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  posted on 1/8/2009 at 09:07 PM
I thought this was an excellent article on Watkins Glenn very enjoyable.

http://www.chronos-historical.org/rockfest/articles/WG1.html

 

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  posted on 1/8/2009 at 09:21 PM
That's just lifted from the book AQUARIUS RISING that was published in 1980. It can be purchased on ebay from time to time.

Robert Santelli's book is pretty interesting as it discusses rock festivals such as Woodstock, Altamont, Texas Pop, Atlanta Pop, Watkins Glen. There are some errors though. For example, in the chapter about Monterey, he mentions that Laura Nyro was booed offstage. However, in reality this never happened. She received a good reception. (This erronious report has become rather widespread and many other people still write about it).

I notice that in the Watkins Glen chapter, the author makes a few errors in regards to the songs the Grateful Dead performed. They didn't play "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," "Friend of the Devil," "Ripple," nor "Me and Bobby McGee." And "Not Fade Way" wasn't performed until all three bands did their final jam.

[Edited on 1/9/2009 by BarrySmith]

 

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  posted on 1/8/2009 at 09:26 PM
Thanks for posting that article! Much appreciated....

A note: My parents have NOT admitted to conceiving me on the race track...but my mom did serve pb&j's to about 50 hungry folks who were walking along the road past our house after leaving their cars parked in the streets back in '73 on the way to some little concert. hehe

Watkins Glen is a very cool place to visit. I was born about 1 mile from there, and have many close relatives who still live in the area, including my dad, aunt and grandmother. I was just there last weekend. It's a beautiful town, 12 months out of the year.

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  posted on 1/8/2009 at 09:29 PM
Also, I was fortunate enough to gain a copy of The Band's show at this most memorable concert a few years back. It is complete with the thunder throughout their show. They sure made the most of their three-hour stint onstage.

What a trip that must have been! To see the pictures of the people, all gathered so close together, that many ~ more than half a million fans ~ to make it to the bathroom and find your partner or friend afterwards must have been quite a feat.

Wow.



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  posted on 1/8/2009 at 09:57 PM
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Also, I was fortunate enough to gain a copy of The Band's show at this most memorable concert a few years back. It is complete with the thunder throughout their show. They sure made the most of their three-hour stint onstage.

What a trip that must have been! To see the pictures of the people, all gathered so close together, that many ~ more than half a million fans ~ to make it to the bathroom and find your partner or friend afterwards must have been quite a feat.

Wow.



[Edited on 1/9/2009 by Mudflapgirl]


Cool Mudflapgirl!!!!!!!!!!

And beware of the bogus "The Band at Watkins Glen" CD that was released in 1995. It contains little if any actual Watkins Glen music. However a rough but listenable and complete audience recording is a great addition to any Band fan's collection!!

 

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  posted on 1/8/2009 at 10:22 PM
Thanks PhillyBob .... I don't think I've ever seem this article.... But it sure brings back the memories..and what great ones they were... I also really don't remember being smashed in like sardines... we had a very good spot up by the front of the stage center left... the stage was HIGH . I do remember the rehearsal and it was rocking....
I'm happy in my young life I didn't miss this one.. It was bitter sweet about the Woodstock miss , but this certainly made up for it.
I have made mention on these threads that I know I saw either Robbie or Rick taking movie pictures of US the audience... I remember so well because the guy next to me, put me on his shoulders and Robbie/rick was filming right at that time....so I began to wave to them and they were all smiling and waving back at me.

lots of hippie love , lots of hippie music......lots of fun,,,,,

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  posted on 1/9/2009 at 08:45 AM
On the third page of the article is a photograph of a fan sitting on top of a telephone pole. To the left is a speaker stand with two guys on it. The man with the hat is my brother Twiggs Lyndon. My brother A. J. was also a roadie with the band at that time. He had had just started working with the ABB. His first gig was Madison Square Garden and his second gig was Watkins Glenn! He has some interesting stories about the event. Maybe I can get some time to post them some day.
 

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  posted on 1/9/2009 at 08:59 AM
John, the hat is the giveaway that it's Twiggs. I bet Twiggs was having a blast from that view.

 

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  posted on 1/9/2009 at 09:07 AM
Big Dave, You are right about the hat (which we still have). I gave his windbreaker jacket with all the patches to Kirk West and the Big House sometime back. Last time I saw it, it was hanging next to Duane's shirt.
 

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  posted on 1/9/2009 at 09:28 AM
The Allmans Watkins Glen set needs to be released in its entirety. This is my choice for the next archival release. What a great show.

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  posted on 1/9/2009 at 10:40 AM
Hey Barry,
I sure would love to hear soundboards of the ABB, Dead, & The Band (their real performance)......
It's a great memory that I can barely remember....
Still think Duane shows should be the Archives first priority......
ahh, but that's just me....


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  posted on 1/9/2009 at 10:45 AM
BTW, anyone know how that dude got down from that pole? I'm sure (though not by experience) that it is easier to climb UP a pole than to find a way down.

What a vantage point, though!

