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  posted on 11/22/2008 at 11:57 PM
We all know what happened on that date, so I won't get into much of it, but President Kennedy was going to give a speech when they completed the ride from the airport to the Trade Mart convention.

He didn't deliver that speech, but I'd like to give part of it. In the section before this, he was to outline the many new strengths made by the American People.

" My friends and fellow citizens: I cite these facts and figures to make it clear that America today is stronger than ever before. Our adversaries have not abandoned their ambitions, our dangers have not diminished, our vigilance cannot be relaxed. But now we have the military, the scientific, and the economic strength to do whatever must be done for the preservation and promotion of freedom.

That strength will never be used in pursuit of aggressive ambitions--it will always be used in the pursuit of peace. It will never be used to promote provocations--it will always be used to promote the peaceful settlement of disputes.

We in this country, in this generation, are--by destiny rather than choice--the watchmen on the walls of freedom. We ask, therefore, that we may be worthy of our power and responsibility, that we may exercise our strength with wisdom and restraint, and that we may achieve in our time and for all time the ancient vision of "peace on earth, good will toward men." That must be always our goal, and the righteousness of our cause must underlie our strength. For as it was written long ago: "Except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain."

 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 03:21 AM
Thanks for that....

The first tragic event of my childhood memory was the day President Kennedy was killed...

 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 03:50 AM
The second earliest memory in my life was as a four year old kid living in a very small house on 26th street in Huntington, West Virginia and I had a thing for running around the house with a dry mop. All wooden floors. I remember stopping in place with mop in hand because I noticed that my Mom was crying while looking at the television set. My eyes turned to the right, away from her, to look at the television set and what I saw on the black and white screen was the Kennedy funeral, horse-drawn casket and all. Because it upset my Mom, I noticed it, even though I was only four years old. With JFK, the Modern Age began. We are going to the moon! Yet, history was juiced, and in an atmosphere of the expected human response to juiced up history - C~R~A~C~K!!!!!~~ John F. Kennedy - Medgar Evers - Four teenage girls in the basement of the 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham, Alabama - Malcolm X - Martin Luther King - Robert F. Kennedy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 06:06 AM
I was 10 days old when this happened. Everybody says they know where they were when JFK was shot. I was in an incubator in the maternity ward of Whiston Hospital.

 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 08:14 AM
4th grade Alexander 4 grammar school Macon ...
they wheeled a TV into the classroom from the
AV supply closet ... and we watched all the rest of
the day

 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 08:17 AM
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4th grade Alexander 4 grammar school Macon ...
they wheeled a TV into the classroom from the
AV supply closet ... and we watched all the rest of
the day


elementary school, S.F..............>

 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 08:40 AM
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Thanks for that....

The first tragic event of my childhood memory was the day President Kennedy was killed...


I was 5.

11/22 is my parents anniversary.

Never understand how my sister can never remember the right date.

 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 08:41 AM
Thanks for posting, I had never read the speech that he had planned to give before.

I was six; I don't remember the day he was shot, but I do remember watching the funeral and crying, because the little girl in the White House that was my age had lost her daddy forever.

 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 11:10 AM
I sat close to the TV for several days watching history in the making. Crosstown probably remembers that the school system closed down during that time (I was at Joseph P. Riley, if you remember the schools from back then.)

The part I posted was the last three paragraphs of the speech. Ever since I read the speech, I've felt that he was right about our generation being the "watchdogs on the walls of freedom".

It's something we need to remind ourselves about this Thanksgiving, that we live in a free society while others live in fear of their society.

 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 02:00 PM
I was 2 months shy of my 3rd birthday, so, regretably, I don't remember it. Maybe that's for the better. One of the heaviest days of modern American history...

 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 02:46 PM
I was in the 1st grade...6 years old....

All of the teachers were crying....

 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 02:51 PM
such a shame that his quote........

"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country"

............seems to have been totally reversed now.

 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 03:03 PM
Freshman in High School, sitting in French class when the Principle made the announcement over the PA...first of many sad memories that were served up in the 60's.

