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[color=red] Obama Will NOT Save The Country [/color]



Obama Will NOT Save The Country. First of all, he’s not eligible to be President of the United States. Here we have the Ambassador of Kenya confirming Barack Obama born in Kenya, making him ineligible. And second, Obama’s economic advisor is in the Skull and Bones secret society.

For those who think Skull and Bones is just a regular fraternity at Yale University, think again. Yale graduate and New York Times bestselling author Alexandra Robbins interviewed over 100 Bonesmen for her book “Secrets of the Tomb”.

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… Skull and Bones has curled its tentacles into every reach of American society. This tiny club has set up networks that have thrust three members to the most powerful political position in the world. And its power is only increasing - the 2004 Presidential election might showcase the first time each ticket has been led by a Bonesman. The secret society now, as one historian admonishes, is "'an international mafia' . . . unregulated and all but unknown." In its quest to create a New World Order that restricts individual freedoms and places ultimate power solely in the hands of a small cult of wealthy, prominent families, Skull and Bones has already succeeded in infiltrating nearly every major research, policy, financial, media, and government institution in the country. Skull and Bones, in fact, has been running the United States for years.

… During initiation, which involves ritualistic psychological conditioning, the juniors wrestle in mud and are physically beaten - this stage of the ceremony represents their "death" to the world as they have known it. They then lie naked in coffins, masturbate, and reveal to the society their innermost sexual secrets. … It is during this initiation that the new members are introduced to the artifacts in the tomb, among them Nazi memorabilia - including a set of Hitler's silverware - dozens of skulls, and an assortment of decorative tchochkes: coffins, skeletons, and innards. They are also introduced to "the Bones whore," the tomb's only full-time resident, who helps to ensure that the Bonesmen leave the tomb more mature than when they entered.

... Bonesmen are automatically offered jobs at the many investment banks and law firms dominated by their secret society brothers. They are also given exclusive access to the Skull and Bones island, a lush retreat built for millionaires, with a lavish mansion and a bevy of women at the members disposal.

… Several Bonesmen have been senators, congressmen, Supreme Court justices, and cabinet officials. There is a Bones cell in the CIA, which uses Skull and Bones as a recruiting ground because the members are so obviously adept at keeping secrets. Society members dominate financial institutions such as J.P. Morgan, Morgan Stanley Dean Witter, and Brown Brothers Harriman, where at one time more than a third of the partners were Bonesmen. Through these companies, Skull and Bones provided financial backing to Adolf Hitler because the society then followed a Nazi - and now follows a neo-Nazi - doctrine. At least one dozen Bonesmen have been linked to the Federal Reserve, including the first Chairman of the New York Federal Reserve. Skull and Bones members control the wealth of the Rockefeller, Carnegie, and Ford families.

Skull and Bones has also taken steps to control the American media. Two of its members founded the law firm that represents the New York Times. Plans for both Time and Newsweek magazines were hatched in the Skull and Bones tomb. The society has controlled publishing houses such as Farrar, Straus, & Giroux. In the 1880s, Skull and Bones created the American Historical Association, the American Psychological Association, and the American Economic Association so that the society could ensure that history would be written under its terms and promote its objectives. The society then installed its own members as the presidents of these associations.

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More excerpts available here.


Watch this ABC News clip from 1981 for information on the Global Elite’s “hangout”, Bohemian Grove.
Do you know these people worship a stone owl? Watch the ABC video.


Here’s a quote from former presidential advisor David Gergen concerning the $700 billion bailout.
Notice how he protects the criminals (last two sentences):

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It seemed for -- to a lot of people at a grassroots level, this is $700 billion for rich people, to bail them out for their mistakes and to help them through things.

In fact, these toxic assets are there in part because there was some misdeeds. And I think that, yes, but we have also got to be careful how we describe it. I think we have to make -- not make this just about villains.

The truth is, one of the reasons we got into this is that incomes in this country have been going sideways and down, and a lot of people couldn't afford houses. they couldn't afford the down payments on homes.

And, so, they were in trouble. And the real issue is, how do you restore good jobs in this country, good jobs, at the grassroots level, so middle-income Americans can in fact afford homing -- homes again?

That is -- that is as much the villain here as anything else. So, I don't think it benefits us to say it's simply a bunch of scalawags or crooks who got us into this trouble. I think it's a much deeper, more pervasive problem than that.

