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Author: Subject: So where did all the Beacon tickets REALLY go?

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  posted on 1/19/2009 at 12:31 PM
We have all been making the assumption that scalpers snatched up the bulk of the Beacon tickets from the general sale. But looking at what's out there, that explanation does not make sense.

Starting with TM's site TicketsNow and looking for the 3/21 show, which was the most sought after from this site, there are virtually no seats in the front orchestra. Checking Stubb Hub, eBay and several scalper sites gives the same result. I saw maybe one listing for BB seats (second row). No other double letters, hardly any A through M- the entire front of the house. These primo seats would naturally command the highest premiums, so it does not make sense that they all went to scalpers, but none are on sale.

I don't recall anyone here posting they got double letters and very few if any front orchestra.

TM auctions has AA to CC for all nights, but no indication of how many seats are available for each show. Even if they got them all (not likely) that still leaves the double letter seats for both side sections, plus DD and back.

Few of these seats were available in the pre-sale (at least based on what has been posted here). The initial Amex pre-sale did not offer the "gold circle" seats as an option. If they were all allocated to the Amex Gold pre-sale, surely some of us here or some scalpers would have gotten them.

The speed at which the entire run was sold out (10 nights at 2300 seats after allowing for the band, promoters and other hold-backs) also seems to make it unlikely thateverything was snatched by the brokers.

So where did they go?

 

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  posted on 1/19/2009 at 12:44 PM
I am sure you will see them pop up closer to march.

 

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  posted on 1/19/2009 at 01:02 PM
If Mar 21st is the last night of the Beacon run, then I would suspect that many of those seats have been put aside for guests, comps etc. Forty years is a long time and lots of requests I am sure were made for that night.

 

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  posted on 1/19/2009 at 01:04 PM
Even if that's the case, what about the other nine nights?

 

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  posted on 1/19/2009 at 01:08 PM
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Even if that's the case, what about the other nine nights?


Alan I was lucky in that I got tickets for that weekend in the presale, but are you saying the whole run came up empty during the general sale?

 

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  posted on 1/19/2009 at 01:17 PM
I have been coming and been a member of this site 5 + years. I simply do not understand how the pre sale works. What make you a Peach Corps member? Where was the link? Are the tix any cheaper? Is it over?

I have no problem with the system. I just do not understand how to get started in it.

It is all a mystery to me. Please help so maybe next year I can try again.

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mark

 

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I have been coming and been a member of this site 5 + years. I simply do not understand how the pre sale works. What make you a Peach Corps member? Where was the link? Are the tix any cheaper? Is it over?

I have no problem with the system. I just do not understand how to get started in it.

It is all a mystery to me. Please help so maybe next year I can try again.

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mark


"Registered: 1/14/2009"

Looks like you have been a member 5 days, not 5 years.

Next year you will recieve an email about any upcoming Beacon Runs that will explain everything. No, it is not cheaper


[Edited on 1/19/2009 by moemoe6434]

 

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  posted on 1/19/2009 at 01:32 PM
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I have been coming and been a member of this site 5 + years. I simply do not understand how the pre sale works. What make you a Peach Corps member? Where was the link? Are the tix any cheaper? Is it over?

I have no problem with the system. I just do not understand how to get started in it.

It is all a mystery to me. Please help so maybe next year I can try again.

Thanks

mark


Mark,

its my understanding, having gone through the presale a number of times that you have to have a legit email address on file when you registered your site name..i.e markman.
I'm a little confused about when it goes active, is it when you register or when you first post, because your date is 1/4/09.

When lana sends out the presale password to your registered email address it outlines, the when, where, date that your account had to be active from and the password needed to participate in the presale. Of course there have been times when emails don't make it to folks or they forget which email address they used etc.

Like most things in life, there are no guarantees that you will get a ticket in the presale or in the case this year in the general sale.

Hope this helped.

 

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  posted on 1/19/2009 at 01:45 PM
The date is the date of your first post, not registration, but you still need to have your profile set to received newsletters to get announcement for the pre-sale. You would have been eligible this year if your registration date was prior to 12/31/08, but that's history anyway.

