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  posted on 1/28/2009 at 02:42 PM
What do you guys think of the new Derek Trucks Band Album?

I personally think it is the best one yet. I love how they used Doyle Bramhall to sing on some tracks, and Dereks guitar work is amazing, but I like how he let other people take control on this one.

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  posted on 1/28/2009 at 02:46 PM
Great stuff! Donna found the BestBuy version (3 extra tracks) this past Sunday. they have about 7 copies left at the store near my house. I love the version of Spooner Oldham's, "Sweet Inspiration"! It's all real, real good!

 

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  posted on 1/28/2009 at 02:50 PM
I agree I love Sweet Inspiration. I preordered from their site, so I didn't get the three extra tracks, but I have heard them online and they are great. I have seen the DTB many times and have met Derek and the band three or four times, but this album gets me excited for Wanee this year. I would love to hear a set of new material, along with old favorites.
 

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  posted on 1/28/2009 at 03:06 PM
Bramhall's voice is about the only thing on the album I don't care for, actually. On "Our Love" he's okay, but I found his singing on "Maybe This Time" really nasal. I think Mike would have been better on either song. Working with different writing partners did seem to broaden Derek's approach, so that's a positive. (I wouldn't say he gave up control. They made this one the way they wanted to, probably for the first time.) Susan's terrific on "Back Where I Started." She really made the most of that one. I like the album a lot. It has a great vibe, and a few of the songs are extremely catchy. Like I said in the other thread, I'm happy they came up with a strong batch of original songs.

 

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  posted on 1/28/2009 at 04:01 PM
The record is amazing. I have listened to it on and off for about a week straight now and I hear new things I missed previously every time. There is some tremendously precise and intricate musicianship going on here.

 

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  posted on 1/28/2009 at 04:02 PM
Derek's new album is brilliant and sublime. Time will tell if it becomes a classic ala "Layla," or "Eat A Peach" but it's definitely a contender in that regard.

 

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  posted on 1/28/2009 at 04:07 PM
I also enjoyed the cameo appearances by Ted and Tyler from the Codetalkers!

 

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  posted on 1/28/2009 at 04:29 PM
I generally agree with Marley. I do not like Doyle at all on this release, (or at all for that matter) and his vocals are about as grating as his guitar playing. I really like the first track Down by the Flood, as well as a few others. My other comment is that I get the impression that Derek is holding back on his soloing throughout the disc and I am a little disappointed by that especially after hearing 6 or so of the new tracks when I saw him live last Niovember.

 

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  posted on 1/28/2009 at 04:31 PM
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The record is amazing. I have listened to it on and off for about a week straight now and I hear new things I missed previously every time. There is some tremendously precise and intricate musicianship going on here.


Amen. I put the Bose noise cancelation headphones on last night, kicked my feet up on the sofa and plugged into Already Free. There are a bunch of little treats that jump out when the outside world is put on mute. I couldn't stay on the sofa too long, though. Had to get up and boogie around the house a bit.

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Bramhall's voice is about the only thing on the album I don't care for, actually. On "Our Love" he's okay, but I found his singing on "Maybe This Time" really nasal. I think Mike would have been better on either song. Working with different writing partners did seem to broaden Derek's approach, so that's a positive. (I wouldn't say he gave up control. They made this one the way they wanted to, probably for the first time.) Susan's terrific on "Back Where I Started." She really made the most of that one. I like the album a lot. It has a great vibe, and a few of the songs are extremely catchy. Like I said in the other thread, I'm happy they came up with a strong batch of original songs.


I do agree about Doyle's vocals. I prefer Mike. Hands down. I also agree about Susan on Back Where I Started. She doesn't oversing at all. I'd like her to sing like this more often and let the growl come out periodically - when it can really deliver a punch.


 

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I generally agree with Marley. I do not like Doyle at all on this release, (or at all for that matter) and his vocals are about as grating as his guitar playing. I really like the first track Down by the Flood, as well as a few others. My other comment is that I get the impression that Derek is holding back on his soloing throughout the disc and I am a little disappointed by that especially after hearing 6 or so of the new tracks when I saw him live last Niovember.


And I agree with you. While it is always fantastic to hear new material from your favorite artist, I too could have done without Doyle's vocals. Give me more Mike M. and more of Derek stretching out. The CD is growing on me, but Imho, it doesn't stand up very well to the genius of... "Songlines".

 

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I disagree I like this album because Derek doesn't over play everyone else, by soloing in every song. I loved Songlines, but I felt like Derek over ruled everybody else to much on that disc. Don't get me wrong I love to hear Derek solo and I have seen him eight times with the Allman Brothers, and five or six with his guys. I haven't heard much from doyle's collection, but I am going to start listening after how good I thought he was on this album Maybe he will guest at Wanee with the DTB on saturday night!!!!

who knows though???

 

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I generally agree with Marley. I do not like Doyle at all on this release, (or at all for that matter) and his vocals are about as grating as his guitar playing. I really like the first track Down by the Flood, as well as a few others. My other comment is that I get the impression that Derek is holding back on his soloing throughout the disc and I am a little disappointed by that especially after hearing 6 or so of the new tracks when I saw him live last Niovember.


