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  posted on 11/26/2008 at 02:51 AM
....was once again on VH1. No matter how many times I see it, it's always incredible. An anthem for my time and I'm sure that speaks for many of you also. So much incredible music in that film and it just takes me back. What a time to grow up with music. And damn, I miss Rick Danko.
 
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  posted on 11/26/2008 at 03:31 AM
I've owned the Last Waltz in many formats, on VHS and DVD, and on cassette, to the monstous 4- Cd box set that came out a few years ago. A great concert with great performances, but according to Levon Helm's autobiography, This Wheel's on Fire, a lot of it was overdubbed. How much we'll never know. Many high points in the show, from Van Morrison doing Caravan to Eric Clapton doing Further on up the Road, To Bob Dylan's Baby Let Me Follow You Down and Hazel (only on the box set), to Muddy doing Mannish Boy and "Evangeline" with Emmylou. Levon looks pissed off in all the interview segments. Garth looks like he'd rather not be interviewed, Richard looks drugged and Rick looks rather disinterested when Martin Scorcese tries to interview him, preferring to play a track from his solo record (Sip the Wine) than be interviewed. The fact that four of them reunited in 1983 reveals that maybe not all of them were in favor of breaking up. Nothing beats the original five-man team of The Band. The Box Set, a Musical History, is a terrific overview from the Ronnie Hawkins days to their break up in 1977. My only beef is that box set didn't include the post-Robertson years (1983-1999), but that wasn't a surprise as Robbie produced the box set.

Anyway, just wanted say I'm a massive Band fan! Got to see them in the early 90's a few times, and yes, I miss Rick Danko too.

[Edited on 11/26/2008 by woodsdweller]

 

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  posted on 11/26/2008 at 07:45 AM
not to mention Neil's rotoscoped coke boogie

 

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  posted on 11/26/2008 at 08:40 AM
Bob Dylan w/The Band @ The Last Waltz

Forever Young>Baby let me follow you down
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TLygQpSiyU

 

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  posted on 11/26/2008 at 09:05 AM
A great Band. Rick Danko and Richard RIP!!!!

 

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  posted on 11/26/2008 at 09:19 AM

 

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  posted on 11/26/2008 at 09:28 AM
After much experimenting I've found that the Last Waltz is best "celebrated" at 2AM, with a bunch of friends, drunk (possibly after a long day of tailgating and watching college football...preferably Georgia Bulldog football), with plenty of room to dance on the funiture and the volume on "11." This has happened many times at my house as well as other friend's houses and everytime has been a great success. Long live the Band and Rick Danko!

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  posted on 11/26/2008 at 09:29 AM
I'll drink and party to that!!!!!!!

 

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  posted on 11/26/2008 at 10:43 AM
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After much experimenting I've found that the Last Waltz is best "celebrated" at 2AM, with a bunch of friends, drunk (possibly after a long day of tailgating and watching college football...preferably Georgia Bulldog football), with plenty of room to dance on the funiture and the volume on "11."



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  posted on 11/26/2008 at 10:56 AM
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After much experimenting I've found that the Last Waltz is best "celebrated" at 2AM, with a bunch of friends, drunk (possibly after a long day of tailgating and watching college football...preferably Georgia Bulldog football), with plenty of room to dance on the funiture and the volume on "11." This has happened many times at my house as well as other friend's houses and everytime has been a great success. Long live the Band and Rick Danko!

Ryan




Sounds like a good plan......

 

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  posted on 11/26/2008 at 11:25 AM
Just watched Festival Express again, couple of great Band cuts. But the Last Waltz is The Grail. I know Seth, you are a premier fan. Watching this stuff, Rick Danko and Richard Manuel were so integral to the group. I need to find that Danko solo album.

 

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  posted on 11/26/2008 at 11:28 AM
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After much experimenting I've found that the Last Waltz is best "celebrated" at 2AM, with a bunch of friends, drunk (possibly after a long day of tailgating and watching college football...preferably Georgia Bulldog football), with plenty of room to dance on the funiture and the volume on "11." This has happened many times at my house as well as other friend's houses and everytime has been a great success. Long live the Band and Rick Danko!

Ryan


That show was on Thanksgiving Eve ... or right at Thanksgiving time, right? So while you're smoking a turkey, why not smoke something else too? Just don't forget which one's which. Not sure which end of A turkey would be best to toke on.

 

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  posted on 11/26/2008 at 11:32 AM
One of the finest music videos. I'm with you - never get tired of watching this one.

 

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  posted on 11/26/2008 at 12:17 PM
There is a very good biography of the Band called "Across the Great Divide" the Band and America. I highly recommend it. Robbie was the one who wanted to break the group up and the others were very reluctant to. Levon Helm has never forgiven Robbie Robertson for his supposed transgressions. Such a shame.

 

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  posted on 11/26/2008 at 12:31 PM
For me,The Last Waltz..The last Day's Of The Fillmore.....& Festival Express are the greatest rock n' Roll movies ever.

 

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  posted on 11/26/2008 at 12:36 PM
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There is a very good biography of the Band called "Across the Great Divide" the Band and America. I highly recommend it. Robbie was the one who wanted to break the group up and the others were very reluctant to. Levon Helm has never forgiven Robbie Robertson for his supposed transgressions. Such a shame.

what was robbies view on ending it??

 

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  posted on 11/26/2008 at 12:51 PM
Loved The Last Waltz... not only was the film great , and outstanding music... but my memory of seeing this film will stay with me forever... I saw it with my boyfriend at the time , who had a serious drug problem that got increasingly worse and eventually he died in 84'.

