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  posted on 1/12/2009 at 04:09 PM
Interesting they'd scrub her name and bio from the Socialist International's web site. What are they afraid of?

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Obama climate czar has socialist ties
Group sees 'global governance' as solution

Until last week, Carol M. Browner, President-elect Barack Obama's pick as global warming czar, was listed as one of 14 leaders of a socialist group's Commission for a Sustainable World Society, which calls for "global governance" and says rich countries must shrink their economies to address climate change.

By Thursday, Mrs. Browner's name and biography had been removed from Socialist International's Web page, though a photo of her speaking June 30 to the group's congress in Greece was still available.

Socialist International, an umbrella group for many of the world's social democratic political parties such as Britain's Labor Party, says it supports socialism and is harshly critical of U.S. policies.

The group's Commission for a Sustainable World Society, the organization's action arm on climate change, says the developed world must reduce consumption and commit to binding and punitive limits on greenhouse gas emissions.

Mr. Obama, who has said action on climate change would be a priority in his administration, tapped Mrs. Browner last month to fill a new position as White House coordinator of climate and energy policies. The appointment does not need Senate confirmation.

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  posted on 1/12/2009 at 04:17 PM
WHOOP-DEE-DO. The sky is falling. Beats having polluter-industry types at the helm.

[Edited on 1/12/2009 by woodsdweller]

 

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  posted on 1/12/2009 at 04:20 PM
Ok, and? Bush has family Nazi ties. Who really cares? Why is it important?

As for "scrubbing" her name, I especially like your tone of something nefarious going on rather than her leaving the position or something equally benign because she was slated to be part of Obamas cabinet.

Beyond all that, she is extremely qualified for the job, a refreshing change of pace from the last 8 years. Of course, you wont learn that at the MoonieTimes.




 

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  posted on 1/12/2009 at 04:36 PM
Prescott Bush now there was a doozy for ya. His Nazi sympathizer background didn't stop anyone from voting for his son or grandson. Anyway there are 300+ million people in Western Europe and Canada living pretty well under Democratic Socialist governments. Not sure why anyone would even give this a second thought or associate it in a negative light in this day and age.

 

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  posted on 1/12/2009 at 05:28 PM
YAWN......go away and hide in your hole

[Edited on 1/12/2009 by goldtop]

 

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  posted on 1/12/2009 at 05:30 PM
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Ok, and? Bush has family Nazi ties. Who really cares? Why is it important?




Because it was last week not seventy years ago.

[Edited on 1/12/2009 by RBK]

 

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  posted on 1/12/2009 at 05:53 PM
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Ok, and? Bush has family Nazi ties. Who really cares? Why is it important?




Because it was last week not seventy years ago.

[Edited on 1/12/2009 by RBK]


but wait a minute... guilt by association remember? Heck, if you are from the same state and in the same party, youre guilty of .... something? Being family members with a Nazi sympathizer surely means ... something? Hows that two way street working out for you?

 

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Ok, and? Bush has family Nazi ties. Who really cares? Why is it important?




Because it was last week not seventy years ago.

[Edited on 1/12/2009 by RBK]


but wait a minute... guilt by association remember? Heck, if you are from the same state and in the same party, youre guilty of .... something? Being family members with a Nazi sympathizer surely means ... something? Hows that two way street working out for you?


The street from seventy years ago or the street from last week featuring the BarryO appointee with socialist ties who's having her image and bio scrubbed? If it's no big deal then why take her name off the Socialist International's Web page?

Why?

 

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Ok, and? Bush has family Nazi ties. Who really cares? Why is it important?




Because it was last week not seventy years ago.

[Edited on 1/12/2009 by RBK]


but wait a minute... guilt by association remember? Heck, if you are from the same state and in the same party, youre guilty of .... something? Being family members with a Nazi sympathizer surely means ... something? Hows that two way street working out for you?


The street from seventy years ago or the street from last week featuring the BarryO appointee with socialist ties who's having her image and bio scrubbed? If it's no big deal then why take her name off the Socialist International's Web page?

Why?


I notice RBK has not revealed the source of the socialist-bashing article. Could it possibly be from a Right-Wing slanted website? NAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

 

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  posted on 1/12/2009 at 08:08 PM
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Prescott Bush now there was a doozy for ya. His Nazi sympathizer background didn't stop anyone from voting for his son or grandson.


It also didn't stop Joe Kennedy from getting his sons to run for Congress, the Senate, or the Presidency.
So if you're going to go back as far as that, then Caroline Kennedy is also guilty by association, and Teddy is more so.