And I agree with you. While it is always fantastic to hear new material from your favorite artist, I too could have done without Doyle's vocals. Give me more Mike M. and more of Derek stretching out. The CD is growing on me, but Imho, it doesn't stand up very well to the genius of... "Songlines".


I agree, really could've done w/o Doyle. I prefer Soul Serenade, Joyful Noise and Songlines to this one. That said, it's awesome that Derek and the band aren't afraid to evolve and do things the way they want to

 

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  posted on 1/28/2009 at 07:06 PM
I don't like Doyle's songs, love everything else.

 

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Man, why don't we rename this the "I hate Doyle thread?" I guess Clapton, Derek and Susan all don't know how to evaluate muscial talent....

Never understood why some people felt that bashing another musician elevated their favorite...

 

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  posted on 1/28/2009 at 09:32 PM
Saw Clapton in Tampa last Summer and I left there with more respect for Doyle. I think he's pretty damn good actually, but I have yet to purchase the new CD.

 

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Man, why don't we rename this the "I hate Doyle thread?" I guess Clapton, Derek and Susan all don't know how to evaluate muscial talent....
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Not sure how you drew that conclusion. The simple fact is that some folks did not enjoy the addition of Doyle mixed in with the DTB. How does that elevate anyone else?? If anything, it detracted from the enjoyment of the work.

 

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Man, why don't we rename this the "I hate Doyle thread?" I guess Clapton, Derek and Susan all don't know how to evaluate muscial talent....

Never understood why some people felt that bashing another musician elevated their favorite...


Nobody has bashed Doyle, No one has said they hated him. The thread asked...for opinions on the the new CD. A few people have posted that they thought the CD would be better off without Doyle.

How is that bashing?

 

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  posted on 1/28/2009 at 10:24 PM
i have enjoyed it I was in my cd player for almost 2 weeks

 

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It is a great album overall, but I tend to like Songlines better.

I don't think Doyle is bad, but he does seem a bit out of place. Fans of the Derek Trucks Band (well, at least me) tend to expect Mike to be handling the vocal. It was a bit jarring at first, especially since I didn't know beforehand.

Songlines was kind of the album where they put everything they had on the table and turned it into a very cohesive whole; it was a knockout release. This album feels more to be just a collection of songs---good songs though, do not get me wrong. I'm sure I will give it many more listens but I suspect the best (their Layla) may be yet to come.

 

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I heard most of the new tracks played live last fall, and find the studio versions fall flat in comparison. Sweet Inspiration and Get What You Deserve lose a lot of their power and energy in the dubbing and studio mixing. I like Derek's guitar raw and rough, and the album release is very toned down, maybe to make it more palatable for the general public.

You can hear both songs streamed by World Cafe Live, recorded last November:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=99800401

After touring with Clapton and Santana, and appearing on albums with Clapton, JJ Cale, Buddy Guy Elvin Bishop and others, you would think he would invite them to appear on his.

I like the album, but see it as a move to the middle of the road to attract a wider audience. Adding Doyle to the mix may help that effort, but does not do much for me. I am a big Ted Head, but would rather have seen this track on Back to the River than on Already Free.

 

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  posted on 1/29/2009 at 09:53 AM
i really like the cuts that Doyle is on...

i think the album is awesome...

 

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Man, why don't we rename this the "I hate Doyle thread?" I guess Clapton, Derek and Susan all don't know how to evaluate muscial talent....

Never understood why some people felt that bashing another musician elevated their favorite...


I don't think this thread is quite that harsh, Rich. Just some folks offering up opinions. I prefer Mike Mattison's vocals. I didn't say Doyle stinks. It's just my taste.

I've said before...I hope these are the salad days of a very long and influential dTb run. I think their "Layla" or "EAP" album is still to come. I appreciate that they made the music they wanted to make with the people of their choosing on Already Free.

Live dTb is electric. Studio recordings can't capture the same vibe and spontaneity but they serve another purpose equally important to an artist's growth in my opinion.

I do anticipate amazing stuff coming from Swamp Raga studios much like that from Coltrane's home studio.








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  posted on 1/29/2009 at 10:06 AM
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the album release is very toned down, maybe to make it more palatable for the general public.

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After touring with Clapton and Santana, and appearing on albums with Clapton, JJ Cale, Buddy Guy Elvin Bishop and others, you would think he would invite them to appear on his.

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Adding Doyle to the mix may help that effort, but does not do much for me.

Anybody else see a big contradiction here?

 

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  posted on 1/29/2009 at 10:21 AM
I wish I could get it. Jax Beach 'CD Connection', the only decent independant music store that I know of around here, can't seem to get copies of the CD (they have vinyl only). I havent checked since thier last shipment so it may be there I'll call again today, but the fact they couldnt get it in stock for weeks in Derek's home town is pretty much a travesty imo.

Anyway, waiting til they get it in stock...I buy all my CD's there...I don't buy any music at best buy (personal prefference) and I wish big business wouldn't get in the way with great music like this.


 
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