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  posted on 11/19/2008 at 12:42 PM
I didn't cut my backyard grass for a few months three years ago. By the time I was forced to cut it, two trees had begun to grow. Now they are full grown. If people living in cities were allowed to let their yards grow, in ten years our cities would be like forests with streets and buildings. Cooler, more inviting and the bird population would grow. We'd feel closer to nature where we live. It isn't fair for the local gov't to tell me what to do in my own yard.
 
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  posted on 11/19/2008 at 12:44 PM
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I didn't cut my backyard grass for a few months three years ago. By the time I was forced to cut it, two trees had begun to grow. Now they are full grown. If people living in cities were allowed to let their yards grow, in ten years our cities would be like forests with streets and buildings. Cooler, more inviting and the bird population would grow. We'd feel closer to nature where we live. It isn't fair for the local gov't to tell me what to do in my own yard.


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I didn't cut my backyard grass for a few months three years ago. By the time I was forced to cut it, two trees had begun to grow. Now they are full grown. If people living in cities were allowed to let their yards grow, in ten years our cities would be like forests with streets and buildings. Cooler, more inviting and the bird population would grow. We'd feel closer to nature where we live. It isn't fair for the local gov't to tell me what to do in my own yard.


Watch out for the deer in your diveway !!!


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I didn't cut my backyard grass for a few months three years ago. By the time I was forced to cut it, two trees had begun to grow. Now they are full grown. If people living in cities were allowed to let their yards grow, in ten years our cities would be like forests with streets and buildings. Cooler, more inviting and the bird population would grow. We'd feel closer to nature where we live. It isn't fair for the local gov't to tell me what to do in my own yard.


We have 6 mulberry trees that were planted by birds dropping the seeds. I love them, and now more birds come, and drop more seeds. They grow up right out of the middle of the hedge row that borders our property. People have asked why we keep them - they ruin the line of our hedges. We get more shade and more birds. Nature planted them, who am I to cut them down?

 

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  posted on 11/19/2008 at 12:57 PM
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I didn't cut my backyard grass for a few months three years ago. By the time I was forced to cut it, two trees had begun to grow. Now they are full grown. If people living in cities were allowed to let their yards grow, in ten years our cities would be like forests with streets and buildings. Cooler, more inviting and the bird population would grow. We'd feel closer to nature where we live. It isn't fair for the local gov't to tell me what to do in my own yard.
I live in town (population 300,000+) ... just a few minutes from main downtown area. I cut my grass once a week and have a constant parade of deer, rabbits, squirrels, squinty's, birds, fox, groundhogs, raccoons, possums, etc wandering through my yard (I think one of those coons has taken up residence in my garage, in fact). And chickens when the lady across the street is letting her pets roam free ( I'm just hoping that the folks down the street continue to maintain their fences and keep their shetland ponies and llamas contained). I feel very close to nature when I'm outside in my yard.

 

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  posted on 11/19/2008 at 01:52 PM
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Watch out for the deer in your diveway !!!
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I wish there were some.




Where are you that you don't have any deer?


Yuppies and socialists, please move to the cities. Thanks.

As for getting closer to nature, yes, you are missing out on cool stuff, such as seeing a Largemouth bass explode on a baby robin who is learning to fly and inadvertently hits the water, or a baby rabbit in distress being thrown into the air by a couple of coyotes before being ripped to shreds, or mortal enemies the owl and the wild turkey attacking each other along a winter wheat patch, or a four-year old buck taking a double-lung broadhead under an acorn tree, or a mink using its two front fangs to puncture the neck of a grouse and sucking all of its blood out, and a lot more. And, as for the urban bird population growing, yes, I'm all for introducing more falcons and hawks to blast the pigeons out of the sky and giving downtown an occasional rain of feathers and red mist.


As for letting weeds run rampant to 'get closer to nature,' I'd rather see urban farming and gardening going on. www.urbanfarming.org, www.cityfarmer.org, www.urbanagriculture-news.com, www.verticalfarm.com.