 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 03:36 PM
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I sat close to the TV for several days watching history in the making. Crosstown probably remembers that the school system closed down during that time (I was at Joseph P. Riley, if you remember the schools from back then.)

The part I posted was the last three paragraphs of the speech. Ever since I read the speech, I've felt that he was right about our generation being the "watchdogs on the walls of freedom".

It's something we need to remind ourselves about this Thanksgiving, that we live in a free society while others live in fear of their society.


Yeah Jerry ... I remember all of our grammar schools(that what we called them back then,
in the South anyways). Riley was over there in general vicinity of where Macon Mall is, wasn't it? My old Alexander 4 is a cool building from the 20's ... now special-ed facility I hear. Grading system was G,Av,or P. Good, Average, or Poor. I remember I turned up a P in 6th grade arithmetic and considered running away to sea. Dang new math.
Back then there were no middle schools ... grammar was 1-7 ... jr. high 8-9 ... then sr. high. Remember the grammar schools sponsored sports teams back then. I played football and baseball at Alexander 4. All the grammar schools played each other on some sorta schedule ... the championship was determined at Porter Stadium in what we called the "PonyBowl". Seems to me Pearl Stephens was a dynasty of sorts. Those boys had a rep.
I knew a kid who started going to Alex4 in 6/7th grades.. he had transferred from Riley. His name was Steve Pursley. That woulda been like 66/67.

 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 06:13 PM
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... the championship was determined at Porter Stadium in what we called the "PonyBowl". Seems to me Pearl Stephens was a dynasty of sorts. Those boys had a rep.
I knew a kid who started going to Alex4 in 6/7th grades.. he had transferred from Riley. His name was Steve Pursley. That woulda been like 66/67.


Yep, we had football, baseball, and basketball teams. Riley's colors were blue and white (Willingham colors), which we would not wear after getting to Lanier (Orange and Green).

I knew a Steve Pursley. Brown hair, not too goofy looking, played mainly baseball and thought he was a girl's dream. Same guy?

Did you go to Lanier Jr in 66-69?

 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 06:37 PM
Kindergarten on LI, home sick from school that day. My GM was watching me, my mom came home and they started talking about it. Watched the news, funeral etc.

as an aside, went to the JFK museum in Boston for the 1st time this summer.

When I think about what might have been

 

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Kindergarten on LI, home sick from school that day. My GM was watching me, my mom came home and they started talking about it. Watched the news, funeral etc.


Stormy...What part of LI??

I was also in school in LI at the time.....

 

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... the championship was determined at Porter Stadium in what we called the "PonyBowl". Seems to me Pearl Stephens was a dynasty of sorts. Those boys had a rep.
I knew a kid who started going to Alex4 in 6/7th grades.. he had transferred from Riley. His name was Steve Pursley. That woulda been like 66/67.


Yep, we had football, baseball, and basketball teams. Riley's colors were blue and white (Willingham colors), which we would not wear after getting to Lanier (Orange and Green).

I knew a Steve Pursley. Brown hair, not too goofy looking, played mainly baseball and thought he was a girl's dream. Same guy?

Did you go to Lanier Jr in 66-69?


Same guy except for the girls dream part .... never had a gfriend that I remember. Did
have big bro named Bobby. And he was good baseball player.
LanierJr. 67-68 and 68-69 ... which puts me in the 9th grade when our AB's were just
settling in to the hippie crash pad. I was still pretty strait-laced at the time and actually
looking forward to ROTC the next year
Remember how rough Lanier Jr. was? ... surviving that was like "Escape from Alcatraz".
Then the AB ushered in the longhair movement ... and all became right with the world.

 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 07:20 PM
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I knew a Steve Pursley. Brown hair, not too goofy looking, played mainly baseball and thought he was a girl's dream. Same guy?

Did you go to Lanier Jr in 66-69?


