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Sarah Palin's attacks on Barack Obama's patriotism provoked a spike in death threats against the future president, Secret Service agents revealed during the final weeks of the campaign.
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The Republican vice presidential candidate attracted criticism for accusing Mr Obama of "palling around with terrorists", citing his association with the sixties radical William Ayers.

The attacks provoked a near lynch mob atmosphere at her rallies, with supporters yelling "terrorist" and "kill him" until the McCain campaign ordered her to tone down the rhetoric.

But it has now emerged that her demagogic tone may have unintentionally encouraged white supremacists to go even further.

The Secret Service warned the Obama family in mid October that they had seen a dramatic increase in the number of threats against the Democratic candidate, coinciding with Mrs Palin's attacks.

Michelle Obama, the future First Lady, was so upset that she turned to her friend and campaign adviser Valerie Jarrett and said: "Why would they try to make people hate us?"

The revelations, contained in a Newsweek history of the campaign, are likely to further damage Mrs Palin's credentials as a future presidential candidate. She is already a frontrunner, with Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, to take on Mr Obama in four years time.

Details of the spike in threats to Mr Obama come as a report last week by security and intelligence analysts Stratfor, warned that he is a high risk target for racist gunmen. It concluded: "Two plots to assassinate Obama were broken up during the campaign season, and several more remain under investigation. We would expect federal authorities to uncover many more plots to attack the president that have been hatched by white supremacist ideologues."

Irate John McCain aides, who blame Mrs Palin for losing the election, claim Mrs Palin took it upon herself to question Mr Obama's patriotism, before the line of attack had been cleared by Mr McCain.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/sarahpalin/340533 6/Sarah-Palin-blamed-by-the-US-Secret-Service-for-death-threats-against-Bar ack-Obama.html

 

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  posted on 11/10/2008 at 05:56 PM
I'm sure she won't accept any responsibility for this, just like every other Republican who held a position of power over the last 8 years.

 

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  posted on 11/10/2008 at 06:14 PM
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I'm sure she won't accept any responsibility for this, just like every other Republican who held a position of power over the last 8 years.


bigann posted a question about this-if Obama were shot, would Palin be guilty of a hate crime? Be pretty hard to prove in a court of law, but food for thought....

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  posted on 11/10/2008 at 06:23 PM
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We would expect federal authorities to uncover many more plots to attack the president that have been hatched by white supremacist ideologues."
I don't see how Palin or McCain or the GOP can be held accountable for the actions of any white supremacist group. The fact of the matter is that members of these types of hate groups are working with their own agenda's that have little or nothing at the core that most reasonable people would want to embrace. Palin could have said 'Obama says the sky is green' or any type of nonsense and people in this type of radical hate group would sieze it, turn it inside out, and use it to whatever advantage they could. I voted for Obama but I would not accuse any of the McCain or Palin supporters I've encountered on this site, within my own family, or elsewhere of condoning hate crimes perpetuated by a bunch of skinhead radicals.

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Speaking as she returned to her native Alaska, Mrs Palin claimed to be baffled by what she claims was sexism on the national stage. "Here in Alaska that double standard isn't applied because these guys know that Alaskan women are pretty tough, on a par with the men in terms of being outdoors, working hard," she said
As a woman who doesn't live in Alaska I find this kind of insulting. I don't feel that there were sexism issues so much as issues of her competence in people's minds.

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  posted on 11/10/2008 at 06:58 PM
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Jesus, y'all. A silly British newspaper?

So from now on, anybody who gets murdered - it's Palin's fault?

Unreal.


If this is all you got from the article I would suggest reading lessons. Also anyone who was at all intellectually curious would read the international press. Did you know that 61% of Telegraph readers support the conservative party? Do you think conservativism is silly? You did vote for a conservative did you not?