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[Edited on 11/19/2008 by DerekFromCincinnati]

 

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  posted on 11/19/2008 at 02:09 PM
Here is a cool picture from New York City;





http://yojimbot.blogspot.com/

[Edited on 11/19/2008 by DerekFromCincinnati]

 

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  posted on 11/19/2008 at 02:13 PM
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Here is a cool picture from New York City;





http://yojimbot.blogspot.com/

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That...made me laugh. I'm not really sure why.

 

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Where are you that you don't have any deer?


Yuppies and socialists, please move to the cities. Thanks.

As for getting closer to nature, yes, you are missing out on cool stuff, such as seeing a Largemouth bass explode on a baby robin who is learning to fly and inadvertently hits the water, or a baby rabbit in distress being thrown into the air by a couple of coyotes before being ripped to shreds, or mortal enemies the owl and the wild turkey attacking each other along a winter wheat patch, or a four-year old buck taking a double-lung broadhead under an acorn tree, or a mink using its two front fangs to puncture the neck of a grouse and sucking all of its blood out, and a lot more. And, as for the urban bird population growing, yes, I'm all for introducing more falcons and hawks to blast the pigeons out of the sky and giving downtown an occasional rain of feathers and red mist.


As for letting weeds run rampant to 'get closer to nature,' I'd rather see urban farming and gardening going on. www.urbanfarming.org, www.cityfarmer.org, www.urbanagriculture-news.com, www.verticalfarm.com.


DH

[Edited on 11/19/2008 by DerekFromCincinnati]


DFC, no wonder you're so uptight. You even find fault with Nature!
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  posted on 11/19/2008 at 02:28 PM
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(I think one of those coons has taken up residence in my garage, in fact).




 

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I didn't cut my backyard grass for a few months three years ago. By the time I was forced to cut it, two trees had begun to grow. Now they are full grown. If people living in cities were allowed to let their yards grow, in ten years our cities would be like forests with streets and buildings. Cooler, more inviting and the bird population would grow. We'd feel closer to nature where we live. It isn't fair for the local gov't to tell me what to do in my own yard.


Watch out for the deer in your diveway !!!


I wish there were some.


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I didn't cut my backyard grass for a few months three years ago. By the time I was forced to cut it, two trees had begun to grow. Now they are full grown. If people living in cities were allowed to let their yards grow, in ten years our cities would be like forests with streets and buildings. Cooler, more inviting and the bird population would grow. We'd feel closer to nature where we live. It isn't fair for the local gov't to tell me what to do in my own yard.


So basically - we should lower our property values so we can eat and rub on nature.


If everyone did it, which was my point, it wouldn't effect property values.

 

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  posted on 11/19/2008 at 02:49 PM
The city of Detroit is rapidly reforesting as there are acres of neighborhoods there which have long been abandoned. There's also talk of finally returning some of it to farming as well though no one there knows how.
I guess fifty years of democrat rule can have SOME positive impact.

 

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  posted on 11/19/2008 at 03:26 PM
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I didn't cut my backyard grass for a few months three years ago. By the time I was forced to cut it, two trees had begun to grow. Now they are full grown. If people living in cities were allowed to let their yards grow, in ten years our cities would be like forests with streets and buildings. Cooler, more inviting and the bird population would grow. We'd feel closer to nature where we live. It isn't fair for the local gov't to tell me what to do in my own yard.


I'm with you mostly on this, as my lawn has shrunk as the trees around have matured. In its place, I've installed shrubs and pinestraw. Less mowing, less water intensive, more attractive (to me). I've seen some beautiful turf-less yards.

Nevertheless, simply not mowing extant lawn is not being a good neighbor. You could hasten nature's return with a little work. I doubt unkempt turf grass will ever look as good as the great plains. Most zoning laws have alot to do with aesthetics, and they have usually been upheld by the courts.