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The Truth is Gergen attended the Bohemian Grove’s owl worshiping ritual.
Here’s the video of Gergen’s own admission! At least Gergen told the Washington Times that he did NOT run around the woods naked with the others at Bohemian Grove.


Christopher Story, Editor and Publisher of International Currency Review, explains the $700 billion bailout was nothing more than on-the-books cash for the criminals’ new trading platform:

Latest False Prospectus From 'Paulson's' Treasury
Deceitful Transfer Of Bank Assets To Buyer Without Recourse

Secondary Sausages From The D.C. Sausage Machine
Washington Theatre Diverts Attention From The Primary Sausages


The bailout bill is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

Obama voted FOR the unconstitutional bailout. Incidentally, he also voted FOR the Patriot Act.

See this link for more “dirt” on Obama:
Why I FEAR Obama like no other, like no other


[color=red]Why didn’t CNN/FOX see to it that every American knew the following information?[/color]

May 5, 2008 - New York Times
Government Intensifies Mortgage Investigation

June 19, 2008 - CBS/Associated Press
FBI Cracks Down On Mortgage Fraud
400 Real Estate Industry Players Indicted; Victims Lost More Than $1 Billion In Various Scheme

[color=red]June 19, 2008 - CBS/Associated Press[/color]
Bear Stearns Pair Surrenders To Feds
Ex-Hedge Fund Managers Face Criminal Charges Over Misleading Investors On Subprime Market
[color=red](Misleading title. They did not voluntarily surrender, they were forcibly arrested!)[/color]

September 23, 2008 - CNN
FBI probing bailout firms
Investigators start to search for fraud at Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Lehman Brothers and AIG, sources say.

[color=red]September 29, 2008 - Associated Press[/color]
Fannie, Freddie disclose subpoenas, investigations

October 28, 2008 - New York Times
F.B.I. Struggles to Handle Financial Fraud Cases

[color=red]June 2, 2008 - UK Telegraph[/color]
Safety deposit box raids yield £1bn of drugs, cash and guns
Police have seized a potential £1 billion “treasure trove” of cash, drugs and guns in an unprecedented raid on concrete vaults holding 7,000 safety deposit boxes.

[color=red]June 13, 2008 - UK Telegraph[/color]
Police seize £53 million in security box raids
Detectives have seized £53.5 million in cash, four guns and a large number of gold bars after unprecedented raids on concrete vaults holding almost 7,000 safety deposit boxes

[color=red]October 31, 2008 - World Reports Limited[/color]
Blair Has ‘Rolled Over’ To Avoid Arrest And Jail
‘Shops’ The Pope, Merkel, Deutsche Bank, Hungary And The Octopus


With Americans continuing their silly left vs right debates, the Global Elite dominate and control. Their plan? A New World Order, as George Bush Sr called for in a speech to a Joint Session of Congress on September 11, 1990. Bush Sr, Bush Jr, and even GrandDaddy Prescott Bush are all on the membership roster of Skull and Bones. John Kerry, who ran against Bush in 2004, is also in Skull and Bones. John Bolton, who worked with numerous Republican presidential administrations, is a Bonesman. So is Obama’s economic adviser, Austan Goolsbee. The same with Washington Post editor Dana Milbank.

How much worse will this country need to get before YOU do something?

The retail industry is collapsing:

Circuit City is closing 155 of its 700 stores.
Linens 'n Things and The Sharper Image are closing ALL stores.


What will save the country? Distribution of the multi-trillion dollar Settlement package.

See Christopher Story’s article below. It is important to note that even though Obama is publicly pushing for the Settlement package, he really works with the Global Elite. The Global Elite run both democrats AND republicans. Obama has his own agenda!

December 3, 2008 - World Reports Limited
Washington Exposed As Secretly Financing Al-Qaeda

* Biggest Terrorism Scandal In World History Unfolding Before Our Eyes
* Secret Room Inside Morgan Stanley Funding Al-Qaeda And Global Terrorism
* Cover-Up Operations 'Blown': Washington Has Been Financing Global Terror

[color=red](Note: Story’s claim that NESARA is dead is false. See here for info.)[/color]


So, what can you do to help the country? Simple. Check here and here and DO it. Encourage others as well.

Don’t waste time - just do it!