 

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  posted on 1/12/2009 at 08:19 PM
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The street from seventy years ago or the street from last week featuring the BarryO appointee with socialist ties who's having her image and bio scrubbed? If it's no big deal then why take her name off the Socialist International's Web page?

Why?


Maybe because she quit the org? Maybe she was removed? Nobody is hiding anything. Her bio is out there for everyone to read. Now, are you going to address the fact that you are being a world class hypocrite with regards to this stuff? Do I need to find more examples of comparisons you will not want to see?

 

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  posted on 1/12/2009 at 08:21 PM
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Prescott Bush now there was a doozy for ya. His Nazi sympathizer background didn't stop anyone from voting for his son or grandson.


It also didn't stop Joe Kennedy from getting his sons to run for Congress, the Senate, or the Presidency.
So if you're going to go back as far as that, then Caroline Kennedy is also guilty by association, and Teddy is more so.


Joe Kennedy was not a Nazi sympathizer. What the hell are you talking about?

 

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  posted on 1/12/2009 at 08:22 PM
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Prescott Bush now there was a doozy for ya. His Nazi sympathizer background didn't stop anyone from voting for his son or grandson.


It also didn't stop Joe Kennedy from getting his sons to run for Congress, the Senate, or the Presidency.
So if you're going to go back as far as that, then Caroline Kennedy is also guilty by association, and Teddy is more so.


Joe Kennedy was not a Nazi sympathizer. What the hell are you talking about?


You don't remember your history very much do you?
Look up why he was recalled as Ambassador to England.

 

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Prescott Bush now there was a doozy for ya. His Nazi sympathizer background didn't stop anyone from voting for his son or grandson.


It also didn't stop Joe Kennedy from getting his sons to run for Congress, the Senate, or the Presidency.
So if you're going to go back as far as that, then Caroline Kennedy is also guilty by association, and Teddy is more so.


Joe Kennedy was not a Nazi sympathizer. What the hell are you talking about?


You don't remember your history very much do you?
Look up why he was recalled as Ambassador to England.


I honestly don't know what his mind set was. I'll take your word. However it's clear that his sons were not like minded, as Bush's are.

 

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  posted on 1/12/2009 at 08:32 PM
Charles Lindburgh supported Hitler too, if I'm not mistaken.

 

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Ok, and? Bush has family Nazi ties. Who really cares? Why is it important?




Because it was last week not seventy years ago.

[Edited on 1/12/2009 by RBK]


but wait a minute... guilt by association remember? Heck, if you are from the same state and in the same party, youre guilty of .... something? Being family members with a Nazi sympathizer surely means ... something? Hows that two way street working out for you?



Sarah Palin has ties to drug dealers.

So does Rush Limbaugh.

Have a nice day.

 

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Ok, and? Bush has family Nazi ties. Who really cares? Why is it important?




Because it was last week not seventy years ago.

[Edited on 1/12/2009 by RBK]


but wait a minute... guilt by association remember? Heck, if you are from the same state and in the same party, youre guilty of .... something? Being family members with a Nazi sympathizer surely means ... something? Hows that two way street working out for you?



Sarah Palin has ties to drug dealers.

So does Rush Limbaugh.

Have a nice day.


Did I miss something or did RBK make an anti Bush post?

 

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Charles Lindburgh supported Hitler too, if I'm not mistaken.


Yep, and John F. Kennedy had an affair with a KNOWN German operative (Inga Arvad), that caused him to lose his security clearances and resulted in his hasty relocation to the South Pacific.

And if you want to read about Joe, Sr., go to this link.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=65c_1210941294

 

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Prescott Bush now there was a doozy for ya. His Nazi sympathizer background didn't stop anyone from voting for his son or grandson.


It also didn't stop Joe Kennedy from getting his sons to run for Congress, the Senate, or the Presidency.
So if you're going to go back as far as that, then Caroline Kennedy is also guilty by association, and Teddy is more so.


Joe Kennedy was not a Nazi sympathizer. What the hell are you talking about?


You don't remember your history very much do you?
Look up why he was recalled as Ambassador to England.


I honestly don't know what his mind set was. I'll take your word. However it's clear that his sons were not like minded, as Bush's are.


Never, ever, take the word of a conservative at face value. Ever.

Past that, he wasnt "involved" with the Nazis as Jerry is implying. That was Prescott Bush.

 

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BTW, we are getting way off the point here. The point is, no matter who they are, what happened, where it happened or how it happened, you cannot automatically presume guilt by association to the degree that RBK is trying to imply wrongdoing on the part of Obama.

