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  posted on 1/24/2009 at 10:32 AM
Started right on time, 10:00 AM, looking for MSG Dead tix! Not a single ticket coming
up! Yippie! An excuse not to go. Let the moron scalpers enjoy the mega-loss
they are going to sit on this year. Me? I'll catch some local shows with
cheap tix bought at the theaters box office. Fine with me!

Finally, a couple of 300 series tickets comes up behind the stage (near the ceiling) for $110, same price as front row center floor. I'll pass. There will be 100's of tix going for BELOW cost to these shows days before the show. How many people today can pay scalper $200-500 prices to go see a 3 hour show? In NY? Not many. Those days are over, at least for the moment.

Us? Tonight we're catching Railroad Earth @ Ridgefield Playhouse for what? $30! Yep, that right there simply makes sense. Yesssseeerreeeee.

Die scalpers die!!!

And shame on Bobby, Phil et all for allowing Ticketbastard to ruin what should be a typical Dead experience. Have fun. I'll wait for the next P&F tour thank you very much.

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  posted on 1/24/2009 at 10:43 AM
Ticketbastard is just ridiculous. It's not right.
 

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  posted on 1/24/2009 at 10:50 AM
I did OK for the Worcester, Mass shows. I also know that anyone who did the mail order was confirmed tickets for all the shows!

 

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  posted on 1/24/2009 at 10:51 AM
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I did OK for the Worcester, Mass shows. I also know that anyone who did the mail order was confirmed tickets for all the shows!




Not according to them. The e-mail sent out said 1 out of 3 mail-ins for MSG got tickets.

 

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  posted on 1/24/2009 at 10:53 AM
Oh, it must be the NY shows that are the tough ones. I missed that.

 

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  posted on 1/24/2009 at 11:03 AM
Had no problems getting Spectrum tickets in Philly for Sat. May 2nd. Oh I forgot to mention.... It wasnt ticketmaster, it was Comcast Tiks. Ticketmaster is one of the biggest monopolies in this country. Been screwed many times by them and am unwilling to pay a dollar over face value ever again. Im just glad these tickets were handled by Comcast. Never had a problem w/ them. Of course as far as I know Comcast does not have a ''sister'' scalping co. attatched to its name. Sorry to all those folks who got shut out of MSG. Come on down to Philly and deal w/ Comcast. Plenty of good seats available last time I checked. Peace.
 

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  posted on 1/24/2009 at 11:28 AM
f ticketmaster, live nation, stub hub, tickets now, and Mayor bloomberg. Mostly f the brokers and fans who sell these tickets at a profit.

Until the bands take the control of tickets out of the hands of these rip off artists, the fans are screwed.

 

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  posted on 1/24/2009 at 11:43 AM
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f ticketmaster, live nation, stub hub, tickets now, and Mayor bloomberg. Mostly f the brokers and fans who sell these tickets at a profit.

Until the bands take the control of tickets out of the hands of these rip off artists, the fans are screwed.



Here here! The reality is that The Dead are just not THAT good with Warren. We're huge Mule fans, huge ABB/Warren fans but the 2 shows in the '04 Wave That Flat tour we caught were unimpressive. We just felt that Warren didn't gell well, not as well as Jimmy Herring. I'd like to see Jackie Green or Larry Campbell with The Dead this time around FWIW. Still, maybe they'll be better this time around, after all it's 5 years later (how can that be? 5 years?). Oye!

 

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By the way, right now on Ticketmaster's scalper website, Tickets Now, there are 553 tickets for sale at prices ranging from $159-$3,745. I had to buy my 3/13 Beacon tix on Ticketmaster. I can almost hope for the day when the ABB do retire. It will likely signal the last time I will ever go to the Ticketmaster website. It's a filthy, ethicless, dirty business and mars what should be a great entertainment experience.

Mountain Jam, Gathering of the Vibes... Best bang for your buck and NO TICKETMASTER involved!

 

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  posted on 1/24/2009 at 12:28 PM
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I can almost hope for the day when the ABB do retire.
Bite your tongue!!!

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And shame on Bobby, Phil et all for allowing Ticketbastard to ruin what should be a typical Dead experience. Have fun. I'll wait for the next P&F tour thank you very much.

Don't know that it is directly fault of individual members of any of these bands what happens with ticket sales now-a-days. I hate the situation with scalpers and their 'legal' counterpart ticket brokers but like with any enterprise, a need is recognized and someone somewhere is going to figure out how to turn that need into dollars filling their pockets. Even with fan pre-sales and GDTS mail-order you can't eliminate people taking advantage to fill their own coffers.