 
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  posted on 12/5/2008 at 11:57 AM
You do know, of course, that both of the Bush presidents were in the Skull and Bones as were John Kerry and William F. Buckley just to name a few. What's your point?

 

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  posted on 12/5/2008 at 12:01 PM
The first link is ridiculous. I'm done.

 

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  posted on 12/5/2008 at 12:02 PM
Wow, that's quite a post. I plan to look at it over the weekend. Especially the part about David Gergen worshipping a stone owl. Should be a hoot!
 

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  posted on 12/5/2008 at 12:04 PM
Damn, I wish I read this before I voted.

 

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  posted on 12/5/2008 at 12:05 PM
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Wow, that's quite a post. I plan to look at it over the weekend. Especially the part about David Gergen worshipping a stone owl. Should be a hoot!


Bohemian Grove is interesting, I'll give cb_brooklyn that.

 

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  posted on 12/5/2008 at 12:06 PM
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Wow, that's quite a post. I plan to look at it over the weekend. Especially the part about David Gergen worshipping a stone owl. Should be a hoot!


Good one.

 

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  posted on 12/5/2008 at 12:09 PM
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Wow, that's quite a post. I plan to look at it over the weekend. Especially the part about David Gergen worshipping a stone owl. Should be a hoot!


Wait til' you get to the what we should do about it part.

 

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  posted on 12/5/2008 at 12:12 PM
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Obama Will NOT Save The Country. First of all, he’s not eligible to be President of the United States. Here we have the Ambassador of Kenya confirming Barack Obama born in Kenya, making him ineligible.


When a poster shows a complete misunderstanding of U.S. civics in his/her very first statement (second sentence, to be precise), I'm comfortable ignoring the rest of what he/she has to say.



 

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Obama Will NOT Save The Country. First of all, he’s not eligible to be President of the United States. Here we have the Ambassador of Kenya confirming Barack Obama born in Kenya, making him ineligible.


When a poster shows a complete misunderstanding of U.S. civics in his/her very first statement (second sentence, to be precise), I'm comfortable ignoring the rest of what he/she has to say.






Did you catch the part about the confirmation coming from Mike In The Morning?

 

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  posted on 12/5/2008 at 12:17 PM
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For those who think Skull and Bones is just a regular fraternity at Yale University, think again. Yale graduate and New York Times bestselling author Alexandra Robbins interviewed over 100 Bonesmen for her book “Secrets of the Tomb”.
This book is amusing. Your post is even more so. Check here for my reasoning!

 

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  posted on 12/5/2008 at 12:19 PM
As per the 12th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution:

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.


Having posted this, I still do not Know where President Elect Obama was born. Is this, in deed a mystery? Seems like somebody would've discovered the truth, no matter what it is before the election.

 

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Obama Will NOT Save The Country. First of all, he’s not eligible to be President of the United States. Here we have the Ambassador of Kenya confirming Barack Obama born in Kenya, making him ineligible.


When a poster shows a complete misunderstanding of U.S. civics in his/her very first statement (second sentence, to be precise), I'm comfortable ignoring the rest of what he/she has to say.

Well, the Supreme Court is going to hear one of the suits concerning BHO's non-native born status, it was reported yesterday. It likely won't go anywhere, but it's pending.





 

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As per the 12th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution:

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.


Having posted this, I still do not Know where President Elect Obama was born. Is this, in deed a mystery? Seems like somebody would've discovered the truth, no matter what it is before the election.



So you're saying his birth certificate is a fake?

 

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  posted on 12/5/2008 at 12:24 PM
I'm not saying anything. I'm just wondering if there really is any controversy or dispute over his birthplace. If I knew, I wouldn't ask.

 

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I've read there are two theories under which Obama's citizenship is being questioned. First they're saying he was not born in Hawaii. However Hawaii has a provision that allows its citizens to give birth outside the country and as long as you've declare you were a resident of Hawaii for a year, your child will have been said to be born in Hawaii. This may be the case with Obama.

Let me say to that, I have a granddaughter who was born on the German economy and she is a natural American citizen because she was born to an American mother, and her case, father. I don't see why this is different in Obama's case since his mother was obviously an American at the time of his birth.

Second avenue of contention is that his mother supposedly renounced her American citizenship when she married her husband and became a resident of his country. I don't know whether or not that's true but let's say it was.....I don't know that a parent can voluntarily give up a child's citizenship to this country. Also, she did return to America and as far as I know was a citizen when she died.

