just the messenger, but I thought it was pretty funny and creative...

I have a Logic Question:

-Hurricane Katrina displaced many New Orleans residents, many of whom were Black Americans. Lack of food, clean water and shelter threatened their lives.-President Bush was late in assessing the magnitude of the event and sending relief.-Kanye West says on National television - "George Bush hates Black People"-Every media outlet picks up the story and plays Kanye's comments over and over and over again.-Hollywood stars like Aschton Kutscher and Demi Moore jump on the bandwagon and attack President Bush, vowing this lack of response never to happen again.-John Travolta loads up his 747 with volunteers and assists in the relief effort

Roll the tape forward -Historic ice storms in the midwest leave a million people without electricity for several weeks. Many in the midwest use electricity to heat their homes. This winter has been one of the coldest on record. -Lack of federal response have left a million without water (wells run on electricity) and heat, many have died as a result.-Several weeks after the event, 100,000 are still without electricity in Kentucky and Arkansas.-The areas that lack power are predominantly white.-No hollywood stars have spoken of this event- or done anything - including Demi Moore and her boy toy, who vowed never to let this happen again.-President Obama has organized no help.-The media has not covered the story


Can I then assume President Obama hates White People?


no....just that BLEEDING HEART left winger Hollywood types are **** s looking for air time to promote their dead lives.THAT'S ALL.

 

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Put aside the incendiary portion of this relating to the racial aspects for a moment. The two incidents are not far different, are they? But the media and celebutard culture response is night and day different? Its a fair question to ask why.


How many people died in Katrina?
How many people died in the Midwest?
How many homes were destroyed in Katrina?
How many homes were destroyed in the Midwest?
How many people were permanently displaced in Katrina?
How many people were permanently displaced in the Midwest?

You are comparing getting a cold to a fatal disease.

[Edited on 2/5/2009 by old_time_fan]
Fair enough Otie - good points all

 

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Roll the tape forward -Historic ice storms in the midwest leave a million people without electricity for several weeks. Many in the midwest use electricity to heat their homes. This winter has been one of the coldest on record. -Lack of federal response have left a million without water (wells run on electricity) and heat, many have died as a result.-Several weeks after the event, 100,000 are still without electricity in Kentucky and Arkansas.-The areas that lack power are predominantly white.-No hollywood stars have spoken of this event- or done anything - including Demi Moore and her boy toy, who vowed never to let this happen again.-President Obama has organized no help.-The media has not covered the story


Can I then assume President Obama hates White People?


Ignorant hate speech. You're not allowed to point out the obvious here, or anywhere.

 

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Historic ice storms in the midwest leave a million people without electricity for several weeks. Many in the midwest use electricity to heat their homes. Several weeks after the event, 100,000 are still without electricity in Kentucky and Arkansas.



The "midwest", Arkansas & Kentucky. Correct me if I am misinformed, but wouldn't the area mentioned above be substantially larger than the city of New Orleans?

[Edited on 2/5/2009 by BIGV]

 

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Shows the extreme media bias...that will change when this country goes belly up.
Obama is leading this country to demise.

 

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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 04:42 PM
Yes, these last 15 days have been all downhill......

 

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Yes, these last 15 days have been all downhill......
Even I got a hearty laugh out that one Sang - thanks!

 

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He hasn't done anything. Not a thing at all.

 

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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 05:39 PM


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  posted on 2/5/2009 at 08:18 PM
It is hard for someone to apply logic to this email, although not very creative but I can see the humor in it. Trying to stitch these two scenarios together and suggesting that they are even remotely related in and of itself is pretty amusing. Flawless logic, now that is funny! LOL!

For the record those folks are having a pretty rough time and I am not making light of it, with the improvement of the weather (last weekend the ice started melting) and hopefully these people will be in good shape shortly. I think about 46 people have died across 7 states of traffic fatalities, carbon dioxide poisoning and hypothermia in relations to these storms, so all considered it looks like FEMA did a pretty good job.

 

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How many folks in Tennessee looted TV's from iced-in electronics stores?

 

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OR take Heinekens from the frozen in stores?