 

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  posted on 1/24/2009 at 12:36 PM
This ticketsnow deal is friggin bullsh*t! I was trying to buy some Dave Matthews tickets for my wife this morning for the shows in Atlanta where scalping is illegal and had the same problems everyone is having right now, unbelievable. Apparently ticketsnow gets around the scalping deal by having a license to sell tickets at market value prices even if it is above face value. Ticketmaster bought ticketsnow, which has been in business since '92, last year, they claim to not be giving them anymore access to tickets than the general public...sounds like a load of crap to me, considering I have never seen this problem before, particularly on such a widespread basis and have never heard of ticketsnow before. I hope they choke on their tickets in this sh*tty economy. Screw ticketmaster and ticketsnow, this stuff really p*sses me off.

It sounds like LiveNation may try to do something in the ticketing realm this year...not that I really have alot of trust in them either though.

I wish someone with some ties to a proactive politician would pass this info along to them to see what could be done about this system...clearly if you want to get good seats to a show at face value prices you better hope your band offers a pre-sale or you appear to be out of luck.

Here is an article where I found a bunch of info about these a-holes:


http://www.westislandchronicle.com/article-cp77048033-Ticketmaster-denies-i ts-resale-site-TicketsNow-has-easy-access-to-tickets.html




Ryan

[Edited on 1/24/2009 by RyanBelair]

[Edited on 1/24/2009 by RyanBelair]

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  posted on 1/24/2009 at 01:51 PM
I got on right at 10 for MSG... tried for two of the $55 cheap seats for a few minutes....nothing...ended up getting two singles, 5 seats apart
 

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  posted on 1/24/2009 at 01:56 PM
got Dead albany tickets through tickets.com - the official site for the times union center Dead concert...

RAilRoad Earth - saw them recently - I love that band....amazing live show late into the night! Youth helps!!! Thinking of seeing them at Mountain Jam...

Eddie Vedder went to some congressional hearings about the ticket monopoly but really didnt fare too well for the fans. It is what it is I guess.

 

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  posted on 1/24/2009 at 02:01 PM
got my ticket via the Dead's presale at Musictoday for MCI in DC. no problems.

 

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  posted on 1/24/2009 at 02:30 PM
After enough bands have played enough shows to MOSTLY EMPTY venues - maybe things will start to change.

Think about the civil rights movement for a second. Enough people got sick and tired of how things were being done - got up off their asses and faced fire hoses and dogs. They did what HAD TO BE DONE to change things.

Folks, we can whine all day about tickst prices and scalpers, but until we make a statement - don't look for things to change.

I really hate the idea of the Allman Brother's Band playing their 40th Aniversary Beacon run to half-empty theaters. But unless we collectively tell the scalpers (professional and ameteur alike) to STICK THEIR OVERPRICED TICKETS WHERE THE SUN DON'T SHINE - we can only expect things to get worse.

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  posted on 1/24/2009 at 03:10 PM
Write/email your local Congressman!

You know, if one person, just one person does it they may think he's crazy and
ignore him. And if two people, two people do it, they may think they're both crazy and ignore both of them. And if three people do it, three, can you imagine, three people emailing their Congressman to complain about legalized scalping. They may think it's an
organization. And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day, I said
fifty people a day emailing their Congressman to complain about legalized scalping. And friends they may think it's a movement.

And that's what it is , the Eff Legalized Scalping Movement, and all you got to do to join is email your local Congressman and complain about legalized scalping.

<liberties taken, but I doubt Arlo would mind>

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  posted on 1/24/2009 at 03:35 PM
Tex and all the rest "write your congressman" crowd. Y'all need to do a "reality check". In today's worsening economy, our elected leaders need to be focusing on the BIG ECONOMIC issues that effect all of us. Scapling tickets (legal or illegal) is really "small potatoes" in the scheme of things. Truth is, if you want to stop scapling, then don't buy the overpriced tickests, Once these scalpers start LOSING MONEY, then the practice will end. Truth is, the problem is not the scalpers, but the A$$HOLES who are willing to pay "whatever amount of money" to see their favorite artists, sports team, ect. They're the ones who allow the scalpers to stay in business.
 