I see this as a loop hole people are trying to exploit to cast aspersions on Obama. If he wasn't a citizen, it's a little strange he got to this level without it being discovered before.

 

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Let me say to that, I have a granddaughter who was born on the German economy and she is a natural American citizen because she was born to an American mother, and her case, father. I don't see why this is different in Obama's case since his mother was obviously an American at the time of his birth.



Which is an excellent point. John McCain was born in the PCZ.

 

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Hawaii statehood August 18, 1959
US citizen Barak Obama born August 4, 1961




 

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I'm not saying anything. I'm just wondering if there really is any controversy or dispute over his birthplace. If I knew, I wouldn't ask.


There is no controversy. Officials in the state of Hawaii confirmed the authenticity of his birth certificate several months ago.

 

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I cannot see the election being reversed at this point - for any reason. If this was indeed a viable argument against his eligibility, the Repub's blew it by not bringing it up in the correct forum sooner.

 

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The backwards B syndrome .

 

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The backwards B syndrome .
LOL ... invasive little sucker, huh?

 

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Obama Will NOT Save The Country. First of all, he’s not eligible to be President of the United States. Here we have the Ambassador of Kenya confirming Barack Obama born in Kenya, making him ineligible.


When a poster shows a complete misunderstanding of U.S. civics in his/her very first statement (second sentence, to be precise), I'm comfortable ignoring the rest of what he/she has to say.



Well, I'm not sure exactly what you are referring to...Obama being born in Kenya, or whether if this were true that he would be inelgiible to be president...but I'll assume it is the latter. The fact is, there has always been some debate over the term "natural born citizen" which carries on to this day. The term is used to describe eligibility for being president/vice-president, but the term is not defined in the Constitution, and in the years since has been defined in various ways.

What makes debate this moot is that Obama has a legal birth certificate from Hawaii, and until that document is shown to be a fake then he is eligible.

What is really interesting about all this furor around his eligibilty (at least to me) is that if you go the Wiki page on natural born citizenship, there is a section at the end that lists presidential candidates born outside the US (one of whom,Chester Arthur, eventually served as president). Obama is not listed on that page, but look who is...

John McCain, who ran for the Republican party nomination in 2000 and was the Republican nominee in 2008, was born in 1936 at the Coco Solo Naval Air Station in the Panama Canal Zone to U.S. parents.[18] In March 2008 McCain was held eligible for Presidency in an opinion paper by former Solicitor General Ted Olson and Harvard Law Professor Laurence H. Tribe.[19] In April 2008 the US Senate approved a non-binding resolution recognizing McCain's status as a natural born citizen.[20] In September 2008 a Federal District judge said obiter that it was "highly probable" that McCain was a natural born citizen of the United States owing to the citizenship legislation existing at the time.[21][22] These views have been criticized by Gabriel J. Chin, Professor of Law at the University of Arizona, who claims that McCain was at birth a citizen of Panama and was only retroactively declared a born citizen under 8 U.S.C. § 1403.[23]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born_citizen


 

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I've read there are two theories under which Obama's citizenship is being questioned. First they're saying he was not born in Hawaii. However Hawaii has a provision that allows its citizens to give birth outside the country and as long as you've declare you were a resident of Hawaii for a year, your child will have been said to be born in Hawaii. This may be the case with Obama.

Let me say to that, I have a granddaughter who was born on the German economy and she is a natural American citizen because she was born to an American mother, and her case, father. I don't see why this is different in Obama's case since his mother was obviously an American at the time of his birth.

Second avenue of contention is that his mother supposedly renounced her American citizenship when she married her husband and became a resident of his country. I don't know whether or not that's true but let's say it was.....I don't know that a parent can voluntarily give up a child's citizenship to this country. Also, she did return to America and as far as I know was a citizen when she died.

I see this as a loop hole people are trying to exploit to cast aspersions on Obama. If he wasn't a citizen, it's a little strange he got to this level without it being discovered before.


The constitution says natural born citizen. I am not familiar with intepretation of this since I doubt it has ever been an issue but I would assume that would mean as long as one of his parents was American he would be natural born American no matter where he was born.

 

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Hawaii statehood August 18, 1959
US citizen Barak Obama born August 4, 1961







It was still American soil. But it doesn't matter because the constitution says natural born citizen not born on U.S. soil.

 

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