 

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  posted on 11/10/2008 at 06:59 PM
The election's over, give it a rest. Your guy won

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Don't you think "pallin' around with terrorists" is somewhat incendiary after all we've heard fof the past years is "terrorists, terroriststs, terrorists"? She is a hate monger on the level of George Wallace and a lier. I wish Obama would have her prosecuted for hate speech. She has endangered his life with her ignorant rants.
 

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  posted on 11/10/2008 at 07:54 PM
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I'm sure she won't accept any responsibility for this, just like every other Republican who held a position of power over the last 8 years.


bigann posted a question about this-if Obama were shot, would Palin be guilty of a hate crime? Be pretty hard to prove in a court of law, but food for thought....

Good to see ya, Pete.


The comparison I used on this is that if Palin is responsible for an attack on Obama, then the Beatles may be held responsible for Charles Manson. Twisting someones words to fit your own personal agenda doesn't make the person who said those words guilty of anything.





I think it is more like that preacher saying it is not a sin to murder abortionists.

not his fault his followers did it.



 

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  posted on 11/10/2008 at 08:01 PM
I don't think at this point Palin should be held accountable for anything the white supremecists do, however during the election, her inflamatory talk bordered on hate speech and had something happend to Obama, I really do think she would have had a degree of responsibility. Whether or not it was actionable in a court of law remains to be seen. You can't yell fire in a crowded room....and when people start yelling 'kill him' at your rallies and you don't stop them, then you're responsible to a degree for what you've started.

There are a lot of very angry people in this country still looking for a reason to kill Obama. Thank God they didn't succeed during the campaign when Palin's speeches empowered them to act. But, as I said, at this point, I think she's off the hook.

 

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  posted on 11/10/2008 at 08:05 PM
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Don't you think "pallin' around with terrorists" is somewhat incendiary after all we've heard fof the past years is "terrorists, terroriststs, terrorists"? She is a hate monger on the level of George Wallace and a lier. I wish Obama would have her prosecuted for hate speech. She has endangered his life with her ignorant rants.
You forgot, "he's a socialist!, AND NOT A TRUE AMERICAN LIKE YOU AND ME". I HOPE THE NEXT TIME I HEAR ABOUT THAT DUMB AND DANGEROUS BITCH, SHE IS ON HER WAY TO FEDERAL PRISON.

 

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Don't you think "pallin' around with terrorists" is somewhat incendiary after all we've heard fof the past years is "terrorists, terroriststs, terrorists"? She is a hate monger on the level of George Wallace and a lier. I wish Obama would have her prosecuted for hate speech. She has endangered his life with her ignorant rants.
You forgot, "he's a socialist!, AND NOT A TRUE AMERICAN LIKE YOU AND ME". I HOPE THE NEXT TIME I HEAR ABOUT THAT DUMB AND DANGEROUS BITCH, SHE IS ON HER WAY TO FEDERAL PRISON.


I don't like her either, but this seems just a TAD extreme to me...

 

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  posted on 11/10/2008 at 08:28 PM
Come on already. Let's give it a rest. Both sides. The election is over and Palin is back in ALaska.

 

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  posted on 11/10/2008 at 08:31 PM
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Come on already. Let's give it a rest. Both sides. The election is over and Palin is back in ALaska.


she'll be back, with her AK47 and bikini!

 

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  posted on 11/10/2008 at 09:07 PM
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Come on already. Let's give it a rest. Both sides. The election is over and Palin is back in ALaska.


She may be back in Alaska (after all, she is still Gov), but she's not going away anytime soon. She was interviewed on CNN tonight (they only showed part of the interview as they drag it out in the interest of promotion and ratings) and she'll be on the Today show with Matt Lauer tomorrow. For all intents and purposes, she is already campaigning for 2012.

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I wish we could give it a rest....I'm tired of her already....but as long as she's in the spotlight, she'll be fair game for conversation.

 

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I'm sure she won't accept any responsibility for this, just like every other Republican who held a position of power over the last 8 years.
This issue is beyond asinine. Of course, she isn't responsible. It's the blockheads making the threats who are responsible.