 

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  posted on 11/19/2008 at 03:40 PM
Wasn't it Bloomberg's idea to plant a million trees in NYC?

Suburbian sprawl where developers clear cut acres to build houses, then plant a few saplings should be banned in every community. A developer should be required to keep every tree except those necessary to build the house. First of all, it's ugly. Second, it's unnecessary and third we could use the trees.

I saw a "thing" about rooftop gardens helping with greenhouse gases, keeping buildings cooler in the summer and warmer in the winter, being better for the building than conventional roofing products (don't need to be reroofed every 20 years) and providing a nice retreat for occupants of the building. Seems like a logical way to go in the city eh?

 

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  posted on 11/19/2008 at 04:08 PM
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DFC, no wonder you're so uptight. You even find fault with Nature!
"Man's heart away from nature becomes hard" Standing Bear


Lespaul58, what in THEE hell are you talking about? I'm on nature's side. Standing Bear is right. What does that have to do with you?? Your idea of planting trees is to let the grass grow as high as it can thereby smothering the tree saplings that managed to hit the ground??? A nature lover, I see.


Why would I have fault with nature when nature is not socialist. Survival of the fittest, innovation brings forth advantage, and baby rabbits get ripped to shreds to boot. What more can you ask for, man??

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  posted on 11/19/2008 at 04:57 PM
I'm still kinda troubled as to why I laughed at that picture...

 

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DFC, no wonder you're so uptight. You even find fault with Nature!
"Man's heart away from nature becomes hard" Standing Bear


Lespaul58, what in THEE hell are you talking about? I'm on nature's side. Standing Bear is right. What does that have to do with you?? Your idea of planting trees is to let the grass grow as high as it can thereby smothering the tree saplings that managed to hit the ground??? A nature lover, I see.


Why would I have fault with nature when nature is not socialist. Survival of the fittest, innovation brings forth advantage, and baby rabbits get ripped to shreds to boot. What more can you ask for, man??

[Edited on 11/19/2008 by DerekFromCincinnati]


My experience has been that when I don't cut the grass, trees and plants appear. Some would call them weeds, but that's just a value judgement. It's best to let nature take it's course. Lawns were first created so the rich could show off how much land they could afford to waste. It confounds me that to most people Dandelions are a blight on their yard.

 

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  posted on 11/19/2008 at 05:34 PM
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Lawns were first created so the rich could show off how much land they could afford to waste
I think they were used more for grazing originally. Most people in the city don't have the type of animals that graze (like I said - there is one place down the road from me that has Shetlands and Llamas that help with the mowing at their place). Personally, I do not want an unkempt lawn next to me. I had neighbors for awhile who weren't into mowing and their wild yard became a garbage receptacle...not so nice to live next to. Lespaul - have you ever thought about moving out to the country where you could do your own lawn thing without affecting appraisals on your neighbors places? (re: dandelions ... the greens are great in salad or sauted with olive oil and garlic. )

 

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  posted on 11/19/2008 at 06:19 PM
People belong in cities. My back yard is privicy fenced. No one can see in it. It is wild and beautiful. The birds like it.
 

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  posted on 11/19/2008 at 06:46 PM
I'm the only tree hugging home builder that I know of. When I built our house 5 years ago I left most of the lot natural. It's filled with pines, maples, poplars, bays and oaks. I love it with all the greenery and blue sky above, heaven on earth. I have supreme privacy with water on one side and woods and wetlands in the back.

Plant more trees, plant more trees!!!

 

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  posted on 11/19/2008 at 06:54 PM
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People belong in cities. My back yard is privicy fenced. No one can see in it. It is wild and beautiful. The birds like it.
If you have a privacy fence around your place I don't see how it should be anybodies business what you do with your yard. I guess I'm pretty lucky. I live in an old neighborhood with a lot of old growth trees so my yard and neighboring ones provide a lot of natural environment for wildlife. But I do keep my unprivacy-fenced yard mowed.

 

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