Favorite song ... Makes No Difference... I tear up almost every time I hear that one..

Rick Danko RIP


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  posted on 11/26/2008 at 01:53 PM
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That whole nonsense "the road is an impossible way of life" speech of his pretty much sums it up.


Yeah, it really struck me the last time I watched it how Robbie was saying stuff like that and in other segments the rest of the band are telling road stories, glorying in the goofy, joyful, vibrant times they'd had. Robbie is saying things like "I can't imagine doing this for 20 years" and the other guys sound like they can't imagine doing anything else.

Folks grow apart and nobody's necessarily wrong for valuing what they value, but the interpersonal backstory of that film is so sad.

RIP Richard and Rick. Nothing can change that "Stage Fright" is one of the most moving records I've ever heard.

 

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  posted on 11/26/2008 at 02:16 PM
As mentioned a few posts up.......A great teenage years memory seeing The Last Waltz at The Zigfeld theater in NYC. I remember seeing it there because of the state of the art sound system that the Zigfeld had. I was 18 - 19 years old , and living in Brooklyn. It was a Friday or Saturday night out with the guys & gals taking a subway into the city , smoking illegal substances between the subway cars , drinking too. Neil Young was a favorite artist amongst the group at that time and I vividly recall how we sparked one up when Neil came on screen , which was unnoticeable in the smoke filled theater. Being able to get away with smoking weed in a movie theater , now those were the days..... I also recall catching the reconfigred band at The Pier on the Hudson one summer and seeing Levon with his band at Mountain Jam this year was a great highlight to this past summer.

 

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  posted on 11/26/2008 at 02:24 PM
Seems to me Richard Manuels tragic cocaine strung out, hotel room hanging are the 100% proof of what Robbie was talking about. The road appears to have killed Richard. Having said that, I hate that so many bands let stuff cause rifts, and then it s too late, as death never waits. Beatles... The Band.... more...... and while subject to opinion, interpretation, the ABB fits somewhat in this category, IMO only......

 

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  posted on 11/26/2008 at 03:47 PM
the ABB fits somewhat in this category, IMO only...... {quote} from bird72...

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  posted on 11/26/2008 at 04:39 PM
"It makes no difference" has a special meaning for me on this Thanksgiving Eve. Ruthie do you remember the PM I sent you about this song and Rick Danko! I will watch "The Last Waltz" on Thanksgiving Day!

 

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  posted on 11/26/2008 at 04:44 PM
The Road (and time in general) seemed to take it's toll on not only Manuel, but Rick as well. He got quite Obese towards the end. It didn't help that he was taking drugs to fight life-long pain from a serious car accident in 1968.
His voice remained beautiful til the end however. The postumously released "Times Like These" shows Rick's spirit was there til the end. Highly recommended CD.

 

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  posted on 11/26/2008 at 05:12 PM
bros & sisters--i say this not to offend,but i wish all this talk about The Band that dredges up all the negativity,talk,rumor,gossip,etc. would stop & we'd talk about this music.

i truly intend not to become an enemy of anyone here,so if ya disagree you are free to say as you choose & i'll respect that.

finally,i say all this,&,i hope you see NOT to brag(i'm too old & who cares?! lol) but because i've known some of the guys in The Band personally, & their management & "people" as neighbors & fellow townspeople for over 30 years & i've spent a good bit of time talking & hanging with them at local gigs,bars,restaraunts,etc. as well as the grand union,the health food store,back of the local club before & after shows,etc

we were attending shows all over the local area & on the road with various incarnations of the post-Waltz reformed Band as well as their solo shows including the years Levon drummed with The Barn Burners until he got his voice back & the many years prior when Levon was broke & forgotten--we went to see Rick & Richard the same way,when they were having tough times.

i've heard,read all of it, & have talked to their people & the people who love them as friends & neighbors, & those who love & admire them focus on the positive

they met my older son & spent nice time with him--they were our people & we were & are deeply loyal because of their pure & decent souls--we were at Rick's funeral & we were & are part of their community & we have a bond--- & that biases me to want to focus on the positive & want to defend their integrity,dignity, & sense of dececy they have.--all i can say is that their depth as people, their righteousness,generosity & kindness to others(including me & my family)is genuine & unique,

we all have problems,screw ups,faults,squabbles,get upset,hurt, & angry--we're human--so are they--but i feel a sense of long time loyalty & that's why i rambled on!

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  posted on 11/26/2008 at 05:51 PM
To dad0f2: You have a connection to The Band that I could never hope to have. All I know about The Band is what I've read in books and on the web. I personally wish I had a personal connection to them but I don't. Please don't consider my comments about them put-downs, disloyal or not positive. I love everything they've ever done and even my parents got to see them backing Ronnie Hawkins back in 1963 when they lived in Peterborough, Ontario. I suppose, just like the ABB, the Band's history is full of triumph and tragedy, and sometimes the tragedy part seeps into the conversation, but it's not meant to be demeaning or anything.

Some favorite Band tunes of mine: Time to Kill, Book Faded Brown, Home Cookin', Rag Mama Rag, Ferdinand the Imposter, Life is a Carnival, Acadian Driftwood, Twilight, All La Glory, Sleeping, Rags and Bones, High Cotton, Move to Japan, Blaze of Glory, Voodoo Blues, Go Go Liza Jane, He Don't Love You, Etc.

 
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