And Ed, I guess you missed this thread about the results of the general sale:

http://www.allmanbrothersband.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=XForum&am p;file=viewthread&tid=86738

PS: Let me know if you set sick that weekend... or if you need a "date" that appreciates the ABB as much as you do!

 

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  posted on 1/19/2009 at 02:52 PM
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The date is the date of your first post, not registration, but you still need to have your profile set to received newsletters to get announcement for the pre-sale. You would have been eligible this year if your registration date was prior to 12/31/08, but that's history anyway.

And Ed, I guess you missed this thread about the results of the general sale:

http://www.allmanbrothersband.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=XForum&am p;file=viewthread&tid=86738

PS: Let me know if you set sick that weekend... or if you need a "date" that appreciates the ABB as much as you do!




WOW! Do I understand what you are saying here? I registered 12/20 but did not make my first post until after the first of the year. So I will not be seeing my pre-sale ticket? This sure put a damper on my day!

 

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The date is the date of your first post, not registration, but you still need to have your profile set to received newsletters to get announcement for the pre-sale. You would have been eligible this year if your registration date was prior to 12/31/08, but that's history anyway.

And Ed, I guess you missed this thread about the results of the general sale:

http://www.allmanbrothersband.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=XForum&am p;file=viewthread&tid=86738

PS: Let me know if you set sick that weekend... or if you need a "date" that appreciates the ABB as much as you do!




WOW! Do I understand what you are saying here? I registered 12/20 but did not make my first post until after the first of the year. So I will not be seeing my pre-sale ticket? This sure put a damper on my day!


No, don't worry- your pre-sale tix depend on the date you were registered. It used to be that the registration date shown in your posts was based on the date of your first post, but apparently that's no longer true- since your date is 12/20, the date you registered, even though you did not post until January.

[Edited on 1/19/2009 by absnj]

 

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  posted on 1/19/2009 at 02:59 PM
No ... you are ok ... look beside your name where it lists you as having registered 12/20

What they were pointing out is theat the date under your name is usually the date that you first post here ... but you do not have to post to be a member.

When you first sign up and "register" yourself with the site ... as you have done registering as "BarryMB" ... that is the date that you officially register.

Then, as long as you checked the box to receive email messages from the site you will receive wjat is called a "PEACH_O_GRAM" with the pre-sale password each year ... beginning the year after you registered. If you say you got tickets in the pre-sale then you must have received the email and password thus proving that you are a registered member.

Then, when you purchase the tickets in the pre-sale ... the email address you give to "Ticketmaster" must be the same email address that is registered with this site ... the one you received the password on.

Provided this is the case ... you will get your tickets ... hope that helps

 

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  posted on 1/19/2009 at 03:06 PM
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The date is the date of your first post, not registration, but you still need to have your profile set to received newsletters to get announcement for the pre-sale. You would have been eligible this year if your registration date was prior to 12/31/08, but that's history anyway.

And Ed, I guess you missed this thread about the results of the general sale:

http://www.allmanbrothersband.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=XForum&am p;file=viewthread&tid=86738

PS: Let me know if you set sick that weekend... or if you need a "date" that appreciates the ABB as much as you do!




I saw that thread Alan, I guess i thought it was mostly about the 19-21 weekend.

 

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The date is the date of your first post, not registration, but you still need to have your profile set to received newsletters to get announcement for the pre-sale. You would have been eligible this year if your registration date was prior to 12/31/08, but that's history anyway.

And Ed, I guess you missed this thread about the results of the general sale:

http://www.allmanbrothersband.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=XForum&am p;file=viewthread&tid=86738

PS: Let me know if you set sick that weekend... or if you need a "date" that appreciates the ABB as much as you do!




WOW! Do I understand what you are saying here? I registered 12/20 but did not make my first post until after the first of the year. So I will not be seeing my pre-sale ticket? This sure put a damper on my day!


No, don't worry- your pre-sale tix depend on the date you were registered. It used to be that the registration date shown in your posts was based on the date of your first post, but apparently that's no longer true- since your date is 12/20, the date you registered, even though you did not post until January.