Same guy except for the girls dream part .... never had a gfriend that I remember. Did
have big bro named Bobby. And he was good baseball player.
LanierJr. 67-68 and 68-69 ... which puts me in the 9th grade when our AB's were just
settling in to the hippie crash pad. I was still pretty strait-laced at the time and actually
looking forward to ROTC the next year
Remember how rough Lanier Jr. was? ... surviving that was like "Escape from Alcatraz".
Then the AB ushered in the longhair movement ... and all became right with the world.


Remember the infamous "FishBowl", I can't remember the name of the school paper, but I had the feeling that sometimes the writers got into the mimeograph fluid a little too often.
the cafeteria biscuits we used as deadly weapons were pretty cool. Once we actually played a baseball game with one. The smoking wall behind the gym.
Do you remember the "Race Riot That Never Was"?

 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 07:40 PM
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Do you remember the "Race Riot That Never Was"?


Yeah .. wasn't that supposed to happen in that "no-man's land"
strip between that shopping center and the school? I still have
a good memory for names ... and could prob tell you many of the
participants on both sides. One of the white kids eventually reached
a high position on the Macon Police Dept. ... bet you know him too.
I don't remember the full story about why it didn't happen ... but I do
remember all the talk about it.
Remember Mrs. Phillips ... taught English, I think it was. She lived in
same neighborhood as some of my friends ... Vineville/Park Avenue
area. I remember those kids telling me at the time that she had a son
who was a lot older than us ... and that he was real bad and a biker
and such. And his name was Tuffy. A few years later I connected that
to the ABB. Small town in a small world.
Did you take shop? Mr. Haynes was absolutely the most ill-dispositioned
man to ever swing a paddle. He would literally teach you how to build a
paddle and then whip your ass with the finished product.

 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 08:26 PM
My mother was pregnant with me when that tragety happened. I heard a lot about how shocked and sad our country was.

I remember when Reagan got shot. I was at high school baseball practice in the gym because of bad weather and our coach came out of the office and he was visibly shaken up. Wiping tears away, he told us that the president had been shot and to go home and say a prayer.

He later told us that he was getting flashbacks from when President Kennedy was shot and killed. When someone attacks your leader it feels like they have attacked you almost personally.

 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 08:29 PM
Didn't take shop, I was on the cross country track team.
But I do know who Mr. Phillips was.
Remember Ms. Owenby?

The riot never was because it wasn't going to happen. A couple of guys got into an argument, they said a bunch of crap-not meaning any of it-and it grew from there.
Somebody at the police station got word of it, blew it out of proportion, white kid-black kid having a fight, and got the word out they would be there in force to stop any "hostilities".

It was just gonna be two guys fighting out a disagreement behind the Kroger, and MPD blew it out of proportion, down to searching the classrooms for "illegal weapons".
I think you and I both knew the guys that wanted to fight.

You got your issue of Saber & Sashes 1969 available?

 

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  posted on 11/23/2008 at 09:02 PM
Hey Jerry ... check your PM's
 

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  posted on 11/24/2008 at 12:36 PM
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Thanks for that....

The first tragic event of my childhood memory was the day President Kennedy was killed...
Same here. I was in school at the time - had just moved to Iowa from Kansas and was fairly new to everything. I will never forget the tears that streamed down my teachers face as she re-entered the room to inform us of what had happened. We were immediately dismissed from school and quietly packed up our books and boarded the bus home. The next few days I was transfixed by those visions on TV - the chaos in the limo; the bloody, pink suit; the long walk behind the riderless horse and caisson; the salute of a toddler saying goodbye to his father; the little girl holding her mother's hand and saying goodbye, also; the black veil covering a young wifes grief; the flame that burns eternal. All very powerful images that weighed heavy for many (including a young Iowa school girl).

 

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  posted on 11/24/2008 at 12:58 PM
Parochial Grammar School - NYC. Announcement over the loud speaker and then we were dismissed.

I agree with Stick T's quote above.

IMHO - JFK had great courage. He acted to right wrongs. He, like the rest of us, was far from perfect, made mistakes, but I believe our country was all the poorer for losing him and then Bobby after him.

 

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