 

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  posted on 1/9/2009 at 11:13 AM
Thanks Phillybob! -- those boxes of water, great -- same w/the shot of the toilets -- really would like to visit someday, the Finger Lakes region of NY state is scenic -- things were REAL scenic that weekend -- one of the best of my life

 

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  posted on 1/9/2009 at 11:44 AM
Speaking of Watkins Glen, here's something that RedDog posted today in the GB on this very subject...
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Over on Dickey's site I posted this. Thought I would bring it over here just incase someone here wants to read it. They were talking about the greatest gig to ever go down. Watkins Glen, New Youk

The Glen. That was more than likely the greatest gig to ever go down. Three bands and a half million people with an other quarter of a million who were still trying to get to the gig. People stopped their cars on the inter state and locked them up. Then took off walking saying they could get to the gig faster if they walked.

I will take this gig back to it conception. My Idea. Glad to say that. Now the band does not know it was my idea. This was back when separation started creeping into the band. I walked into brother Bunky Odom's office and told him if you want to make some money, then Book the Brothers and the Dead some where up state New York. I told him put any other band as the third act. He said how about Bob Dylan, I said that is cool. A short time later I was in his office and he said he could not get Bob. He said how about the Band. Heck that was fine by me. I just wanted to do an out door gig up state NY. We got there about three days before the gig and people were already there. First day we could drive into the gig. Next day there were so many people there that we had to be flown in by a helicopter. Not being gross but snap your fingers and you could get a lady. The crews stayed at the gig. WE did not go back to the hotel. I stayed at the gig from the time I got there till it was over. I never saw a hotel. Did not need one. They had trailers for dressing rooms and that is where I slept. The stage was about thirty feet high and I think it was about 80 to 100 feet wide. ^0 feet deep. WE had plenty of room to do our thing. It was great working with the crews from the dead. Which that was always a treat. Add the Bands Roadies and we had one heck of a ball. We partied hard. I mean hard. Plus we got the job done and that was the most important thing. Get the gear ready and lets play. On the second day. The crowd had grown to well over a couple of hundred thousand people. So the day before the gig. The Dead came out and did a sound check, which turned into a five hour show. The Brothers came on after the Dead and did our sound check which was about an other five hour deal. So what the people got was a one day show that turned into a two days show. The music just got better and better. The day of the show. The Dead came out and played for about five hours and then the band came on. They played for about four hours. While the band was on day light left and night time came. Then the brothers took the stage and played for about five hours. Then members from all three bands came out and Jammed till the wee hours of the morning. This was back when you really got your moneys worth at a concert. I still say this was the greatest gig to ever go down. My opinion, but I think I got it right. In my heart I know it was. There were still so many people there, we had to fly out of the gig, to get to the hotel, so we could go to the next gig. Great time by all. I was on cloud nine. The only thing that could have made it better was if Duane and Berry had still been with us. Twiggs did make this gig. I think JoeDan was off playing with the great band GrinderSwitch. For some reason that is not clear in my head. I do think I am right. Everybody have a great day. Its a TBow day.

 

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  posted on 1/9/2009 at 12:00 PM
Regarding the crowds. When the show started the back of the crowd was probably 2 to 3 football fields deep but your could weave your way toward the front since most people had spread blankets out and it wasn't that tight.
At the end of the show which was the jam of all three bands you could walk up to within 100 feet of the stage.
The surrounding woods were not packed. Our campsite was spread out with two tents and four cars.

 

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  posted on 1/9/2009 at 12:00 PM
Johnny talks about the gig in his book and has some interesting stories that go along with what reddog wrote. Only Johnny did get back to the hotel....eventually...the helicopter he was riding in ran out of gas midflight. You gotta wonder how messed up someone is to not notice they're about out of gas in a helicopter!

 

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  posted on 1/9/2009 at 12:16 PM
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The Grateful Dead returned shortly before noon on Saturday to officially open Summer Jam in front of 600,000 people stretched out over every available inch of raceway property.

We heard, from a reliable source, that the ABB had insisted on headlining the show. They were at a height in their popularity at the time, and could well make such a demand. We were big fans of theirs, and got turned on to the Dead through them (first at RFK Stadium).

This source also informed us that the Dead didn't think it right for The Band to have to open the show on their "home turf", so they volunteered to open. This act of unselfishness endeared us to them from that day on 'til Jerry's passing. We ended up moving from Jersey to California in 1980, from where we would see them 20-30 times a year through 1995.

While living in California, we were only able to see the ABB a few times, the first being at Shoreline Amphitheater in Mountain View during their reunion tour of '89. With the addition of Warren, I knew that they were "back"! After that show, we caught them every time they ventured out there.

In 2005, I suffered a stroke, and we moved back to Jersey to be close to both our families. Our first ABB show, after returning, was at Homdel in '06 and, once again, we were "blown away"! My life with the ABB has come "full circle"!

What a long strange trip it's been!


BTW, we were just to the left of that speaker stand in the first picture on page one.
I still have my "Ball and Boogie" T-shirt from the show.

Thanks for the article link, Phillybob!

 

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  posted on 1/9/2009 at 03:24 PM
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Regarding the crowds. When the show started the back of the crowd was probably 2 to 3 football fields deep but your could weave your way toward the front since most people had spread blankets out and it wasn't that tight.
At the end of the show which was the jam of all three bands you could walk up to within 100 feet of the stage.
The surrounding woods were not packed. Our campsite was spread out with two tents and four cars.

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We were about one third of the way back from the stage and were not that close, but it was amazing to turn around and see how many people were behind us. I remember that a lot of the crowd was passed out during a lot of the Dead's opening set, but we got some cloud cover (before the rain showers) and the Dead swung into Sugar Magnolia and the crowd seemed to come alive and stand up to dance along with the band and the jams were on!

 

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