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This issue is beyond asinine. Of course, she isn't responsible. It's the blockheads making the threats who are responsible.

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I think it really shows you just what type of person she appealed to.

 

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  posted on 11/10/2008 at 10:24 PM
Palin will also be on Larry King on Wed. Until the Sen Ted Stevens votes are tallied, then possibly be removed by the Senate, I'm not convinced Palin is not still a worthy topic. If you don't want to discuss her, start another thread. Hopefully the new thread won't be Youtubes re the new world order though.
 

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I guess this means then that Martin Scorcese and Robert De Niro are responsible for the assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan in 1981, right. Since the movie was the impetus for the assassin, ergo......

 

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  posted on 11/11/2008 at 12:17 AM
That's like saying Hitler's speeches were not responsible for the Holocaust. An extreme example but valid IMO.
 

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Jesus, y'all. A silly British newspaper?

So from now on, anybody who gets murdered - it's Palin's fault?

Unreal.


If this is all you got from the article I would suggest reading lessons. Also anyone who was at all intellectually curious would read the international press. Did you know that 61% of Telegraph readers support the conservative party? Do you think conservativism is silly? You did vote for a conservative did you not?


I voted for Bob Barr. Hope that helps.

As stated in several cases above, it's pretty ludicrous to blame assassination attempts on Palin. Frankly, the next time I hear her voice would probably be too soon, but blaming things like this on her is absurd.

Ya - sue her. That's just what this country needs - more and more lawsuits.....


You voted for a conservative who now calls himself something else. Kind of like Halloween.

Palinís speeches were inflammatory and she triggered violent outbursts from the crowd. She went way over the line. She is now in Miami beginning the play for 2012 and control of the Republican party. That is why she remains significant. There is a big sector of republicans who want to discredit her.

This is not going to court. But you might take note of all the republican paid lawyers who were ready to head to court if Georgia got close. You seem to think lawyering is the monopoly of democrats.

 

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Don't you think "pallin' around with terrorists" is somewhat incendiary after all we've heard fof the past years is "terrorists, terroriststs, terrorists"? She is a hate monger on the level of George Wallace and a lier. I wish Obama would have her prosecuted for hate speech. She has endangered his life with her ignorant rants.
You forgot, "he's a socialist!, AND NOT A TRUE AMERICAN LIKE YOU AND ME". I HOPE THE NEXT TIME I HEAR ABOUT THAT DUMB AND DANGEROUS BITCH, SHE IS ON HER WAY TO FEDERAL PRISON.


I don't like her either, but this seems just a TAD extreme to me...


OK.

County jail?

 

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  posted on 11/11/2008 at 08:59 AM
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Don't you think "pallin' around with terrorists" is somewhat incendiary after all we've heard fof the past years is "terrorists, terroriststs, terrorists"? She is a hate monger on the level of George Wallace and a lier. I wish Obama would have her prosecuted for hate speech. She has endangered his life with her ignorant rants.


hmmm prosecuted for hate speech.... next we will have cops on the playgrounds at school busting lil kids for hate speech ....sure was lots of that when i went there... and what ever happen that one called "freedom of speech". sometimes it may even hurt. but they have the right as we have the right, cant have one without the other, or we would not truly be free now wood we!... "to heal we must move on" told by a US veteran to a Japanese Veteran at the pearl harbor memorial........

 

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  posted on 11/11/2008 at 09:09 AM
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I'm sure she won't accept any responsibility for this, just like every other Republican who held a position of power over the last 8 years.


Sure, she should just acknowledge anything printed by the Telegraph UK as gospel.

She allegedly questioned BarryO's patriotism and that CAUSED a spike in threats? Where's the proof. Show me the links.

I question BarryO's patriotism all the time and the only threats doled out are from our left-of-center friends - towards me.

 

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