 

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"Socialist ties"?

Tell me RBK, are you really practicing McCarthy-era tactics that were rejected nearly 50 years ago?

I guess it's nothing new. If this were four hundred years ago, you'd say someone in his cabinet was a witch. If this were three hundred years ago, you'd say someone in his cabinet had ties to indians and the French. If this were two hundred years ago, you'd say someone in his cabinet had ties to abolitionists. If this were a hundred years ago, you'd say someone in his cabinet had ties to anarchists. If this were fifty years ago, you'd suggest they were a communist-sympathizer.

Nothing changes. You and those who think like you are the greatest enemy to the United States because you prey on the fears of other Americans.

 

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  posted on 1/13/2009 at 12:50 AM
And yet he still became president. So much for inuendo:

The early 1940s marked a changing of the guard in the Kennedy clan. Joseph Kennedy, Sr.'s political star was in eclipse–in the country at large, because of his support for appeasement while Ambassador to Great Britain, and in the Democratic party in specific, because of his opposition, in 1940, to Franklin Delano Roosevelt's nomination to run for a historically-unprecedented third term as President of the United States. His children, however, were on the rise. Kathleen Kennedy, JFK's favorite sibling, was working for a newspaper in Washington, and being romanced by the social elite of both the U.S. and Great Britain. Joseph Kennedy, Jr. vigorously opposed U.S. involvement in World War II while at Harvard Law School, but once Pearl Harbor was bombed by the Japanese, he enlisted in the Naval Aviation Cadet Program, and was soon flying missions over Europe. Meanwhile, JFK (now "Ensign Kennedy") was working for Naval Intelligence in Washington, and sleeping with a Danish beauty named Inga Arvad, who worked as a columnist for the same paper as Kathleen. An exotic, well-traveled woman, Inga had connections to Nazi leaders, a circumstance which eventually got JFK in trouble with his superior officers. The young ensign was reassigned to a bureaucratic post in South Carolina, and his romance with the Danish beauty fizzled.

 

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Prescott Bush now there was a doozy for ya. His Nazi sympathizer background didn't stop anyone from voting for his son or grandson.


It also didn't stop Joe Kennedy from getting his sons to run for Congress, the Senate, or the Presidency.
So if you're going to go back as far as that, then Caroline Kennedy is also guilty by association, and Teddy is more so.


Joe Kennedy was not a Nazi sympathizer. What the hell are you talking about?


You don't remember your history very much do you?
Look up why he was recalled as Ambassador to England.


I honestly don't know what his mind set was. I'll take your word. However it's clear that his sons were not like minded, as Bush's are.


Never, ever, take the word of a conservative at face value. Ever.

Past that, he wasnt "involved" with the Nazis as Jerry is implying. That was Prescott Bush.


Actually ST, I'm probably more liberal in my thoughts and leanings than you are.

Also you obviously didn't go to the link provided. How about a condensed version?

http://www.ytedk.com/hitler.htm

 

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  posted on 1/13/2009 at 11:43 AM
It seems Joe Kennedy was a Nazi sympathizer but not directly involved with them, unlike Prescott Bush. Here is an excerpt from an article and then a link about Bush. Very interesting reading.

Loftus - Your stories will be the crack in the dam and it will come flooding out. For 60 years, it has been a huge cover-up of the activities of some of the people who brought us the worst grief in the history of the world - the Holocaust. This country needs to understand which of its most prominent families supported Hitler, even after the US went to war with Germany.

Buchanan - Can you offer a good example?

Loftus - Joseph Kennedy bought his Nazi stocks from Prescott Bush. The British thought Kennedy was guilty of treason because his code clerk was tried in London as a Nazi agent and convicted.

Buchanan - How do you account for the failure of the media to break this story before the Gazette did?

Loftus - My feeling is that about 15 years ago, when big corporations started taking over media companies that had been privately owned by families or individuals, we ended up with an over-worked but well-intentioned media without the staff or resources, in light of all the corporate cost-cutting that was done, to look into the really big stories. The real enemy is the multinational corporations who are only interested in profits and choose profits over truth.

Buchanan - What can be done about that?

Loftus - We need to educate the media.

Buchanan - Should Prescott Bush, George Herbert Walker and the Harrimans have been tried for treason?

Loftus - Yes, they should have been tried for treason, because they continued to support Hitler after the US entered the war. As a former prosecutor, I could have made that case.



http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

 

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  posted on 1/13/2009 at 12:37 PM
What's next.. GHWB was shooting at US planes when he was a Navy Pilot ?

 

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