[Edited on 1/19/2009 by absnj]


Sorry! I was having a panic attack! I may have been wrong about my first post date too!

 

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  posted on 1/19/2009 at 03:09 PM
I generally get all the emails/newsletters from this site, but I did not receive any pre-sale info this year.
 

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  posted on 1/19/2009 at 03:47 PM
Just read on a website that Obama snatched up all those tickets to hand out to his most ardent supporters.....
 

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I generally get all the emails/newsletters from this site, but I did not receive any pre-sale info this year.


If you are signed up to receive newsletters but did not get the one with the pre-sale info it was probably to do with your spam filter.

Even so, once you know the email has been sent out to people all you need to do is go to the "Community" menu on the left and click on "Newsletter" ... if you are signed up to receive them it will show this in there with a tick in the box, and you can then look at previous newsletters by clicking on "view pervious newsletters" and there you will find the password.

 

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Just read on a website that Obama snatched up all those tickets to hand out to his most ardent supporters.....


Problem solved,its for the greater good, so end of topic

 

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  posted on 1/19/2009 at 04:35 PM
got a little side tracked here....

Anyway, i too am really wondering where all the tickets went.

I understand it's the 40th, but I also seem to remember hearing that the economy isn't doing that well, and don't remember seeing a big recent spike in ABB popularity (did I miss a new CD release?)

Beacon tix are always harder to come by than summer shows, but the thing that happened at 10AM for the presale - never experienced that before....

 
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  posted on 1/19/2009 at 06:05 PM
Definitely some crooked Ticketbastard stuff but remember = the 10 shows together don't add up to much more than I show at the Garden. When U2 announced the first (of what later turned out to be several) shows at MSG two years ago the entire show sold out in the time I sent my request in. The same thing happeded five years ago with the Rolling Stones.
 

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  posted on 1/19/2009 at 06:16 PM
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[Beacon tix are always harder to come by than summer shows, but the thing that happened at 10AM for the presale - never experienced that before..../quote]General sale was sort of 'over-before-it-started'!!!

 

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  posted on 1/19/2009 at 06:41 PM
Not defending TicketsNow, but people didn't believe me on the GB when I posted that the tickets came from people that had bought them, not Ticketbastard.

This is from the Q&A on the Ticketbastard site about TicketsNow:


Who is TicketsNow?

TicketsNow provides consumers access to live entertainment event tickets, no longer available via primary distribution channels, through its leading online marketplace where buyers and sellers meet in open exchange.

Tickets listed on TicketsNow come from licensed brokers, as well as from individual sellers. All tickets listed on TicketsNow are 100% authentic or your money back.

*Please note that on occasion tickets may be placed for sale on TicketsNow by Ticketmaster, for example when a transaction on Ticketmaster's TicketExchange is subsequently cancelled and Ticketmaster resells the ticket to mitigate a loss it has incurred.

Why combine Ticketmaster and TicketsNow?

The partnership between Ticketmaster and TicketsNow allows fans the greatest choice and access to live entertainment while ensuring reliability of service, convenience, and security.

How does the relationship between Ticketmaster and TicketsNow work?

Ticketmaster is building upon its existing TicketExchange resale marketplaces and partnerships with the NFL, NHL and NBA. Ticketmaster plans to eventually create integrated systems enabling fans to simultaneously review and compare ticket availability and pricing in primary, premium and resale categories and to then electronically validate and print their tickets irrespective of which channel they elect to purchase from. This provides fans with more choices and with a fuller understanding of what tickets are available (and at what price).

Does Ticketmaster hold back tickets to put on TicketsNow?

No - Ticketmaster supports its venue, promoter, artist, and sports clients and commits to connecting fans with live entertainment. Ticketmaster does not give special privileges to brokers, which could put us at odds with our clients, and strictly enforces ticket limits. That being said, many of us have experienced the frustration of not being able to get tickets when they go on sale only to see tickets show up on resale websites. While this may seem common, the fact is that the vast majority of primary market tickets end up in the hands of fans eager to attend the event.

How can tickets to some events sell out in a matter of minutes?