 

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Okay you are right........Obama hates white people, I thought that this was about applying the same logic and making a comparison that these two situations are comparable but whatever. So basically you are saying that places like Tennessee and Kentucky do not have criminals and if they do that their criminals would not take advantage of a situation like this ice storm to commit crimes? Do criminals from Kentucky and Tennessee have higher standards when it comes to crimes? There are no pictures and film footage, therefore no crimes were committed. Obama dozed so people froze? Is that right?

I also don't see any of these people being called stupid for not being prepared and being told they should move. Imagine hearing stuff like ice storms do happen after all, you would think they would have been more prepared? I am not excusing the criminals in New Orleans for their behavior and Kanye West is an idiot. Does G.W Bush hate black people? Frankly I don't recall anyone ever giving any validity to that statement when he made it, most people laughed because he looked like such an idiot. Could it be said that some supporters of G.W.B. hate black people? Sure. Could it just as easily be said that some supporters of Obama hate white people. Sure. He made the statement, and looked like an idiot but I can also recall some supporters of G.W.B. making statements that were just as idiotic.

There are people who rip people off everyday who donít get it that they are no different than the dope stealing the beer or the dope stealing the TV. If you are jerking around at work and still taking pay for it you are stealing from the company. Why is that crime (if stealing is a crime then taking pay for no work is stealing) any different? Well guess what? It isnít. If it makes you feel better to think you are somehow above criminal behavior than have at it. More than likely most people probably commit one petty crime a day.

The criminal element in New Orleans is as rough as anything that even most you could even begin to comprehend. I have seen and lived it first hand I know, but along with that there is a long history that if you ever cared to take a look at, you might be able to actually get a better understanding as to why something like this could occur.


[Edited on 2/6/2009 by PattyG]

 

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I haven't heard Obama say that we shouldn't "rebuild" Kentucky and Tennessee like Dennis Hastert suggested we shouldn't rebuild New Orleans.....

 

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Is Trent Lott's house finished yet?

 

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Here's my $.02 as someone who is living through this mess. I don't care about the race or political issues like you are. And I'm sure some of you are gonna jump my a$$ for my opinion.

Here's what I saw. Kentucky Governor Steve Beshear called out all units of the National Guard. Unfortunately they had no chain saws to help clean limbs from power lines. They did go door to door to check on the well being of families in rural areas.Five days after the Governor requested federal aid did FEMA even think about us. Local government consisted of a daily press conference to tell how many people were without electricity and not much else other than a couple shelters.

Both ends of the street I live on were blocked by limbs and power lines for two days. I lost two days pay since I couldn't leave the street. I care for my in poor health 92 year old mother. I spent over $1000 for a generator and propane to keep the house somewhat warm with space heaters while the temperatures were in the single digits. You think I'm going to get a bailout? NO. Not to mention the stress I had when I was running out of propane for the heater and couldn't find any. But I have good neighbors and we all worked together to make things better for ourselves.

It's easy for some of you to sit in your warm homes or your warm climate and say this doesn't compare to Katrina. In scope maybe not, but people have lost their lives trying to stay warm.

We have ice storms every year too but nothing like this. My Mother has never seen anything like this one before.

For those who will say I'm taking this personal because I live in KY, well yes I am. This is the second time in 6 months that we have had a weather catastrophe and government assistance was pitiful.

So you all can be sarcastic and political fine and dandy.

But I will take donations or sell you some photos to cover my costs.

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I'm not so sure getting federal assistance should be the benchmark for successfully getting back on your collective feet after a disaster. After what Cedar Rapids went through last summer and the federal programs put into place to "help" I'm pretty sure we'd have been better off without their help...

I'm a land use planner and I've never worked with an agency (FEMA) that's so f*cked up...it's embarassing...between FEMA and the EDA (economic development administration) it's a wonder things even get done...absolutely pathetic waste of money.

And as far as comparing things to Katrina, I think that's just silly. Cedar Rapids had some 20+ feet of water over flood stage, pretty much destroyed the downtown and several neighborhoods but I just can't see comparing one disaster to another. If you were impacted, it hurt - if you weren't, it's just another thing on the news. Just like in Kentucky. Bill was impacted terribly. Thankfully he'll be alright, but that doesn't make his disaster any less or greater than any others...

 

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