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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 03:29 PM
This weekend i've been having fun enjoying some of Miles Davis' more "controversial" things (well they were controversial back then, but classic and influential now). Back in the late 60s and early 70s he began to take in some of the new funky rock sounds such as Jimi Hendrix, James Brown, and Sly & The Family Stone. He responded with the classic LP, BITCHES BREW (1969). That album has some of the most amazing free form electric music I've ever heard. Lots of electronic sputtering from Chick Corea's fender rhodes, and some fine sputtering from Miles himself.

Right now I'm listening to THE COMPLETE CELLAR DOOR SESSIONS, a box set comprised of sets that were recorded at the Cellar Door in Washington DC in 1970. Just like Bitches Brew, it contains some really cool free form jazz rock. Last night I watched a recently released DVD called ANOTHER KIND OF BLUE which documents the Btiches Brew era and features some rare vintage video (including his complete set from the Isle of Wight Festival).

Any thoughts or comments about Miles Davis and his influence on rock and music in general?

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 03:32 PM
who isnt a miles fan??

 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 03:32 PM
Tribute to Jack Johnson is way cool

 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 03:33 PM
Was unaware of those releases but will have to track them down. thanks.

 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 03:36 PM
Miles is by far my #1 all time favorite Musician.

I have the complete Brew Sessions CD compilation. John McLaughlin is my favorite guitarist so
this collection is one I visit often.

I'll have to look for the DVD you mention, thanks

 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 03:36 PM
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Was unaware of those releases but will have to track them down. thanks.


Also check out ON THE CORNER (1972) and the Fillmore East vault release IT ABOUT THAT TIME!!!!!

 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 03:41 PM
I have fallen away from some of the jazz/fusion genre over the years as I don't get promo copies much anymore. I know that sounds cheap and it is but when you get used to free things then paying is harder.

Plus i like to know that something is real good before diving in and many of these releases are hard to hear without buying them. Which is why I appreciate info and reviews of releases like this.

Barry has similar tastes to mine and always some good musical input. i will take his suggestions and check it out.

 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 04:05 PM
I'm a long time, BIG TIME Miles Davis fan. I have too many albums to mention but here's some: Birth of the Cool, Kind of Blue, Miles and Coltrane, Seven Steps to Heaven, Bitches Brew, Jack Johnson, Get Up With it, On the Corner, Doo-Bop, Amandla, Miles Smiles, Miles/Quincy Jones at Montreux '91, Tutu, At Fillmore, It's About That
Time (Live at the Fillmore East, March 7, 1970), Big Fun, Miles Ahead, Live Around the World, Decoy, Circle in the Round, Agharta, Pangea, In a Silent Way, Nefertiti, Someday my Prince will come, Star People, Milestones, Round Midnight, ESP, and on and on.....



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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 04:24 PM
influence on rock?


listen to "how" Carlos Santana plays a note, he got it from Miles (he says so himself)
, it is about intention. a single note can say more than many notes if played with the purity of intention.
I hear it in David Gilmour also. Derek Trucks "gets it"

doesn't some southern hippy band have "In a Silent way" in their extensive live repertoire?

I read an interview with Warren during an ABB tour a few years ago, and he said the Miles Quintet
Box Set with Tony Williams, Wayne Shorter,Ron Carter and Herbie Hancock was in heavy Rotation on the Bus.

The cats on the Bitches Brew Session were in seminal jazz/rock fusion bands like The Mahavishnu Orchestra, Tony Williams' Lifetime, Return to Forever, etc, etc. the birth of a whole new genre of music.

Miles is a giant of music , one who transcends genre.



 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 05:22 PM
I have to listen to "Spanish Key" at least once a week. "In a Silent Way" is not only covered by the Allmans these days, but just compare it to the intros to "Les Brers" and "High Falls". You know Dickey was still listening to Miles.

 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 05:30 PM
John Mclaughlin and Chick Corea are on tour together. Will be at Lincoln Center April 23-25.
 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 05:31 PM
Miles-The autobiography, by Miles Davis and Qunicy Troupe is a pretty good read. I've gone back and re-read it several times.
 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 05:35 PM
Bitches Brew is a timeless classic. I keep this recording in my vehicle year round. Jack Johnson is classic as well. Any fans of the Live Evil recording?