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Tex and all the rest "write your congressman" crowd. Y'all need to do a "reality check". In today's worsening economy, our elected leaders need to be focusing on the BIG ECONOMIC issues that effect all of us. Scapling tickets (legal or illegal) is really "small potatoes" in the scheme of things. Truth is, if you want to stop scapling, then don't buy the overpriced tickests, Once these scalpers start LOSING MONEY, then the practice will end. Truth is, the problem is not the scalpers, but the A$$HOLES who are willing to pay "whatever amount of money" to see their favorite artists, sports team, ect. They're the ones who allow the scalpers to stay in business.


I understand what you're saying, but that sounds alot like the "my vote doesn't matter" philosiphy! Not to get into a political debate, but you've elected your Congressman to represent you (whether or not you actually voted for him/her), if you believe there are isssues, you should write to them, not just settle for venting on a message board. If you, personally, don't have a problem w/ it (or think there are bigger issues), that's alright too!

It just seems that now-a-days everyone expects someone else to fix everything for them people here seem to want the bands, etc... to do something; "main street"/Wall Street/Big 3/Fanny&Freddie/NYC/Banks/it goes on and on wants the Gov't (i.e me & you, etc... via tax $$$) to bail them because they made bad decisions, rolled the dice and lost; etc...

I just want to see people being more pro-active (for whatever they believe)!

Sorry (this ended up more of a WP response).

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  posted on 1/24/2009 at 04:23 PM
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Truth is, the problem is not the scalpers, but the A$$HOLES who are willing to pay "whatever amount of money" to see their favorite ...


Unfortunately, no shortage of A$$HOLES around...

 

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  posted on 1/24/2009 at 05:11 PM
As far as the reality checks goes I believe there is time for our elected officials to handle the major problems at hand and take some time to look into this problem. They can only discuss and act on the economy so much, clearly it is also going to take time for things to pick up.

I'm going to look into getting an online petition going to get some signatures and get it into the hands of the appropiate official from my area.

Ryan

 

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  posted on 1/24/2009 at 07:06 PM
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. . . . . . Truth is, the problem is not the scalpers, but the A$$HOLES who are willing to pay "whatever amount of money" to see their favorite artists, sports team, ect. . . . . . .



Fred, don'tcha think you're being a little harsh ?? I know of a few folks around here who did purchase tickets from the secondary market, and calling them A$$HOLES sure would seem a little too cruel to me. Some people are traveling great distances, and their plans require them to have have a ticket to the show prior to making airline reservations.




 

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  posted on 1/24/2009 at 08:23 PM
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Scapling tickets (legal or illegal) is really "small potatoes" in the scheme of things. Truth is, if you want to stop scapling, then don't buy the overpriced tickests, Once these scalpers start LOSING MONEY, then the practice will end. Truth is, the problem is not the scalpers, but the A$$HOLES who are willing to pay "whatever amount of money" to see their favorite artists, sports team, ect. They're the ones who allow the scalpers to stay in business.


The band could easily of taken certain measures to ensure that scalping was kept at a minimum. They didn't do that. Why not? Butch Trucks is also selling subscriptions to Moogis. It is somewhat of a conflict of interest as his company will clearly make money off those who can't get good seats and can't afford the scalpers yet want to see the shows. This is fine and very capitalistic. The point is that the band is involved in some way as to what transpired here. Why blame the people who simply are more successful and can afford the more expensive tickets and want to see a show without a lot of hassles? Boycotting from this site, which is what is being encouraged, wonít be effective as the people who will buy these tickets probably donít come here.

 

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  posted on 1/24/2009 at 08:37 PM
Ticket prices in general are outragous this year. For the 1st time in many years I will not be attending any DEAD shows. And, worst of all.......I won't be making the trip up to the Beacon this year for our beloved Brothers' Anniversary celebration. It's just not in the cards for me finacially this year.

 

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  posted on 1/24/2009 at 08:46 PM
Jon, what about a summer ABB gathering in Pixberg?

We're trying to get that working if they should play there.

 

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Fred, don'tcha think you're being a little harsh ?? I know of a few folks around here who did purchase tickets from the secondary market, and calling them A$$HOLES sure would seem a little too cruel to me. Some people are traveling great distances, and their plans require them to have have a ticket to the show prior to making airline reservations.



Slammer,

I'm not being harsh at all, I'm being real. If you're buyng from the secondary markets (i.e. scalpers) then you're contributing to the problem. Nobody HAS to go to a particular concert, that's a CHOICE, and if you're paying a "scalper's price" for a ticket then you're making it more easy for a scalper to stay in business and charge his price. There comes a point when people need to say "NO", even if means they have to miss a particular concert. Remember you're either part of the solution, or part of the problem.

[Edited on 1/25/2009 by sibwlkr]

 
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