Ticketmaster, through our website alone, has sold more than 14,000 tickets per minute during high demand event onsales. However, it is not uncommon for several hundred thousand fans to make ticket requests in that same timeframe. So for an arena event with a 10,000-seat capacity, with an average of three tickets per transaction, only 3,500 fans' purchases are satisfied. Traditionally, fans waited in lines at retail outlets, where you could easily see how many people were ahead of you. In the cyberage, all the fans are behind a computer screen all vying for the same pool of tickets.

Why is Ticketmaster directing fans to TicketsNow, a broker-driven site?

A primary goal of the TicketsNow acquisition is to provide consumers with more choices and greater security.

Ticketmaster is now referring fans unable to purchase tickets to high-demand or sold-out events to the TicketsNow website so that they may be aware of what tickets are available via the resale channel. In the short-term, directing fans from Ticketmaster to TicketsNow provides information about additional purchasing options when there are no tickets available via the primary sales channel to the event they are seeking to attend.

Does Ticketmaster encourage consumers to work with brokers and to buy resale tickets?

Ticketmaster connects fans to live entertainment, priding itself on offering the maximum opportunity to see events in the most safe, reliable, and convenient manner. If an event does sell out of primary tickets, Ticketmaster may suggest fans see what is available through the ticket marketplace of TicketsNow. Demand can be greater than the supply, and TicketsNow provides another outlet for fans.

In fact, tickets listed on TicketsNow come from licensed brokers, as well as from individual sellers. All tickets listed on TicketsNow are 100% authentic or your money back.

How do the brokers get their tickets?

Ticket brokers put their capital at risk by purchasing tickets from season ticket holders, conventional public sales, and individual ticket holders. They often attempt to gauge demand of particular shows and will try to buy as many tickets as they can when events go on sale if they think the demand will be high. Sometimes they are right, and sometimes they are wrong. This means that they and their affiliates are online at the time of the onsale just like any other consumer.

In the past, some brokers have used automated software to try to gain unfair access to tickets and purchase the best seats in large quantities. This practice is illegal and TicketsNow does not create or endorse the utilization of such tools. Ticketmaster has been active in monitoring for these unlawful tools and has also used legal means to block them from our site.

How are the tickets priced? Are they always more expensive on TicketsNow?

Highly popular events often have fewer seats available than the number of people who want them. This means the tickets that are available tend to rise in price until the supply exceeds the demand. This is a classic example of market-based pricing. We see this regularly in the airline and hotel industries; flights and rooms for holiday weekends are always more expensive than at other times of the year. The sellers on TicketsNow are constantly monitoring this demand and prices adjust accordingly.

However, for events that aren't in high demand, tickets can often end up for below their original face value, resulting in great deals for consumers who are bargain hunting.

If I have a question should I contact Ticketmaster or TicketsNow?

At Ticketmaster and TicketsNow we pride ourselves on customer service. If you purchased tickets from Ticketmaster then you should contact Ticketmaster customer service. All communication regarding tickets purchased from TicketsNow should be with TicketsNow. Ticketmaster is not yet able to provide specific information about TicketsNow transactions.

Are there any legal issues associated with ticket resale?

Ticketmaster and TicketsNow are committed to providing fans with the highest levels of service, choice, convenience, and security, and are committed to doing so lawfully. Ticketmaster and TicketsNow have been working with local jurisdictions across the United States and Canada, with a myriad of different and sometimes conflicting local laws, to ensure legal compliance, so that the laws reflect the fast-changing technology and marketplace. In fact, Ticketmaster has been at the forefront of efforts to prevent the illegal diversion of tickets away from fans by the use of automated programs.

 

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  posted on 1/19/2009 at 07:31 PM
Back from a 4-day road trip. Time enough to cool down from my piss-offedness at TicketMaster? No freakin' way!

I just went to check to see if they've released any tix. The BALCONY tickets are now starting at $177.00.

Sang, I love you brother - everybody loves you! I just ain't buyin' the TicketMaster/TicketsNow propaganda that you're helping them spread. This is BOVINE EXCREMENT and they know it!

 

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  posted on 1/19/2009 at 07:33 PM
I'm not so sure about that!
 
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  posted on 1/19/2009 at 07:34 PM
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