 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 05:39 PM
Yup. I have Live Evil. Tha's a good one. Interesting artwork on the cover with the lady with the big belly.
 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 05:49 PM
Bitche's Brew,In A Silent Way & Spain are fav's of mine..

 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 07:10 PM
From that era, favorites are In a Silent Way and Tribute to Jack Johnson.

I like that era, but I prefer the Quintet and Sextets with Coltrane, and the earlier years with Herbie, Carter, Williams etc. Plugged Nickel might just be my favorite Miles recording.

I was lucky enough to see him in the late 80's. Past his peak, but still a great musical experience.

There's no doubt imo that anyone who plays improvisational music in any genre owes a debt to Miles.

 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 07:16 PM
this era of music from Miles is a fave but it needs to be defined and dissected in my opinion........

Big Fun, Jack Johnson and Bitches fit together.........

in that 3 or 4 year period a lot happened and he recorded a ton of it.

much of it was a-tonal and too notey (when he has Billy Cobham on drums or John McG on guitar)............too much chaos

some of the live recordings from the era are so out there Live Evil, Cellar Door, Fillmore East.......yeow.

jazz was never the same and still is not..............the people he played with > the bestest.

 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 10:52 PM
bitches brew is probably my favorite album of all time. i named my first born son miles.
 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 11:47 PM
I prefer the two albums that surround it - "SIlent Way" and "Jack Johnson" - maybe their being shorter/ smaller lets me grasp them more completely.

I have not checked out any of the "complete sessions" boxed sets that have come out for some of these albums, but I sure am curious.

 

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  posted on 11/24/2008 at 12:53 AM
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I like that era, but I prefer the Quintet and Sextets with Coltrane, and the earlier years with Herbie, Carter, Williams etc. Plugged Nickel might just be my favorite Miles recording.


you got your quintets backwards in time.

 

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  posted on 11/24/2008 at 01:31 AM
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John Mclaughlin and Chick Corea are on tour together. Will be at Lincoln Center April 23-25.


They're called the Five Peace Band, you can't ask for a better lineup:

Kenny Garrett
Christian McBride
John McLaughlin
Vinnie Colaiuta
Chick Corea

http://www.fivepeaceband.com/

Brian Blade will take over the drum chair for Asian dates and some US dates

I'll be catching the 4-29-09 Strathmore North Bethesda, MD show

 

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  posted on 11/24/2008 at 01:44 AM
I love Chick Corea, just saw him with Return to Forever in August, and I'm glad too because it sounds like the reunion was a one-off and won't happen ever again.
 

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  posted on 11/24/2008 at 01:47 AM
John M. is my favorite guitarist,so I am way into this stuff.Virtually all of Miles sidemen became significant bandleaders.In a Silent Way,Jack Johnson,Bitches Brew were big influences.I saw him live 3 times during that period,too.....wish I had gone many more times.

 

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  posted on 11/24/2008 at 03:07 AM
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I'm a long time, BIG TIME Miles Davis fan. I have too many albums to mention but here's some: Birth of the Cool, Kind of Blue, Miles and Coltrane, Seven Steps to Heaven, Bitches Brew, Jack Johnson, Get Up With it, On the Corner, Doo-Bop, Amandla, Miles Smiles, Miles/Quincy Jones at Montreux '91, Tutu, At Fillmore, It's About That
Time (Live at the Fillmore East, March 7, 1970), Big Fun, Miles Ahead, Live Around the World, Decoy, Circle in the Round, Agharta, Pangea, In a Silent Way, Nefertiti, Someday my Prince will come, Star People, Milestones, Round Midnight, ESP, and on and on.....



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Now that's a Miles fan! I listen to him all the time. I even wear a Miles cap I bought in Memphis. Make sure you hear this one.

 

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  posted on 11/24/2008 at 03:34 AM
LOVE that picture of Miles with Charlie Parker!
 
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